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Old 4th December 2018, 10:06 PM   #1
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Lindsey Graham on why your party affiliation matters

In his statement to CNN, Lindsey Graham said something truly revealing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_yROrhwPTY
(around 0:40)

Talking about Pompeo and Mattis refusing to admit that there is overwhelming evidence putting MBS in charge of the Murder of Jamal Khashoggi, Graham said that if a Democrat was doing this, he'd accuse them of being in the pockets of the Saudi, but since Pompeo and Mattis are Republicans, they are just being "Good Soldiers".

What a piece of work.
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Old 4th December 2018, 10:28 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
In his statement to CNN, Lindsey Graham said something truly revealing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_yROrhwPTY
(around 0:40)

Talking about Pompeo and Mattis refusing to admit that there is overwhelming evidence putting MBS in charge of the Murder of Jamal Khashoggi, Graham said that if a Democrat was doing this, he'd accuse them of being in the pockets of the Saudi, but since Pompeo and Mattis are Republicans, they are just being "Good Soldiers".

What a piece of work.
I interpreted what Graham said differently. I took it as a warning shot across the bow. If you think I'm going to let this slide because we're all Republicans, you've got another thing coming. I could be wrong.
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Old 4th December 2018, 10:44 PM   #3
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I would be surprised to learn Mattis is registered as a member of either party.
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Old 4th December 2018, 10:48 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
I would be surprised to learn Mattis is registered as a member of either party.
.. in which case I would have to change my post to "it's only corruption if Democrats do it".
Doesn't change the openly acknowledged Double Standards on display here.
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Old 4th December 2018, 10:51 PM   #5
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I think when you listen to the whole quote in context, varwoche is spot on.
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Old 4th December 2018, 11:03 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
I think when you listen to the whole quote in context, varwoche is spot on.
I listened.
But it is just so wrong to even mention party affiliation in this context, and admitting that what he would harshly criticize in a Democractic government is only reason for concern if the administration is run by his party.
Democract or Republican shouldn't enter into this at all, and Graham is obviously using partisanship to provide cover for his criticism.
No one should do this: it just reinforces the impression that the Trump administration is above the law.
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Old 5th December 2018, 12:59 AM   #7
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My interpretation of Graham's statement is that he was being sarcastic regarding Mattis and Pompeo toeing the line for Trump by being "good soldiers". He was pointing out the hypocrisy of partisanship on this particular subject and not excluding himself.
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Old 5th December 2018, 02:14 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
My interpretation of Graham's statement is that he was being sarcastic regarding Mattis and Pompeo toeing the line for Trump by being "good soldiers". He was pointing out the hypocrisy of partisanship on this particular subject and not excluding himself.
This is how I interpreted it. He basically is saying that the only way that you could not see the truth of the matter is is you were in the Saudi's pockets if sticking to the party line of the administration coming from the White House.
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Old 5th December 2018, 06:18 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
In his statement to CNN, Lindsey Graham said something truly revealing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_yROrhwPTY
(around 0:40)

Talking about Pompeo and Mattis refusing to admit that there is overwhelming evidence putting MBS in charge of the Murder of Jamal Khashoggi, Graham said that if a Democrat was doing this, he'd accuse them of being in the pockets of the Saudi, but since Pompeo and Mattis are Republicans, they are just being "Good Soldiers".

What a piece of work.
Lindsey Graham is just doing what he constantly does.

Graham is always trying to be on both sides of the same issue. By doing so, he is then able to jump on to the winning team while appearing to have been supportive of the winning team and unsupportive of the loosing team the entire time.

Anyway, as based on Graham history, I expect that what will happen for the present is that Graham will pretend to be so terribly incensed about the Khashoggi murder and to be somewhat incensed about Trump for not doing more about the Khashoggi murder.

And then, after things cool down, Graham will promptly go back to kissing Trump's huge ass in order to get some Trump love.

Afterwards, the cycle will repeat when some other divisive issue arises.
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Old 5th December 2018, 06:44 AM   #10
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He's like Flake. He talks a good game but we will see about action.
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Old 5th December 2018, 06:51 AM   #11
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Yeah. Graham, in full context, is saying he disagrees with their findings but gets that they are partisan hacks. This one is not #Living While Republican.
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Old 5th December 2018, 07:18 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Crossbow View Post
Graham is always trying to be on both sides of the same issue.
Bingo.
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Old 5th December 2018, 07:53 AM   #13
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He's trying to be pro Trumpish to fight off a primary challenge and anti Trump enough to not drown in another blue wave in 2020.
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