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Old 9th December 2019, 08:16 AM   #201
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Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
So I don't understand what is missing. I debated the thought experiment from all angles and you can find the old CQ debate in the first post.
As that "debate" is online and can be accessed by anyone, for free, we can each make our own decisions about the extent to which you actually engaged in a debate, and the exten to which that debate included "the thought experiment from all angles".

Myself, I think tusenfem's characterization ("P did not really give any real answers, just handwaving") is accurate.
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Old 9th December 2019, 10:26 AM   #202
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So I don't understand what is missing. I debated the thought experiment from all angles and you can find the old CQ debate in the first post.
You cannot overturn established physics by debate. You must provide new physics.
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Old 9th December 2019, 10:30 AM   #203
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Originally Posted by tusenfem View Post
The "full" version of this "theory" is written out (which was closed at a certain point, and reopened at post 936 at page 32 and then basically closed on page 42 because P did not really give any real answers, just handwaving,
That's because I had the idea right but not a very "pretty rotation curve"; now I do:
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Old 9th December 2019, 10:33 AM   #204
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You cannot overturn established physics by debate. You must provide new physics.
You can find drafts here:
https://independent.academia.edu/PhilBouchard
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Old 9th December 2019, 10:38 AM   #205
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I know everybody was online so that's why it counted.
You don't know squat. You don't know what other people do during their time online. Stop posting nonsense.

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Chemical reactions that emit energy are the same thing.
First of all, no they're not. And second, the sun's energy source IS NOT CHEMICAL.
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Old 9th December 2019, 10:40 AM   #206
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Well itís better than concluding there are 11 dimensions...
The fact that something is hard to understand or counter-intuitive does not make it wrong.
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Old 9th December 2019, 10:41 AM   #207
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The GPS is nothing compared to what we could achieve:
- faster than light speed
- time travel into the future
- levitation
The GPS works specifically because of a theory that makes faster-than-light travel impossible.

Your ignorance of the fundamentals of the theories you profess to supplant is staggering.
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Old 9th December 2019, 10:44 AM   #208
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Actually time travel into the future is the easiest to achieve by sending a higher flux of gravitons through a body and therefore achieving perfect cryonics for those who needs to be kept alive for a cure we do not yet have:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryonics
Gravitons surely would overturn much of known physics.

What's your plan to detect those?

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Reality Check either knows heís wrong and is in a denial or knows heís wrong and decided to blur the evidence. Either way Reality Check knows heís wrong for sure.
What would be the purpose of obfuscating reality?

You lose automatically if you say "to control people".
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Old 9th December 2019, 10:47 AM   #209
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As that "debate" is online and can be accessed by anyone, for free, we can each make our own decisions about the extent to which you actually engaged in a debate, and the exten to which that debate included "the thought experiment from all angles".
Given we're in 2019, I agree I should work on a better visual presentation using 3D animations, etc.

Meanwhile I rely on people's personal imagination.
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Old 9th December 2019, 10:48 AM   #210
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The fact that something is hard to understand or counter-intuitive does not make it wrong.
Good luck with that.
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Old 9th December 2019, 10:56 AM   #211
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Gravitons surely would overturn much of known physics.

What's your plan to detect those?
They can be easily detected indirectly with my experiment proposal. The rest is all in quantum physics' and engineers' hands.

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What would be the purpose of obfuscating reality?

You lose automatically if you say "to control people".
I suspect Reality Check is retired but is desperately trying to save his prestige by shuffling the cards of any underdog theory presenting a threat to the almighty Einstein. But Reality Check doesn't understand he's misleading an entire generation.
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Old 9th December 2019, 11:08 AM   #212
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Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
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- Those who do not believe me can answer this simple thought experiment:

Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. Can the star spin on its own and if so at what speed will the fire be ejected given an angular velocity omega?
Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. The star is composed entirely of iron, of isotope 56. It has a mass of 2x1032 kg.

What happens?

In particular, will it eject fire?
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Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
Good luck with that.
Good luck with what?

Do you understand the concept of a mirage, for instance? Your intuition tells you that there is a floating city above the ground. Your knowledge tells you otherwise. Likewise many scientific discoveries, some testable by yourself, defy our normal understanding.


But, and here's the important part: the universe is under no obligation to make sense to you, personally.
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Old 9th December 2019, 11:11 AM   #214
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Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. The star is composed entirely of iron, of isotope 56. It has a mass of 2x1032 kg.

What happens?

In particular, will it eject fire?
Yes but not because of its spin.
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They can be easily detected indirectly with my experiment proposal.
How? Explain.

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I thought they weren't trustworthy?

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Prestige? What are you talking about?

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presenting a threat to the almighty Einstein.
And this is another classic woo-woo blunder: Einstein theories have been refined and modified and supplanted over the decades, you know? Science has moved beyond Einstein, but people who are ignorant of science don't know that.
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Old 9th December 2019, 11:14 AM   #216
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Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
<snip>

- Those who do not believe me can answer this simple thought experiment:

Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. Can the star spin on its own and if so at what speed will the fire be ejected given an angular velocity omega?
Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. The star is a single atom of curium, of isotope 250.

What happens?

In particular, will it eject fire?
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Old 9th December 2019, 11:18 AM   #217
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Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. The star is a single atom of curium, of isotope 250.

What happens?

In particular, will it eject fire?
Yes but not because of its spin.
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Originally Posted by JeanTate
Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. The star is composed entirely of iron, of isotope 56. It has a mass of 2x1032 kg.

What happens?

In particular, will it eject fire?
Yes but not because of its spin.
Please explain.

What, specifically, is the "fire" that it will "eject"?

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Old 9th December 2019, 11:22 AM   #219
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Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. The star is a single atom of curium, of isotope 250.

What happens?

In particular, will it eject fire?
Yes but not because of its spin.
Please explain.

What, specifically, is the "fire" that it will "eject"?
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Old 9th December 2019, 11:24 AM   #220
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Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
<snip>

- Those who do not believe me can answer this simple thought experiment:

Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. Can the star spin on its own and if so at what speed will the fire be ejected given an angular velocity omega?
Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. The star is a single atom of barium, of isotope 130.

What happens?

In particular, will it eject fire?
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How? Explain.
You can find a draft in the aforementioned Academia link.

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I thought they weren't trustworthy?
I never said that.

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Prestige? What are you talking about?
We all know prestige is an important factor in science for the proper selection of journals and professors; maybe too much...

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And this is another classic woo-woo blunder: Einstein theories have been refined and modified and supplanted over the decades, you know? Science has moved beyond Einstein, but people who are ignorant of science don't know that.
The only thing Einstein got right is the time dilation but there is a strong probability he plagiarized the idea from Lorentz. But I won't talk about what he got wrong (because it's a long list).
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Please explain.

What, specifically, is the "fire" that it will "eject"?
Or "plasma" if you prefer.
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You can find a draft in the aforementioned Academia link.
No, I'm asking you to explain it to me.

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I never said that.
Did someone else write this, then:

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Because I realized at a young age both politicians and the entire academia have a tendency to brainwash us for their agenda.

Also people havenít taken up the theory because they are too egocentric to admit they have been playing the game their entire lives.
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We all know prestige is an important factor in science for the proper selection of journals and professors; maybe too much...
Actually, we don't all know that. You think that, but that doesn't make it knowledge.

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You have a lot of work to do to overturn his work, son.
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Or "plasma" if you prefer.
I'm going to ask you point blank:

Explain what you think "plasma" is, and how it works.
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Old 9th December 2019, 11:31 AM   #225
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Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
<snip>

- Those who do not believe me can answer this simple thought experiment:

Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. Can the star spin on its own and if so at what speed will the fire be ejected given an angular velocity omega?
Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. The star is a sphere of neptunium of isotope 236, with a mass of 100 kg.

What happens?

In particular, will it eject fire?
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Please explain.

What, specifically, is the "fire" that it will "eject"?
Or "plasma" if you prefer.
Here is what I asked (bold added):

Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. The star is a single atom of curium, of isotope 250.

What happens?

In particular, will it eject fire?


What, in the magical philippeb8 universe, is the "plasma" in this case? Please be specific.
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No, I'm asking you to explain it to me.
It's like the Michelson-Morley experiment at a high velocity or against the frame of reference of the Earth, aboard the ISS. We will be able to detect a difference in wavelength depending on the direction the laser is traveling.

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Did someone else write this, then:
Quantum physicists and engineers are not politicians. And they're not forced to believe in the almighty Einstein's work.

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Actually, we don't all know that. You think that, but that doesn't make it knowledge.
I saw a report on it.

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You have a lot of work to do to overturn his work, son.
I admit Reality Check brought up smart arguments in the past but Reality Check is now resorting to word salad and shuffling the cards so it is obvious he ran out of scientific arguments.
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I'm going to ask you point blank:

Explain what you think "plasma" is, and how it works.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29
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It's like the Michelson-Morley experiment at a high velocity or against the frame of reference of the Earth,
Wait ... haven't there been quite a few such experiments done?

Haven't the results of those experiments been published?

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aboard the ISS.
Why?

What's so magical about the ISS?

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We will be able to detect a difference in wavelength depending on the direction the laser is traveling.
But exactly such experiments have already been done, haven't they?

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Quantum physicists and engineers are not politicians. And they're not forced to believe in the almighty Einstein's work.

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Interesting.

How do you class Steven Chu then?
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Originally Posted by JeanTate
Please explain.

What, specifically, is the "fire" that it will "eject"?
Or "plasma" if you prefer.
Here is what I asked (bold added):

Imagine you have an empty universe with 1 star in it. The star is a single atom of curium, of isotope 250.

What happens?

In particular, will it eject fire?


What, in the magical philippeb8 universe, is the "plasma" in this case? Please be specific.
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Originally Posted by Belz...
I'm going to ask you point blank:

Explain what you think "plasma" is, and how it works.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29
You're joking, right?

Or something worse?

Please explain, in detail, how the "fire" "ejected" by a single atom of curium, of isotope 250 is a "plasma".

For avoidance of doubt, this is a pretty good example of the "few vague evasive responses" that Robin mentioned earlier, and "not really any real answers, just handwaving" that tusenfem described.
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Wait ... haven't there been quite a few such experiments done?

Haven't the results of those experiments been published?
No.

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Why?

What's so magical about the ISS?
Because it travels at 8000 m/s.

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But exactly such experiments have already been done, haven't they?
No.

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Interesting.

How do you class Steven Chu then?
As smart as Dr. Chu is technically, he is still a puppet used by the globalists' global warming propaganda because Dr. Chu doesn't even know hydrogen engines are already developed by Hyundai and Switzerland is a great hydrogen provider already.

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It's like the Michelson-Morley experiment at a high velocity or against the frame of reference of the Earth, aboard the ISS. We will be able to detect a difference in wavelength depending on the direction the laser is traveling.
That's very vague.

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Quantum physicists and engineers are not politicians. And they're not forced to believe in the almighty Einstein's work.
As I've explained to you, science has moved beyond Einstein now. The only people who think he's almighty are woo-woos.

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I saw a report on it.
You believe everything you see?

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NO. Give me YOUR answer.
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That's very vague.
So for the same laser beams having the same energy, the wavelengths will be different depending on the direction it is emitted.

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As I've explained to you, science has moved beyond Einstein now. The only people who think he's almighty are woo-woos.
By saying that you're taking for granted Einstein was 100% right.

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You believe everything you see?
Yes but only when it makes sense.

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NO. Give me YOUR answer.
So you have different states of matter: solid, liquid, gas and plasma. Plasma is the one you get when the temperatures are extremely high.

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Because it travels at 8000 m/s.

The Earth travels at approx. 30,000 m/s. Why is the speed of the ISS significant?
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Good luck with that.
You're the one who will need the luck.
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So for the same laser beams having the same energy, the wavelengths will be different depending on the direction it is emitted.
Again, I don't understand what you mean. Could you detail it further?

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By saying that you're taking for granted Einstein was 100% right.
By saying that we've MOVED ON from his theories onto BETTER theories I'm saying that he was 100% right? Dude, that's the exact opposite of what I'm doing.

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Yes but only when it makes sense.
And how do you determine if it makes sense?

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So you have different states of matter: solid, liquid, gaz and plasma. Plasma is the one you get when the temperatures are extremely high.
That doesn't tell me what it is. What is it made of? How does it work?

You said it was chemical so I want to know where the issue lies.
You seem to be very loathe to put any effort into your answers.
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Yes but only when it makes sense.

Read as: "only when I agree with it."
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Originally Posted by Steve View Post
The Earth travels at approx. 30,000 m/s. Why is the speed of the ISS significant?
Because the frame of reference spinning with the Earth cancels the 30,000 m/s for short altitudes below the geostationary orbit (where the gravitational acceleration strength of the Earth equals the gravitational acceleration strength of the Sun).
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Old 9th December 2019, 12:42 PM   #239
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Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
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Wait ... haven't there been quite a few such experiments done?

Haven't the results of those experiments been published?
No.
Really?

A couple of minutes' searching turned up (nowhere near a complete list):
de Sitter, 1913
Tomaschek, 1924
Kennedy, 1926
Illingworth, 1927
Kennedy-Thorndike, 1932
Ives-Stilwell, 1938
Brecher, 1977
Wolf, 2003
MŁller, 2007

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But exactly such experiments have already been done, haven't they?
No.
Now I know you're joking.

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As smart as Dr. Chu is technically, he is still a puppet used by the globalists' global warming propaganda because Dr. Chu doesn't even know hydrogen engines are already developed by Hyundai and Switzerland is a great hydrogen provider already.
Wow, just ... wow!

Have you considered posting in the Conspiracy Theory board?
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Old 9th December 2019, 12:49 PM   #240
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
You're the one who will need the luck.
Well let's talk to each other in 6 years and we'll see where the research for dark matter and dark energy are. Deal?
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