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You just don't get it. Do you really believe these people did the posh person equivalent of hiring a motel room or massage parlour for bog standard common or garden variety prostitution?
Think about it it. What was the need for remote islands, ranches in semi-arrid desert and 42 roomed-mansions? |
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Not it is not. Ba'al was worshipped all over the Levant. Canaan was a part of the Middle Egyptian Dynasty about 1000BC.
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Middle-aged/elderly man wants sex orgies with young teenage girls. So where would he find that then even if he was filthy rich?
My close relatives have an island. It's not difficult. You wait for one to come up for sale. How to get round it? You design a secret, exclusive fraternity and throw in a few cult themes so that people feel loyal and loathe to betray it. |
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I'm pretty sure everybody gets it.
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Apparently, hiring folks to do some good old human trafficking. A more practical way to get slaves than sacrificing a goat and hoping for the best.
By your logic, that's evidence of satanism... Pure speculation. And in stead of providing evidence, you come up with an endless string of unconnected falsehoods and hope we somehow don't notice you're spewing ********? |
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Anthroposophy; Rosicrucianism; Gurdjieff and Ouspensky' "the way;" Swedenborg; Annie Besant's theosophy. That's some of the more or less Christian ones off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others that are not, in some fundamental way, Judaeo-Christian, and thus have no relation to Satan at all. That is, of course, disregarding the opponents who simply call them Satanists because they don't agree or because they are sloppy with their terminology. And of course it depends on how you define occultism or mysticism, or redefine your way out of it. Some people would throw Mormons into the mix too, but there's a fair amount of stuff in it without them.
But in any case, since you said to name only one, I will put forward Anthroposophy as a best example: a philosophy (sort of) that is openly mystical and occult, and quite explicitly Christian, even to the extent of including its own Christian sect. |
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Rosicrucians are not Christian, even though they invented a character called Christian Rosenkreutz. When they refer to Christian values they are referring to their self-referring character. Gurdjieff was a sufi master (Islam). Peter Ouspensky was his pupil and was interested in mysical aspect such as the Fourth Way. I have read all of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky and can confirm they have nothing to do with Christianity. Swedenborg like the Madame Blavatsky Theosopists was eclectic and into flying, ESP and auras, not to mention communicating with the dear departed. A far cry from Christianity.
Re Judaism, there are some who believe the Kabbalah is dangerous mysticism. I'm guessing the Anthroposophy sect are Gnostics. Would I be right? Just a version of 'Know Thyself' and frowned upon by mainstream Christians as being navel-gazing and 'eastern' when they should be outward looking. |
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As we can clearly see in this thread.
I can say it is rubbish because I have studied ouija in depth. There is NOTHING supernatural about it. Bwahahaha. "psychic fight". Oh brother. Some people are taken in by such rubbish with harmful results. That is nothing new. One cannot legislate for the gullibility of some people. If they were dumb enough to believe in "spiritual protection" then more fool them. "Spiritual protection" is as useful as a chocolate crash helmet. False. Epstein was convicted. He was about to be tried again, but he killed himself before that could happen. |
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What do peeps think of this?
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As I said: Certainly nobody has ever been prosecuted for what is clearly an international sex ring involving prominent figures, apart from a nominal 13-month sentence for procuring a prostitute (note, not 'sex trafficking', which specifies underage girls, a much more serious offence) of which Epstein was given huge amounts of day release which he spent at his office on a Caribbean Island. |
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So those of you who were sceptical there was a submarine station at Little St James' have a look at this: Dr Stephen Hawking scooting around the seabed in a submarine at...Little St James'..
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The photo of Stephen Hawkings comes from an article in the DAILY TELEGRAPH as long ago as 2015.
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The question is not whether they fit your definition of Christianity, or what you think they should or should not do, but whether they are, as you so casually lump them, Satanists. I think most of them are crackpots (though mostly harmless ones), but I also do not think that makes them Satanists. There is a considerable resemblance of Anthroposophy to Gnosticism, though they adamantly reject the notion, and experts on Gnosticism consider it morre a resemblance than substance (now is not the time to get into Gnosticism, I think) but they certainly claim to be Christian, whatever you may think about them, and they most certainly do not worship Satan.
I should point out that I did not include Blavatsky, but her follower Annie Besant, who explicitly claimed (whatever you may think) that Christianity fit with her ideas. Whatever qualifications you apply to count someone as Christian, failure to qualify does not automatically make you a Satanist any more than failure to be a Muslim makes everyone else a Jew. |
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And that has what to do with my response to the post you made?
Child sex tourism is a thing, and not particularly expensive. The rich, like Epstein don't need it, but lots of middle-class men take part. You don't need a private island. Just an airline ticket to Thailand or Brazil. It's not Satanic, just evil. |
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Gosh, if The Sun said it then it must be true.
Problem however is that Mossad doesn't hire Satanists or suspected Satanists. |
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$89 for adults, $49 for kids. You can read about this sub here:
http://www.island.redheadhenry.com/submarine.html Looks like fun but it's not the Red October. |
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You write so much yet know nothing about the real world of sex trafficking.
Prince bin Salman was in Los Angeles in 2018. He rented out the entire hotel. I don't think his entourage played X-Box all night while they were there. There are people who cater to folks like Saudi Princes in LA and other prime destination cities including London where any sexual whim can be accommodated for those willing to pay. This is not a secret. However, proving this activity in a court of law can be daunting to American law enforcement operating in big cities where politics can be a distraction or obstruction depending on the target of a Vice sting. The funding of Al Qaeda by some Saudis comes to mind as an example of how hard it is to reach out and touch some people. And then there is the issue of drugs and drug addiction and the fact is that there are very beautiful women would would do all kinds on naughty thing with a middle-aged ape like me if I had a deep supply of cocaine or opioids. This is also not a secret either and next time you're in Beverly Hills you can use this knowledge to play a fun version of Bingo while sitting in a coffee shop. |
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