Trump announces new concentration camps - Page 13

theprestige · 28th November 2018, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by tyr_13

Probably comes down to the questions of 'how much of the Middle East', 'what is the Middle East', and 'what do you mean by stable'?

It probably should, but it obviously didn't.

tyr_13 · 28th November 2018, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

It probably should, but it obviously didn't.

Probably a derail and I might just start a thread in History, but I'm curious; is there a time you would consider the Middle East to have been 'stable'?

theprestige · 28th November 2018, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by tyr_13

Probably a derail and I might just start a thread in History, but I'm curious; is there a time you would consider the Middle East to have been 'stable'?

I might be willing to consider the Sassanid period, if someone defined their terms and made a case.

Minoosh · 28th November 2018, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Since when has the Middle East EVER been stable?

It has been relatively stable many times, but in this context I would cite Iraq under Saddam.

ETA: I think the U.S., and yes, Obama, was naive about the Arab Spring.

ETA2: And while I think Israel has a right to exist, it's been a handy boogeyman for riling up Arabs & others. This has served Israel's purposes at times, too. A territorial dispute became a proxy for a much larger, more intractable conflict.

ETA3: A separate thread would be good. I'm sure I have a lot to learn.

The Great Zaganza · 28th November 2018, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

I bet not.

For the Ottoman Caliphs, any place that paid sufficient taxes was by definition at peace.

ponderingturtle · 29th November 2018, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by Minoosh

I'm no expert but the British wanted them to stay out of Palestine and many were interred in refugee camps after being rescued from labor/death camps (or after camp guards just left). It's the plot of the book "Exodus," which is pretty much propaganda. I don't say that in a bad way, but the author was speaking as an advocate for Zionism or for a Jewish state. The Australian mainland was considered as well as the Australian island of Tasmania, which had been largely cleared of pesky aboriginals.

The point is that the people who are rejecting comparisons to the holocaust are taking positions that would have applied to when there were still options to it happening and would have encouraged it.

Quote:

For a more contemporary example of rejecting refugees, people who escape North Korea aren't really welcomed with open arms anywhere, that I know of.

South Korea I think but it is hard to get there from china which hates them.

tyr_13 · 29th November 2018, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by theprestige

I might be willing to consider the Sassanid period, if someone defined their terms and made a case.

Thanks.

I was almost asleep last night when I realized that I had said 'Sasanid' when I was thinking of the Achaemenid Empire. It made me feel so stupid that I had to share with the class my mistake.

eeyore1954 · 29th November 2018, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by tyr_13

Thanks.

I was almost asleep last night when I realized that I had said 'Sasanid' when I was thinking of the Achaemenid Empire. It made me feel so stupid that I had to share with the class my mistake.

Instead of feeling stupid I would feel pretty smart if I had any idea of the empire you are talking about.

tyr_13 · 29th November 2018, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by eeyore1954

Instead of feeling stupid I would feel pretty smart if I had any idea of the empire you are talking about.

Roughly speaking, I cited the second Persian Empire, when I was thinking of the first Persian Empire. I may have also cited the timescale of the Sasanid. In my defense, I had been researching Sasanid swords recently.

If I didn't know the difference, I would not have felt as stupid. That I full well know the difference and said the other one, that made me feel stupid.

Darat · 29th November 2018, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha

Linky.

Which would match with the abuses claimed in this article: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opi...n-13418679.php

dudalb · 29th November 2018, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by tyr_13

Roughly speaking, I cited the second Persian Empire, when I was thinking of the first Persian Empire. I may have also cited the timescale of the Sasanid. In my defense, I had been researching Sasanid swords recently.

If I didn't know the difference, I would not have felt as stupid. That I full well know the difference and said the other one, that made me feel stupid.

I should have stated Snce then has the Middle East been stable since 1918?".

Baylor · 29th November 2018, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha

Linky.

carlitos · 30th November 2018, 07:47 AM

Baylor is in good company. Look at all of the respectable internet sites that show the image above.

ETA - Stormfront was on the list after I clicked "next," but you get the idea.

LSSBB · 30th November 2018, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by carlitos

Baylor is in good company. Look at all of the respectable internet sites that show the image above.

ETA - Stormfront was on the list after I clicked "next," but you get the idea.

Interesting how it implies both that oppression is just how White Countries are, while also implying that non-white people seek out oppression. Or is it implying they aren't oppressive, because look who wants in - as if no one sought out the opportunities to succeed in another country despite knowing that there would be a new country they would have to fit into. In either case, it is a blatant attempt to normalize oppression. Then again, consider the source.

carlitos · 30th November 2018, 08:39 AM

The hook nose on the guide sign is a also a nice touch, helping to remind us that it is The Jew who is orchestrating the emigration. Just in case someone is looking for a community center to shoot up.

Thermal · 30th November 2018, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by carlitos

The hook nose on the guide sign is a also a nice touch, helping to remind us that it is The Jew who is orchestrating the emigration. Just in case someone is looking for a community center to shoot up.

Extra points for the portrayal of the faces of the immigrants. Rarely do you see such blatant racism touted so openly.

Baylor · 30th November 2018, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

The hook nose on the guide sign is a also a nice touch, helping to remind us that it is The Jew who is orchestrating the emigration. Just in case someone is looking for a community center to shoot up.

The point was to show that people do not bypass several countries to enter a country where they and their children are abused. Calling someone racist or anti-semitic does not debunk that argument.

baron · 30th November 2018, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

The hook nose on the guide sign is a also a nice touch, helping to remind us that it is The Jew who is orchestrating the emigration.

I thought it was a paper clip.

Baylor · 30th November 2018, 01:11 PM

Guess not. I don't believe in the CT that jews are behind mass immigration, I couldn't find a more tasteful image to get the point across.

LSSBB · 30th November 2018, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Baylor

The point was to show that people do not bypass several countries to enter a country where they and their children are abused. Calling someone racist or anti-semitic does not debunk that argument.

That is binary thinking. People migrate for many reasons, and with a variety of levels of understanding what conditions they may encounter.

carlitos · 30th November 2018, 01:22 PM

Surely someone posting Nazi cartoons in lieu of an argument wouldn't be engaging in binary thinking.

dudalb · 30th November 2018, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Baylor

Well, if there was any doubt about somebody's bigotry,it has been removed.

LSSBB · 30th November 2018, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

Surely someone posting Nazi cartoons in lieu of an argument wouldn't be engaging in binary thinking.

What is really intriguing is what does it take to admit they are wrong?

Aside from what the guy in American History X went through...

Ron_Tomkins · 30th November 2018, 05:38 PM

You know, I'm no Trump fan either. But to seriously believe that Trump is gonna have actual concentration camps like Hitler did, is a whole new level of delusional.

RecoveringYuppy · 30th November 2018, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Ron_Tomkins

You know, I'm no Trump fan either. But to seriously believe that Trump is gonna have actual concentration camps like Hitler did, is a whole new level of delusional.

I haven't followed all of the conversation. Has anyone implied he'll institute concentration camps like Hitler? I thought the claim was that he would institute concentration camps like Roosevelt.

LSSBB · 30th November 2018, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy

I haven't followed all of the conversation. Has anyone implied he'll institute concentration camps like Hitler? I thought the claim was that he would institute concentration camps like Roosevelt.

Or the British ones.

bruto · 30th November 2018, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Baylor

Guess not. I don't believe in the CT that jews are behind mass immigration, I couldn't find a more tasteful image to get the point across.

To a person not estranged from the thought process, the absence of a more tasteful image might be thought indictative of something.

Baylor · 30th November 2018, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

Surely someone posting Nazi cartoons in lieu of an argument wouldn't be engaging in binary thinking.

Sometimes it takes something shocking to get a point through someone's skull. My country's borders aren't to be breached because some European likes to pretend he suddenly cares about Central American children.

Stacko · 30th November 2018, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ron_Tomkins

You know, I'm no Trump fan either. But to seriously believe that Trump is gonna have actual concentration camps like Hitler did, is a whole new level of delusional.

It sure rhymes.

Lorena and her two children hold out their arms to show the numbers they were given to be on a list of migrants seeking political asylum in the United States. (Photo: Adria Malcolm for Yahoo News)

Jerrymander · 1st December 2018, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

When fascism comes to America it will be disguised as anti-fascism.

LOL, so the alt right and promoters of ethnic cleansing are not fascist?

Allen773 · 2nd December 2018, 03:22 PM

Why would anyone defend Trump at this point - on anything?

Ziggurat · 2nd December 2018, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Allen773

Why would anyone defend Trump at this point - on anything?

Why would anyone disagree with you at this point - on anything?

It's a mystery, I tell you.

smartcooky · 2nd December 2018, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Baylor

Disgraceful. It says more about you that anything else.

At least we know for sure now that we are dealing with a racist bigot.

sir drinks-a-lot · 2nd December 2018, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Stacko

It sure rhymes.

No, it really doesn't. Sorry to ruin the party.

Civet · 2nd December 2018, 05:22 PM

Gonna point out here that the numbers are being written on migrants by the charitable organization Casa Del Migrantes, not US government employees. They could have handled it better but we're talking about a charity that's trying to provide aid to a lot of people in a hurry so I'm inclined to cut them a little slack.

Info here:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/take-numb...210835939.html

Carry on.

Allen773 · 2nd December 2018, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

Why would anyone disagree with you at this point - on anything?

It's a mystery, I tell you.

Oh I know that a lot of people are disgusting (Exhibit A: Trump and his cultish fan club) so the question was merely rhetorical.

ponderingturtle · 3rd December 2018, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Ron_Tomkins

You know, I'm no Trump fan either. But to seriously believe that Trump is gonna have actual concentration camps like Hitler did, is a whole new level of delusional.

Which camps and when for hitler? We certainly do have concentration camps by the historic definition dating back the the Boer war. And yes in popular culture the difference between concentration camps and death camps is rather muddied but they still fit the definition.

fuelair · 6th December 2018, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I think the policy stinks on ice, but are you seriously suggesting genocide is in the works?

With Trumpf, who knows.....

Ziggurat · 7th December 2018, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by fuelair

With Trumpf, who knows.....

Everyone. Everyone knows that genocide isn't in the works. Even the people claiming it don't really believe it. They certainly don't act like they believe it.

The Great Zaganza · 9th December 2018, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

Everyone. Everyone knows that genocide isn't in the works. Even the people claiming it don't really believe it. They certainly don't act like they believe it.

Correct.
Genocide requires organization, commitment, a thick skin for bad press and an ideology.
Trump has none of these things.

28th November 2018, 06:44 PM	#482
tyr_13 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 15,754	Originally Posted by theprestige It probably should, but it obviously didn't. Probably a derail and I might just start a thread in History, but I'm curious; is there a time you would consider the Middle East to have been 'stable'?
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28th November 2018, 06:55 PM	#484
Minoosh Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 8,250	Originally Posted by dudalb Since when has the Middle East EVER been stable? It has been relatively stable many times, but in this context I would cite Iraq under Saddam. ETA: I think the U.S., and yes, Obama, was naive about the Arab Spring. ETA2: And while I think Israel has a right to exist, it's been a handy boogeyman for riling up Arabs & others. This has served Israel's purposes at times, too. A territorial dispute became a proxy for a much larger, more intractable conflict. ETA3: A separate thread would be good. I'm sure I have a lot to learn.
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28th November 2018, 10:31 PM	#485
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 6,189	Originally Posted by theprestige I bet not. For the Ottoman Caliphs, any place that paid sufficient taxes was by definition at peace.
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29th November 2018, 04:40 AM	#486
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 44,737	Originally Posted by Minoosh I'm no expert but the British wanted them to stay out of Palestine and many were interred in refugee camps after being rescued from labor/death camps (or after camp guards just left). It's the plot of the book "Exodus," which is pretty much propaganda. I don't say that in a bad way, but the author was speaking as an advocate for Zionism or for a Jewish state. The Australian mainland was considered as well as the Australian island of Tasmania, which had been largely cleared of pesky aboriginals. The point is that the people who are rejecting comparisons to the holocaust are taking positions that would have applied to when there were still options to it happening and would have encouraged it. Quote: For a more contemporary example of rejecting refugees, people who escape North Korea aren't really welcomed with open arms anywhere, that I know of. South Korea I think but it is hard to get there from china which hates them.
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29th November 2018, 11:44 AM	#487
tyr_13 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 15,754	Originally Posted by theprestige I might be willing to consider the Sassanid period, if someone defined their terms and made a case. Thanks. I was almost asleep last night when I realized that I had said 'Sasanid' when I was thinking of the Achaemenid Empire. It made me feel so stupid that I had to share with the class my mistake.
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28th November 2018, 06:32 PM	#481
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30,440	Originally Posted by tyr_13 Probably comes down to the questions of 'how much of the Middle East', 'what is the Middle East', and 'what do you mean by stable'? It probably should, but it obviously didn't.

28th November 2018, 06:53 PM	#483
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30,440	Originally Posted by tyr_13 Probably a derail and I might just start a thread in History, but I'm curious; is there a time you would consider the Middle East to have been 'stable'? I might be willing to consider the Sassanid period, if someone defined their terms and made a case.

29th November 2018, 11:52 AM	#488
eeyore1954 Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,325	Originally Posted by tyr_13 Thanks. I was almost asleep last night when I realized that I had said 'Sasanid' when I was thinking of the Achaemenid Empire. It made me feel so stupid that I had to share with the class my mistake. Instead of feeling stupid I would feel pretty smart if I had any idea of the empire you are talking about.
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29th November 2018, 12:02 PM	#489
tyr_13 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 15,754	Originally Posted by eeyore1954 Instead of feeling stupid I would feel pretty smart if I had any idea of the empire you are talking about. Roughly speaking, I cited the second Persian Empire, when I was thinking of the first Persian Empire. I may have also cited the timescale of the Sasanid. In my defense, I had been researching Sasanid swords recently. If I didn't know the difference, I would not have felt as stupid. That I full well know the difference and said the other one, that made me feel stupid.
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29th November 2018, 01:52 PM	#490
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 84,250	Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha Linky. Which would match with the abuses claimed in this article: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opi...n-13418679.php
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29th November 2018, 03:59 PM	#491
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 41,829	Originally Posted by tyr_13 Roughly speaking, I cited the second Persian Empire, when I was thinking of the first Persian Empire. I may have also cited the timescale of the Sasanid. In my defense, I had been researching Sasanid swords recently. If I didn't know the difference, I would not have felt as stupid. That I full well know the difference and said the other one, that made me feel stupid. I should have stated Snce then has the Middle East been stable since 1918?".
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29th November 2018, 11:54 PM	#492
Baylor Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,906	Originally Posted by Tsukasa Buddha Linky.

30th November 2018, 08:07 AM	#494
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 19,813	Originally Posted by carlitos Baylor is in good company. Look at all of the respectable internet sites that show the image above. ETA - Stormfront was on the list after I clicked "next," but you get the idea. Interesting how it implies both that oppression is just how White Countries are, while also implying that non-white people seek out oppression. Or is it implying they aren't oppressive, because look who wants in - as if no one sought out the opportunities to succeed in another country despite knowing that there would be a new country they would have to fit into. In either case, it is a blatant attempt to normalize oppression. Then again, consider the source.
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30th November 2018, 08:39 AM	#495
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 18,817	The hook nose on the guide sign is a also a nice touch, helping to remind us that it is The Jew who is orchestrating the emigration. Just in case someone is looking for a community center to shoot up.

30th November 2018, 09:27 AM	#496
Thermal Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NJ USA. We Don't Like You Either Posts: 5,578	Originally Posted by carlitos The hook nose on the guide sign is a also a nice touch, helping to remind us that it is The Jew who is orchestrating the emigration. Just in case someone is looking for a community center to shoot up. Extra points for the portrayal of the faces of the immigrants. Rarely do you see such blatant racism touted so openly.
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30th November 2018, 12:44 PM	#497
Baylor Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,906	Originally Posted by carlitos The hook nose on the guide sign is a also a nice touch, helping to remind us that it is The Jew who is orchestrating the emigration. Just in case someone is looking for a community center to shoot up. The point was to show that people do not bypass several countries to enter a country where they and their children are abused. Calling someone racist or anti-semitic does not debunk that argument.

30th November 2018, 01:05 PM	#498
baron Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,196	Originally Posted by carlitos The hook nose on the guide sign is a also a nice touch, helping to remind us that it is The Jew who is orchestrating the emigration. I thought it was a paper clip.
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30th November 2018, 01:11 PM	#499
Baylor Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,906	Guess not. I don't believe in the CT that jews are behind mass immigration, I couldn't find a more tasteful image to get the point across.

30th November 2018, 01:16 PM	#500
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 19,813	Originally Posted by Baylor The point was to show that people do not bypass several countries to enter a country where they and their children are abused. Calling someone racist or anti-semitic does not debunk that argument. That is binary thinking. People migrate for many reasons, and with a variety of levels of understanding what conditions they may encounter.
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30th November 2018, 01:22 PM	#501
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 18,817	Surely someone posting Nazi cartoons in lieu of an argument wouldn't be engaging in binary thinking.

30th November 2018, 01:31 PM	#502
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 41,829	Originally Posted by Baylor Well, if there was any doubt about somebody's bigotry,it has been removed.
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30th November 2018, 01:33 PM	#503
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 19,813	Originally Posted by carlitos Surely someone posting Nazi cartoons in lieu of an argument wouldn't be engaging in binary thinking. What is really intriguing is what does it take to admit they are wrong? Aside from what the guy in American History X went through...
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30th November 2018, 05:38 PM	#504
Ron_Tomkins Satan's Helper Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 43,065	You know, I'm no Trump fan either. But to seriously believe that Trump is gonna have actual concentration camps like Hitler did, is a whole new level of delusional.
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30th November 2018, 06:59 PM	#505
RecoveringYuppy Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,883	Originally Posted by Ron_Tomkins You know, I'm no Trump fan either. But to seriously believe that Trump is gonna have actual concentration camps like Hitler did, is a whole new level of delusional. I haven't followed all of the conversation. Has anyone implied he'll institute concentration camps like Hitler? I thought the claim was that he would institute concentration camps like Roosevelt.
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30th November 2018, 07:16 PM	#506
LSSBB Devilish Dictionarian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: An elusive house at Bachelors Grove Cemetery Posts: 19,813	Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy I haven't followed all of the conversation. Has anyone implied he'll institute concentration camps like Hitler? I thought the claim was that he would institute concentration camps like Roosevelt. Or the British ones.
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30th November 2018, 07:54 PM	#507
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 23,163	Originally Posted by Baylor Guess not. I don't believe in the CT that jews are behind mass immigration, I couldn't find a more tasteful image to get the point across. To a person not estranged from the thought process, the absence of a more tasteful image might be thought indictative of something.
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30th November 2018, 09:04 PM	#508
Baylor Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,906	Originally Posted by carlitos Surely someone posting Nazi cartoons in lieu of an argument wouldn't be engaging in binary thinking. Sometimes it takes something shocking to get a point through someone's skull. My country's borders aren't to be breached because some European likes to pretend he suddenly cares about Central American children.

30th November 2018, 09:20 PM	#509
Stacko Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,262	Originally Posted by Ron_Tomkins You know, I'm no Trump fan either. But to seriously believe that Trump is gonna have actual concentration camps like Hitler did, is a whole new level of delusional. It sure rhymes. Lorena and her two children hold out their arms to show the numbers they were given to be on a list of migrants seeking political asylum in the United States. (Photo: Adria Malcolm for Yahoo News)

1st December 2018, 05:23 PM	#510
Jerrymander Critical Thinker Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 391	Originally Posted by Brainster When fascism comes to America it will be disguised as anti-fascism. LOL, so the alt right and promoters of ethnic cleansing are not fascist?

2nd December 2018, 03:22 PM	#511
Allen773 Muse Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 929	Why would anyone defend Trump at this point - on anything?
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2nd December 2018, 03:50 PM	#512
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 41,377	Originally Posted by Allen773 Why would anyone defend Trump at this point - on anything? Why would anyone disagree with you at this point - on anything? It's a mystery, I tell you.
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2nd December 2018, 04:07 PM	#513
smartcooky Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 9,688	Originally Posted by Baylor <image snipped in disgust> Disgraceful. It says more about you that anything else. At least we know for sure now that we are dealing with a racist bigot.
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2nd December 2018, 04:15 PM	#514
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2nd December 2018, 05:22 PM	#515
Civet Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,632	Gonna point out here that the numbers are being written on migrants by the charitable organization Casa Del Migrantes, not US government employees. They could have handled it better but we're talking about a charity that's trying to provide aid to a lot of people in a hurry so I'm inclined to cut them a little slack. Info here: https://www.yahoo.com/news/take-numb...210835939.html Carry on.
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2nd December 2018, 09:15 PM	#516
Allen773 Muse Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 929	Originally Posted by Ziggurat Why would anyone disagree with you at this point - on anything? It's a mystery, I tell you. Oh I know that a lot of people are disgusting (Exhibit A: Trump and his cultish fan club) so the question was merely rhetorical.
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