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Old 8th December 2019, 01:41 PM   #161
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8 December 2019 philippeb8: Gibberish about GR in reply to a question about his scenario (why conditions are different)

He has a universe empty except for a star that has plasma and can be spinning. And that is all he says!



A real star in this universe cannot exist with only classical physics. A main sequence star such as the Sun needs nuclear fusion, nuclear fusion needs E=mc^2 from SR ! Neutrons star need more nuclear physics with SR. If this star is a black hole then we have GR!

P.S. One of the first detections of gravitational redshift was by looking at the spectra of a white dwarf star.



A "kappa fudge factor" delusion when he links to Einstein's constant where kappa is a constant introduced to make the Einstein field equation simpler. The Einstein tensor and stress–energy tensor are proportional. We can introduce kappa as the proportionality constant Kappa also has the advantage that if we change the units of the stress–energy tensor, the Einstein field equation does not change.


Firstly the star is a thought experiment, not an experiment proposal.

Secondly Einstein only had to make kappa a variable and not a constant to make General Relativity work at greater scales.
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Old 8th December 2019, 01:59 PM   #162
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I sent countless number of emails to the Perimeter Institute and the Kavli Institute and I never got any answer despite being an honest taxpayer.
8 December 2019 philippeb8: A "countless number of emails" from an internet physics crank are ignored- no surprise there.

Scientists are used to internet physics cranks sending them emails and do not waste their time answering them. As soon as a scientist read his ignorance of basic physics, e.g. that frames of reference are coordinate systems selected by observers, his emails would be marked as junk. It is even possible that a spam filter automatically junked many of his emails.

The Perimeter Institute is not a government institute responsible to by taxpayers. It may have government funding (it was awarded funds in the 2006 Ontario budget) but that does not mean that any taxpayer can annoy them with a "countless number of emails" or expect even a reply to an email.
The Kavli Foundation has multiple Kavli Institutes un the USA. Once again, not government institutes.
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Old 8th December 2019, 02:05 PM   #163
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8 December 2019 philippeb8: A "countless number of emails" from an internet physics crank are ignored- no surprise there.



Scientists are used to internet physics cranks sending them emails and do not waste their time answering them. As soon as a scientist read his ignorance of basic physics, e.g. that frames of reference are coordinate systems selected by observers, his emails would be marked as junk. It is even possible that a spam filter automatically junked many of his emails.



The Perimeter Institute is not a government institute responsible to by taxpayers. It may have government funding (it was awarded funds in the 2006 Ontario budget) but that does not mean that any taxpayer can annoy them with a "countless number of emails" or expect even a reply to an email.

The Kavli Foundation has multiple Kavli Institutes un the USA. Once again, not government institutes.


These institutes aren’t profitable businesses so their salary needs to come from the taxpayers directly or indirectly but not from profit!
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Old 8th December 2019, 02:22 PM   #164
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Thumbs down "Einstein only had to make kappa a variable" delusions about Einstein's constant

Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
Firstly the star is a thought experiment, not an experiment proposal.

Secondly Einstein only had to make kappa a variable and not a constant to make General Relativity work at greater scales.
8 December 2019 philippeb8: Usual ignorance that his vague scenario is a thought experiment.

8 December 2019 philippeb8: "Einstein only had to make kappa a variable" delusions about Einstein's constant!
  1. A delusion that Einstein's constant has to be variable !
    Basic arithmetic: G is s constant, pi is a constant, 4 is a constant, c is a constant. Any combination of them is a constant.
    G, etc. appear in the Einstein equation for the simple reason that GR has to reduce to Newtonian gravitation. Make it variable and GR no longer agrees with Newtonian gravitation !
  2. A "work at greater scales" delusion.
    The empirical evidence is that GR works on all scales from here on Earth (GPS) to the entire universe (lensing and Big Bang).
  3. A delusion that someone who displays ignorance about basic physics can say anything about the complex physics of GR.

8 December 2019 philippeb8: Gibberish about GR in reply to a question about his scenario (why conditions are different)
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Old 8th December 2019, 02:25 PM   #165
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Nothing to do with 8 December 2019 philippeb8: A "countless number of emails" from an internet physics crank are ignored- no surprise there.
Scientists ignore emails from internet cranks.
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Old 8th December 2019, 02:26 PM   #166
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8 December 2019 philippeb8: Usual ignorance that his vague scenario is a thought experiment.



8 December 2019 philippeb8: "Einstein only had to make kappa a variable" delusions about Einstein's constant!
  1. A delusion that Einstein's constant has to be variable !

    Basic arithmetic: G is s constant, pi is a constant, 4 is a constant, c is a constant. Any combination of them is a constant.

    G, etc. appear in the Einstein equation for the simple reason that GR has to reduce to Newtonian gravitation. Make it variable and GR no longer agrees with Newtonian gravitation !
  2. A "work at greater scales" delusion.

    The empirical evidence is that GR works on all scales from here on Earth (GPS) to the entire universe (lensing and Big Bang).
  3. A delusion that someone who displays ignorance about basic physics can say anything about the complex physics of GR.



8 December 2019 philippeb8: Gibberish about GR in reply to a question about his scenario (why conditions are different)


Correction: GR works if you add:
- dark matter
- dark energy
- parallel universes

Anyway you’re just shuffling the cards because it’s obvious you ran out of scientific arguments a long time ago.
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Old 8th December 2019, 02:29 PM   #167
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These institutes aren’t profitable businesses so their salary needs to come from the taxpayers directly or indirectly but not from profit!
Huh?

Let me see if I understand correctly ... if an entity, which has some kind of tax ID, does not make a profit, the salaries of at least some employees must come from taxpayers.

Right! I always knew Uber was grafting on honest, hard-working US taxpayers!
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Old 8th December 2019, 02:31 PM   #168
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Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
Correction: GR works if you add:
- dark matter
- dark energy
- parallel universes

Anyway you’re just shuffling the cards because it’s obvious you ran out of scientific arguments a long time ago.
OTOH, philippeb8 physics works if you have 1 star and fire (and gravitons).
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Old 8th December 2019, 02:38 PM   #169
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... Either way Reality Check knows he’s wrong for sure.
8 December 2019 philippeb8: "Reality Check knows he’s wrong for sure" idiocy when I cited sources that say I am right !
Time dilation was tested by Rossi and Hall (1941) using the already tested parts of SR. Frisch & Smith in 1963 had 58 years of evidence that the parts of SR that they used to calculate muon speeds worked.

You seem determined to show that you are totally ignorant about the 114 year history of SR theory and its empirical evidence ! This is physics that anyone who knows about Google or Wikipedia or textbooks has read.
Tests of special relativity
What is the experimental basis of Special Relativity?
Experimental testing of time dilation
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Old 8th December 2019, 02:46 PM   #170
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8 December 2019 philippeb8: "Reality Check knows he’s wrong for sure" idiocy when I cited sources that say I am right !

Time dilation was tested by Rossi and Hall (1941) using the already tested parts of SR. Frisch & Smith in 1963 had 58 years of evidence that the parts of SR that they used to calculate muon speeds worked.



You seem determined to show that you are totally ignorant about the 114 year history of SR theory and its empirical evidence ! This is physics that anyone who knows about Google or Wikipedia or textbooks has read.

Tests of special relativity

What is the experimental basis of Special Relativity?

Experimental testing of time dilation


- I just proved your Frisch & Smith experiment is nonsense
- Experiments with low velocities don’t count

Reality Check will soon have to either join FT and make profit or stay with GR and lose his job (unless you are retired which would explain you don’t care about the well being of younger generations).
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Thumbs down Some "GR works if you add:" stupidity

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Correction: GR works if you add:
8 December 2019 philippeb8: Some "GR works if you add:" stupidity.
One again abysmal ignorance about what he should know leads to idiotic statements.

The lines of evidence for dark matter include line from Newtonian physics
  • virial theorem applied to galaxy clusters
  • galaxy rotation curves
  • velocity dispersions (the virial theorem again)
  • Structure formation (computer simulations using Newtonian gravity that need dark matter to get the correct results).
A lie that dark energy was added when dark energy is an empirical observation and the simplest solution of a positive cosmological constant has always been part of GR.
A "parallel universes" lie when GR has no such thing.
A "ran out of scientific arguments a long time ago" delusion when I have not even started. There are the 17 accelerator experiments to come. Then SR working in QM to give the one of the most precise match to data!

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Old 8th December 2019, 03:00 PM   #172
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8 December 2019 philippeb8: Some "GR works if you add:" stupidity.

One again abysmal ignorance about what he should know leads to idiotic statements.



The lines of evidence for dark matter include line from Newtonian physics
  • virial theorem applied to galaxy clusters
  • galaxy rotation curves
  • velocity dispersions (the virial theorem again)
  • Structure formation (computer simulations using Newtonian gravity that need dark matter to get the correct results).

A lie that dark energy was added when dark energy is an empirical observation and the simplest solution of a positive cosmological constant has always been part of GR.

A "parallel universes" lie when GR has no such thing.

A "ran out of scientific arguments a long time ago" lie.


Oh yeah I remember on CQ when I said non-baryonic dark matter could technically be infinitely dense at one spot because it doesn’t interact with itself nonsense and the subject got dissolved...

And where dark energy is really coming from to propel entire galaxies? From another parallel universe called Xenon?
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Old 8th December 2019, 03:08 PM   #173
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- I just proved your Frisch & Smith experiment is nonsense
- Experiments with low velocities don’t count
8 December 2019 philippeb8: Resorts to lies about the Frisch & Smith experiment and a low velocity experiments fantasy.
His unsupported and ignorant fantasies about the Frisch & Smith experiment prove nothing.
8 December 2019 philippeb8: "Reality Check knows he’s wrong for sure" idiocy when I cited sources that say I am right!

His FT fantasy has an time dilation equation that is wrong even for low velocities as in the Hafele–Keating experiments and the time dilation applied in the GPS receivers to get more accurate positions.

8 December 2019 philippeb8: What does your "Kinematical Time Dilation" predict for the Hafele–Keating experiments (SR time dilation)?

6 December 2019 philippeb8: What does your "Kinematical Time Dilation" predict for the Frisch-Smith experiment [for time dilation]?
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Oh yeah I remember on CQ when I said non-baryonic dark matter could technically be infinitely dense at one spot because it doesn’t interact with itself nonsense and the subject got dissolved.
It "got dissolved" because 8 December 2019 philippeb8: A "non-baryonic dark matter could technically be infinitely dense at one spot" is a delusion.

Dark matter cannot collapse to be "infinitely dense at one spot" because it does not interact with itself! That means particles in a cloud of dark matter by itself will just pass through each other. Now add the rest of the universe to make a real universe with visible matter . Dark matter will interact gravitationally with that visible matter. That is what the large scale structure of the universe needs dark matter to form as we observe it. When we look at galaxies, this leads to the cuspy halo problem with its possible solutions, including interacting dark matter.

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And where dark energy is really coming from to propel entire galaxies? From another parallel universe called Xenon?
8 December 2019 philippeb8: Total gibberish about dark energy from ssomeone who should know about dark energy.

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8 December 2019 philippeb8: Resorts to lies about the Frisch & Smith experiment and a low velocity experiments fantasy.
His unsupported and ignorant fantasies about the Frisch & Smith experiment prove nothing.
8 December 2019 philippeb8: "Reality Check knows he’s wrong for sure" idiocy when I cited sources that say I am right!

His FT fantasy has an time dilation equation that is wrong even for low velocities as in the Hafele–Keating experiments and the time dilation applied in the GPS receivers to get more accurate positions.

8 December 2019 philippeb8: What does your "Kinematical Time Dilation" predict for the Hafele–Keating experiments (SR time dilation)?

6 December 2019 philippeb8: What does your "Kinematical Time Dilation" predict for the Frisch-Smith experiment [for time dilation]?
The GPS is more than the obscure Hafele Keating Experiment!

In fact:

"It may surprise you, but the GPS system doesn’t actually use Einstein’s field equations."

https://www.mic.com/articles/19755/t...ght#.LFzVSJRzO
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It "got dissolved" because 8 December 2019 philippeb8: A "non-baryonic dark matter could technically be infinitely dense at one spot" is a delusion.

Dark matter cannot collapse to be "infinitely dense at one spot" because it does not interact with itself! That means particles in a cloud of dark matter by itself will just pass through each other. Now add the rest of the universe to make a real universe with visible matter . Dark matter will interact gravitationally with that visible matter. That is what the large scale structure of the universe needs dark matter to form as we observe it. When we look at galaxies, this leads to the cuspy halo problem with its possible solutions, including interacting dark matter.


8 December 2019 philippeb8: Total gibberish about dark energy from ssomeone who should know about dark energy.
Alright you're just turning the knife in the wound and you're embarrassing your astrophysicist compatriots.
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You're doing that right now.
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The GPS is more than the obscure Hafele Keating Experiment!

In fact:

"It may surprise you, but the GPS system doesn’t actually use Einstein’s field equations."

https://www.mic.com/articles/19755/t...ght#.LFzVSJRzO
In fact the precision of the GPS is top secret and classified so I can't talk about whether Reality Check thinks Relativity is really used or not.
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Old 8th December 2019, 04:29 PM   #179
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Reality Check relies on the obscure Hafele Keating Experiment to save 300 years of physics against the exact solution and/or good approximation for:
- perihelion shift
- light bending
- time dilation cancellation altitude
- rotation curve without dark matter
- expansion of the universe without dark energy
- mass of the invisible universe encompassing the visible one
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Thumbs down A "obscure Hafele Keating Experiment" lie and parrots a deluded crank

Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
The GPS is more than the obscure Hafele Keating Experiment! ...
8 December 2019 philippeb8: A "obscure Hafele Keating Experiment" lie and parrots a deluded crank.
The Hafele–Keating experiments are well known to anyone who bothers to learn about SR.

A crank web site is deluded about the GPS system and philippeb8 mindlessly links to them.
"GPS system doesn’t actually use Einstein’s field equations" is actually correct. GPS uses the solutions of the EFE for gravitational time dilation of the atomic clocks compared to ground clocks.

Tom Van Flandern was an anti-mainstream scientist with some strange ideas. A couple were right. His obscure paper that the speed of gravity being >> c was massively wrong as we know today from gravitational waves travelling at c.
Speed of gravity

Van Flandern at least misleads.
Some "To avoid the embarrassment of that complexity ..." ignorance? The SR corrections are done by GPS receivers because they know what satellites are being accessed. Otherwise each satellite would have to communicate with each GPS receivers (just how many mobile phones are there, today?).
He is an astronomer so he must know that the first GPS satellite actually had an adjustable rate for its atomic clock and was sent up synchronized to the ground clocks. They then measured the clock becoming unsynchronized as predicted by GR. That GPS satellite was adjusted fro GR and worked. Since then GPS satellites have been launched with clocks already adjusted for GR which"hides" gravitational time dilation - that is the point of the correction !
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Does not address 8 December 2019 philippeb8: A "non-baryonic dark matter could technically be infinitely dense at one spot" is a delusion.
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A blatant lie about why I cited the well known Hafele Keating experiment

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Reality Check relies on the obscure Hafele Keating Experiment ...
8 December 2019 philippeb8: A blatant lie about why I cited the well known Hafele Keating experiment.
His FT fantasy has a equation that is SR time dilation squared. The fact is that dozens of experiments have measured time dilation and found the SR value. The well known Hafele Keating experiment is one of those experiments.

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The Hafele–Keating experiment was a test of the theory of relativity. In October 1971, Joseph C. Hafele, a physicist, and Richard E. Keating, an astronomer, took four cesium-beam atomic clocks aboard commercial airliners. They flew twice around the world, first eastward, then westward, and compared the clocks against others that remained at the United States Naval Observatory. When reunited, the three sets of clocks were found to disagree with one another, and their differences were consistent with the predictions of special and general relativity.
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In 2010, Chou et al. performed tests in which both gravitational and velocity effects were measured at velocities and gravitational potentials much smaller than those used in the mountain-valley experiments of the 1970s. It was possible to confirm velocity time dilation at the 10−16 level at speeds below 36 km/h. Also, gravitational time dilation was measured from a difference in elevation between two clocks of only 33 cm (13 in).[26][27]

Presently both gravitational and velocity effects are routinely incorporated, for example, into the calculations used for the Global Positioning System.[28]
I guess the list is more delusions from his FT fantasy which we can address once he answers a couple of questions about FT.
6 December 2019 philippeb8: What does your "Kinematical Time Dilation" predict for the Frisch-Smith experiment [for time dilation]?
8 December 2019 philippeb8: What does your "Kinematical Time Dilation" predict for the Hafele–Keating experiments (SR time dilation measured for travelling atomic clocks)?
N.B. Note the plural - the experiment was not done once in 1971.

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8 December 2019 philippeb8: A blatant lie about why I cited the well known Hafele Keating experiment.
His FT fantasy has a equation that is SR time dilation squared. The fact is that dozens of experiments have measured time dilation and found the SR value. The well known Hafele Keating experiment is one of those experiments.

Hafele–Keating experiment


I guess the list is more delusions from his FT fantasy which we can address once he answers a couple of questions about FT.
6 December 2019 philippeb8: What does your "Kinematical Time Dilation" predict for the Frisch-Smith experiment [for time dilation]?
8 December 2019 philippeb8: What does your "Kinematical Time Dilation" predict for the Hafele–Keating experiments (SR time dilation measured for travelling atomic clocks)?
N.B. Note the plural - the experiment was not done once in 1971.
- I explained why the Frisch-Smith is nonsense.
- Your Hafele–Keating makes no difference at low speeds:


So for a plane going at 10 m/s, the difference of time dilation factors is: 1.000000000000001 (FT) vs 1.0 (SR)

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Reality Check shouldn't be mad at me but mad at his compatriots for not helping him out defending 300 years of physics!

Hahaha.
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Time's up. So I conclude you all failed to defend 300 years of physics!
I hear ya loud and clear laddie, and I feel your pain. You have this brilliant insight that has overturned all physics and no one who matters will ever know. No one who knows will ever care. And no one who cares will ever have any more luck getting the word out than you are.

You will remain for all eternity a voice crying in the wilderness while scientists go right on ignorantly solving real world problems using science that does not work. Do you have a prediction when this house of cards world that is based on incorrect physics will collapse beyond recovery? I would like to be prepared. You know, give away all my stuff that will stop working and go live on a mountain top somewhere.
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Is there any actual theory that has been posited in this thread?

All I have seen is a thought experiment that posits a sort of magical intelligent "reference frame" that can detect the orientation of all mass in the Universe and orient itself accordingly.

The original poster is not even trying to defend this.

So, someone remind me, from what exactly is 300 years of physics allegedly under threat?
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I hear ya loud and clear laddie, and I feel your pain. You have this brilliant insight that has overturned all physics and no one who matters will ever know. No one who knows will ever care. And no one who cares will ever have any more luck getting the word out than you are.



You will remain for all eternity a voice crying in the wilderness while scientists go right on ignorantly solving real world problems using science that does not work. Do you have a prediction when this house of cards world that is based on incorrect physics will collapse beyond recovery? I would like to be prepared. You know, give away all my stuff that will stop working and go live on a mountain top somewhere.


Good question. I do have contacts to the ISS National Lab waiting and a prepaid marketing agency that will release the new book this week + more. I’ve been sacrificing a lot for this, by anticipation to what would have occurred otherwise. And the elites will invest if there’s an obvious return of investment.

So there is a probability it’ll be constructive to humankind if the word gets out there. If not then I wouldn’t give $5 to our well being in a near future (~ 6 years), given there is a greedy movement controlling our society through the mainstream media, the central banks and the politicians to which we will eventually surrender to. You can see civil wars all over Europe already.

Only science can pull the train to save the economy, save lives, create new types of transportation, conquer other worlds, etc.

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Old 8th December 2019, 06:51 PM   #188
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Exclamation 15 items of ignorance, delusion and lies from philippeb8 9 December 2019

Whoops today is the 9th!
  1. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: Repeated ignorance about what an frame of reference is (observers have their own frame of reference).
  2. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: Gibberish about GR in reply to a question about his scenario (why conditions are different)
  3. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: Abysmal "In theoretical physics you win the Nobel Prize" for non-working physics ignorance.
  4. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: A "countless number of emails" from an internet physics crank are ignored- no surprise there.
  5. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: Usual ignorance that his vague scenario is a thought experiment.
  6. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: "Einstein only had to make kappa a variable" delusions about Einstein's constant!
  7. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: "Reality Check knows he’s wrong for sure" idiocy when I cited sources that say I am right !
  8. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: Some "GR works if you add:" stupidity.
  9. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: Resorts to lies about the Frisch & Smith experiment and a low velocity experiments fantasy.
  10. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: Total gibberish about dark energy from someone who should know about dark energy.
  11. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: A "obscure Hafele Keating Experiment" lie and parrots a deluded crank.
  12. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: A blatant lie about why I cited the well known Hafele Keating experiment.
  13. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: Repeats a "I explained why the Frisch-Smith is nonsense." lie when all he explained was his deep ignorance about the state of SR in 1963.
  14. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: A delusion that he can ignore the Hafele–Keating experiments
  15. 9 December 2019 philippeb8: Still denying the 114 years of experimental tests of SR.

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Thumbs down Repeats a "I explained why the Frisch-Smith is nonsense." lie

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9 December 2019 philippeb8: Repeats a "I explained why the Frisch-Smith is nonsense." lie when all he explained was his deep ignorance about the state of SR in 1963.

9 December 2019 philippeb8: A delusion that he can ignore the Hafele–Keating experiments
He has to show that the difference cannot be measured in the actual experiment with the atomic clocks it used, not what he imagines it to be.

For others:
The 1971 experiment measured 184 ±18 nanoseconds for the SR component of time dilation. FT "time dilation" is SR squared. That suggests the experiment should have measured 33,856 nanoseconds. But science progresses!
Optical Clocks and Relativity (2010)
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Observers in relative motion or at different gravitational potentials measure disparate clock rates. These predictions of relativity have previously been observed with atomic clocks at high velocities and with large changes in elevation. We observed time dilation from relative speeds of less than 10 meters per second by comparing two optical atomic clocks connected by a 75-meter length of optical fiber. We can now also detect time dilation due to a change in height near Earth’s surface of less than 1 meter. This technique may be extended to the field of geodesy, with applications in geophysics and hydrology as well as in space-based tests of fundamental physics.
He also needs to learn about planes! Hafele and Keating probably flew on Boeing 737's whose cruising speeds start at 212 m/s, not his "10 m/s".

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Old 8th December 2019, 07:02 PM   #190
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9 December 2019 philippeb8: Still denying the 114 years of experimental tests of SR.
My "compatriots" do not have to help me defend "300 years of physics". Maybe millions of scientists have already done that. SR has passed every experiment test that has been done on it.

His FT delusions do not have any passed scientific tests. He has not even tried to match then with real data, e.g. published measurements of time dilation !
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Old 8th December 2019, 07:15 PM   #191
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Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
Good question. I do have contacts to the ISS National Lab waiting and a prepaid marketing agency that will release the new book this week + more.
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You will, I expect, let us know the details (at an appropriate time).

You will also, I expect, provide a PDF version, online, for free.

Do you intend to write a series of papers? That you will submit for publication in a relevant, peer-reviewed journal? Perhaps post on arXiv first? Or at least viXra.
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Is there any actual theory that has been posited in this thread?

All I have seen is a thought experiment that posits a sort of magical intelligent "reference frame" that can detect the orientation of all mass in the Universe and orient itself accordingly.

The original poster is not even trying to defend this.

So, someone remind me, from what exactly is 300 years of physics allegedly under threat?
I must admit that I had always thought of reference frames as being artifacts of the mathematical model. I didn't realise they were real life physical things that were affected by the orientation of the mass in the Universe.
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Old 8th December 2019, 07:35 PM   #193
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You will, I expect, let us know the details (at an appropriate time).
Of course, I'll post it as soon as it is released.

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You will also, I expect, provide a PDF version, online, for free.
- I can send by mail free signed copies;
- I know there are electronic versions of the books on Amazon but I'll see if can give it away for free using some code;
- Otherwise the electronic version is pretty cheap to purchase online in general.

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Do you intend to write a series of papers? That you will submit for publication in a relevant, peer-reviewed journal? Perhaps post on arXiv first? Or at least viXra.
I was considering the following journal once the rotation curve and the expansion of the universe are compared to the observations using the accepted notations:
https://transfers.springer.com/selec...urnalId=41598#

Once again the calculations were reviewed by a PhD and the generic rotation curve formula was taken from another PhD's work so it is a lot more credible than its predecessors. Also there is a simple thought experiment at the beginning and a real experiment proposal at the end.
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If the claims about the thought experiment at the start of this thread can't be defended, I highly doubt that they theory it was supposed to illustrate can be coherent.
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Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
Good question. I do have contacts to the ISS National Lab waiting and a prepaid marketing agency that will release the new book this week + more. I’ve been sacrificing a lot for this, by anticipation to what would have occurred otherwise. And the elites will invest if there’s an obvious return of investment.

So there is a probability it’ll be constructive to humankind if the word gets out there. If not then I wouldn’t give $5 to our well being in a near future (~ 6 years), given there is a greedy movement controlling our society through the mainstream media, the central banks and the politicians to which we will eventually surrender to. You can see civil wars all over Europe already.

Only science can pull the train to save the economy, save lives, create new types of transportation, conquer other worlds, etc.
Odd response. Your claim is to have overturned 300 years of physics, yet your word salad refers to marketing, your own sacrifice, economics, politics war, transportation, and the “conquering” of other worlds. But not a peep about physics, failed or otherwise.
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Odd response. Your claim is to have overturned 300 years of physics, yet your word salad refers to marketing, your own sacrifice, economics, politics war, transportation, and the “conquering” of other worlds. But not a peep about physics, failed or otherwise.
So I don't understand what is missing. I debated the thought experiment from all angles and you can find the old CQ debate in the first post.
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So I don't understand what is missing. I debated the thought experiment from all angles and you can find the old CQ debate in the first post.
A few vague evasive responses is not 'debating' it.
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... And the elites will invest if there’s an obvious return of investment.
I guess that would be the (((Rothschilds)))

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You can see civil wars all over Europe already.
Yeah, it's bad, we cannot travel anywhere in Europe anymore. All borders closed because of all the wars going on.
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Is there any actual theory that has been posited in this thread?
The "full" version of this "theory" is written out
Originally Posted by https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthread.php?137103-Finite-Theory-of-the-Universe-Dark-Matter-Disproof-and-Faster-Than-Light-Speed&p=2049853#post2049853
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(which was closed at a certain point, and reopened at post 936 at page 32 and then basically closed on page 42 because P did not really give any real answers, just handwaving,
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A few vague evasive responses is not 'debating' it.
You're missing his point; Einstein was a Jew.
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