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Old Yesterday, 06:23 AM   #1
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I don't want to EVER hear someone call Twitter "too liberal" again...

I was banned for calling for the death penalty (mandated IN the Constitution) for Donald Trump, presumably after he would be convicted by an impartial court for his Treason.

Funny how that works when I report dozens of Trump supporters talking about violence against "liberals", "Democrats", etc on a regular basis, and am told their posts don't violate ToS, isn't it?

Twitter is in the tank for Trump.
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See you even got a second opinion.
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How does this violate TOS?
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Hi, it's Thermal! Can OP come out and play?

Seriously dude, calling for the execution of a sitting President that has not been charged, let alone convicted, it a tad off the rails. Twitts aren't in the tank for Trump. They are not crazy about mouth-foamers of any stripes.

It's obsessive to be thinking this way. I've got some neighbors I really hate, if you want to get some aggressions out in a more healthy fashion.
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I enjoy poisoning my brain on twitter as much as the next guy, but this is some advanced brain rot.

People on Twitter calling for public executions need to take a breather.
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Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive View Post
I was banned for calling for the death penalty (mandated IN the Constitution) for Donald Trump, presumably after he would be convicted by an impartial court for his Treason.
That's a nice weasel words you snuck in there.

Even if the events in the OP actually happened and aren't just outrage porn fantasizing, why does even the version you're telling us sound an awful lot like you just posted "dA pResIdENT nEEds to bE ExEcuTed!" with no context on Twitter and are now mad that you got your pee-pee smacked over it?
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It's possible Twitter acts to further its own business rather than follow a political party line. Trump is one of Twitter's most prominent users. He drives a lot of use of the product and attracts a lot of attention. Twitter has been in the news near daily since the election. Regardless of politics Trump has definitely been good for Twitter.
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A few things. Twitter is a bit in Trump's pocket, and it's pretty easy to see. Trump repeatedly violates Twitters ToS that would get someone else suspended. Secondly, saying you want someone to get the death penalty is about the only thing you can't say on twitter. Most every banning or removal I've seen involves someone wanting someone else dead.
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Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive View Post
I was banned for calling for the death penalty (mandated IN the Constitution) for Donald Trump, presumably after he would be convicted by an impartial court for his Treason.

Funny how that works when I report dozens of Trump supporters talking about violence against "liberals", "Democrats", etc on a regular basis, and am told their posts don't violate ToS, isn't it?

Twitter is in the tank for Trump.
I'm curious to see the actual tweet verses your characterization.
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I enjoy poisoning my brain on twitter as much as the next guy, but this is some advanced brain rot.

People on Twitter calling for public executions need to take a breather.
Didn't say public
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How does this violate TOS?
Allegedly it's "harassment", which they define as "wishing harm on any person"...

It's complete bull of course. I've repoted people for posting memes about shooting VA national guard members if the governor tries to implement gun legislation and was told that was NOT a violation (just one example).

It's only anti-GOP people who are getting this treatment.
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
Didn't say public
Oh, private executions, then. That's better.
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A few things. Twitter is a bit in Trump's pocket, and it's pretty easy to see. Trump repeatedly violates Twitters ToS that would get someone else suspended. Secondly, saying you want someone to get the death penalty is about the only thing you can't say on twitter. Most every banning or removal I've seen involves someone wanting someone else dead.
Except twitter is headquartered in a country with the death penalty. This is calling for the legal remedy for the suspected crime that just so happens to be the death penalty.
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The target of harassment needs to be a specific person.
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Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive View Post
Allegedly it's "harassment", which they define as "wishing harm on any person"...

It's complete bull of course. I've repoted people for posting memes about shooting VA national guard members if the governor tries to implement gun legislation and was told that was NOT a violation (just one example).

It's only anti-GOP people who are getting this treatment.
When you find yourself sitting on twitter keeping track of whether or not each side gets the same number of smacks on the wrist for putting their hand in the cookie jar you really need to take a deep breath and look back on all the choices you've made in life that lead you to that point.

Go outside.
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
Hi, it's Thermal! Can OP come out and play?

Seriously dude, calling for the execution of a sitting President that has not been charged, let alone convicted, it a tad off the rails.
The tweet I was replying to made it clear that there would be a trial, and he would be convicted at that point.

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Twitts aren't in the tank for Trump. They are not crazy about mouth-foamers of any stripes.
Given the number of truly abusive tweets about along the lines of "try to confiscate our guns and we'll KILL you", etc I've reported over the last few years I dispute your assessment.

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It's obsessive to be thinking this way.
Real Americans don't like Treason. It's not obsessive to want to see them punished as the law provides.
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When you find yourself sitting on twitter keeping track of whether or not each side gets the same number of smacks on the wrist for putting their hand in the cookie jar you really need to take a deep breath and look back on all the choices you've made in life that lead you to that point.

Go outside.
So it's "putting your hand in the cookie jar" to call for a criminal to be convicted and punished as the law provides.

And pointing out disproportionate enforcement of the rules calls Twitter's objectivity into question. It is operating as an arm of the ongoing Russian/GOP effort to corrupt and control America.
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Oh, private executions, then. That's better.
By invitation only.
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And BTW OP, I will now be calling Twitter "too liberal" much more often, since you've put the "It's not liberal enough because it won't let me call for the execution of the President on it!" card on the table.
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Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive View Post
The tweet I was replying to made it clear that there would be a trial, and he would be convicted at that point.



Given the number of truly abusive tweets about along the lines of "try to confiscate our guns and we'll KILL you", etc I've reported over the last few years I dispute your assessment.



Real Americans don't like Treason. It's not obsessive to want to see them punished as the law provides.
The law provides capital punishment for those convicted. It is pointless to crow for the appropriate punishment for a crime that has not even been heard or tried yet. You are just advocating killing the President, and no, that is not gonna fly pretty much anywhere.

Conspiracy theorists bunker down like this. It's no bueno, babe. Go surf, or ski, or something you like with other people removed from politics for a bit. Every President even takes some time off to unplug. Do so, please.
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The law provides capital punishment for those convicted. It is pointless to crow for the appropriate punishment for a crime that has not even been heard or tried yet. You are just advocating killing the President, and no, that is not gonna fly pretty much anywhere.
Most things are pointless. But if someone chooses to do something that doesn't have a point, in this case they are calling for the appropriate punishment for the crime they think the person committed. But they are not on the jury, they don't have to provide presumption of innocence.
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I was banned for calling for the death penalty (mandated IN the Constitution) for Donald Trump, presumably after he would be convicted by an impartial court for his Treason.

Funny how that works when I report dozens of Trump supporters talking about violence against "liberals", "Democrats", etc on a regular basis, and am told their posts don't violate ToS, isn't it?

Twitter is in the tank for Trump.
Okay.... no.... you got banned for making a percieved death threat against a standing president, just like you have done here.....
The world does not and is not obligated to operate as you demand. You got banned for making a terroristic threat and you deserved it. Next...
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Okay.... no.... you got banned for making a percieved death threat against a standing president, just like you have done here.....
The world does not and is not obligated to operate as you demand. You got banned for making a terroristic threat and you deserved it. Next...
It is terroristic only if Texas's execution this week was terrorism.
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How does this violate TOS?
What he did, he made a perceptable threat against a standing President, how hard is that? It doesn't matter if you like him or not, what the OP did is illegal. Good luck when the Secret service pays you a visit btw. This is the second time you've done this I'm aware of, Twitter and in another thread in this very forum.
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What he did, he made a perceptable threat against a standing President, how hard is that? It doesn't matter if you like him or not, what the OP did is illegal. Good luck when the Secret service pays you a visit btw. This is the second time you've done this I'm aware of, Twitter and in another thread in this very forum.
It isn't his fault that the legal remedy the state would give for the crime he suspects the president of is death. If the sentence was life in prison, and he called for that, it isn't a perceptible threat that he is going to kidnap and try and hold them in their basement for life.
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Most things are pointless. But if someone chooses to do something that doesn't have a point, in this case they are calling for the appropriate punishment for the crime they think the person committed. But they are not on the jury, they don't have to provide presumption of innocence.
There is no point to the public calling to carry out a sentence for a crime not even heard yet. As in, no logical point. It is just a naked call to kill.

OP, could you post your tweet thingy? Skeptics like evidence to consider and all.
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There is no point to the public calling to carry out a sentence for a crime not even heard yet. As in, no logical point. It is just a naked call to kill.

OP, could you post your tweet thingy? Skeptics like evidence to consider and all.
It is pointing out the appropriate punishment for the suspected crime and expressing preference that a person be appropriately punished for what they believe occurred. There is no extrajudicial implication.


ETA: why discuss the actual tweet when it probably can't live up to the hypothetical? The hypothetical is so interesting.

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Allegedly it's "harassment", which they define as "wishing harm on any person"...

It's complete bull of course. I've repoted people for posting memes about shooting VA national guard members if the governor tries to implement gun legislation and was told that was NOT a violation (just one example).

It's only anti-GOP people who are getting this treatment.
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Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive View Post
The tweet I was replying to made it clear that there would be a trial, and he would be convicted at that point.



Given the number of truly abusive tweets about along the lines of "try to confiscate our guns and we'll KILL you", etc I've reported over the last few years I dispute your assessment.



Real Americans don't like Treason. It's not obsessive to want to see them punished as the law provides.
Or.... YOU don't call the shots in life or define their TOS. You threatened a politician and got banned, suck it up
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"If Donald J. Trump is convicted of Treason while acting as President of the United States, the Death Penalty, as laid out in the Constitution* is an option that should be considered" - Fine.

"da bad orange man needs to die!" and then acting huffy when everyone just doesn't assume you're talking about legal, post trial application of the death penalty is not.


*BTW this is an absolute lie. The Constitution doesn't lay out the death penalty for any crime because... that's not how that works. Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution lays out treason as a crime. US Code Title 18 of Federal Law prescribes death as one possible punishment for treason.
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"If Donald J. Trump is convicted of Treason while acting as President of the United States, the Death Penalty, as laid out in the Constitution* is an option that should be considered" - Fine.

"da bad orange man needs to die!" and then acting huffy when everyone just doesn't assume you're talking about legal, post trial application of the death penalty is not.


*BTW this is an absolute lie. The Constitution doesn't lay out the death penalty for any crime because... that's not how that works. Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution lays out treason as a crime. US Code Title 18 of Federal Law prescribes death as one possible punishment for treason.
How about "Trump committed treason and should be convicted and executed."

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How about you reproduce the tweet here, so we can all judge for ourselves? If you don't want to because you'f fall foul of the forum rules, then perhaps it's worth considering that twitter isn't the problem? Perhaps think twice before calling for the POTUS' execution? Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
How about "Trump committed treason and should be convicted and executed."

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Don't care Bob. Not going down your rabbit hole of "Define exactly how you can say this."
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Don't care Bob. Not going down your rabbit hole of "Define exactly how you can say this."
You are the one who listed two extremes. I'm curious where the line is. I'm guessing you would also hate law classes that do the same thing?
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
How about you reproduce the tweet here, so we can all judge for ourselves? If you don't want to because you'f fall foul of the forum rules, then perhaps it's worth considering that twitter isn't the problem? Perhaps think twice before calling for the POTUS' execution? Just a thought.
Why ruin a great conversation using a model statement perfect for examining the extent one can call for punishment of a crime with something probably so over the top it would render the hypothetical moot?
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When was the last execution for treason against the US? The Rosenbergs? Something in WWII? It's not exactly common.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
When was the last execution for treason against the US? The Rosenbergs? Something in WWII? It's not exactly common.
Against the Federal Government? Been a while.

The Civil War. William Bruce Mumford, tried and hanged for tearing down an American Flag (well a Naval American Ensign, the flag flown from a warship which as specific traditional and legal things about it too complicated to get into here...) during the Union blockage of New Orleans.

Canada's actually executed someone for treason more recently then we have.

The Rosenbergs were convicted and executed for spying, not treason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...#United_States
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