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Old 27th November 2018, 08:51 PM   #1
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/27/polit...gut/index.html

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"They're making a mistake because I have a gut and my gut tells me more sometimes than anybody else's brain can ever tell me."
I believe President Trump just said something that is true. I truly agree that his brain might not be influenced by other brains. It may be solely influenced by a purveyor of ****.
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Old 27th November 2018, 09:57 PM   #2
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Well he's right - he does have a gut, a fairly substantial one.

I'm surprised he isn't pinning this on Democrats, but maybe that will come.
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Old 28th November 2018, 12:04 AM   #3
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Well, besides his gut which is smarter than anyone else's brain, he has a "very high level of intelligence" which tells him climate change is just a Chinese hoax. After all, it was very cold on the East Coast this Thanksgiving
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Old 28th November 2018, 08:11 AM   #4
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Old 28th November 2018, 08:57 AM   #5
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There's probably more collective sentience from his intestinal bacteria than there is from his entire brain.
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Old 28th November 2018, 09:45 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by I Am The Scum View Post
There's probably more collective sentience from his intestinal bacteria than there is from his entire brain.
Since the individual in question utilizes his cranium the same way as he does his colon, there are likely just as many digestive flora in the skull as there are in the guts. Therefore the reasoning power is equal in both places, and he can boast of having twice as much guts as everyone else. Actually four or five times as much, considering the vastness of his equatorial circumference. This is the compliment thread, isn't it? I don't want to say anything unkind.
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Old 28th November 2018, 10:22 AM   #7
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The trouble is, his gut feelings are usually just gas or ****.
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Old 28th November 2018, 10:23 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Since the individual in question utilizes his cranium the same way as he does his colon, there are likely just as many digestive flora in the skull as there are in the guts. Therefore the reasoning power is equal in both places, and he can boast of having twice as much guts as everyone else. Actually four or five times as much, considering the vastness of his equatorial circumference. This is the compliment thread, isn't it? I don't want to say anything unkind.
I think the vast majority of the time, his cranium is inside his colon.
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Old 28th November 2018, 10:28 AM   #9
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Why?

Why, by this point, is anyone still bewildered or surprised by what he says?

He's the same person (persona, maybe?) as during the campaign. He's no more circumspect or temperate now that he's president.

It's sad that some of his supporters actually applaud this behaviour! Gotta poke a finger in the eye of some lieberals, don'tcha know..
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Old 28th November 2018, 10:32 AM   #10
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I donít mean this in a bad way, but is there a stupider person alive?
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Old 28th November 2018, 11:55 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin View Post
I donít mean this in a bad way, but is there a stupider person alive?
Except that... he's not stupid. Again, I'm not sure why people are surprised. He has a certain cunning used when dealing wih people, getting what he wants, etc.

He continuously makes ignorant statements, but not all of them are attributable to actual ignorance (I'm sure some are, but it's sometimes hard to suss out which are which).
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Old 28th November 2018, 12:11 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin View Post
I donít mean this in a bad way, but is there a stupider person alive?
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Except that... he's not stupid. Again, I'm not sure why people are surprised. He has a certain cunning used when dealing wih people, getting what he wants, etc.

He continuously makes ignorant statements, but not all of them are attributable to actual ignorance (I'm sure some are, but it's sometimes hard to suss out which are which).
What Jimbo said. I've said here many times that I don't think he's necessarily stupid, but he is the most profoundly ignorant person I've ever heard of. And you can't tell where the ignorance ends and the dishonesty begins. I don't think he can, either.
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Old 28th November 2018, 12:16 PM   #14
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Let's make all decision based on our gut feelings rather then evidence and facts. That always works out well.
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Old 28th November 2018, 12:17 PM   #15
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What Jimbo said. I've said here many times that I don't think he's necessarily stupid, but he is the most profoundly ignorant person I've ever heard of. And you can't tell where the ignorance ends and the dishonesty begins. I don't think he can, either.
Trump is a huckster, pure and simple.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Since the individual in question utilizes his cranium the same way as he does his colon, .

They may do the similar things, but his cranium spews crap in much greater volume then his colon.
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Originally Posted by Jimbo07 View Post
Except that... he's not stupid. Again, I'm not sure why people are surprised. He has a certain cunning used when dealing wih people, getting what he wants, etc.

He continuously makes ignorant statements, but not all of them are attributable to actual ignorance (I'm sure some are, but it's sometimes hard to suss out which are which).
Stupid and cunning aren't complete opposites.
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Old 28th November 2018, 01:50 PM   #18
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Well he's right - he does have a gut, a fairly substantial one.

I'm surprised he isn't pinning this on Democrats, but maybe that will come.
You OBVIOUSLY haven't seen the glowing reviews that all of his doctors have given him.

He doesn't have a gut, he's the most in shape POTUS we've ever had.
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I am no good at parodies, but somebody could do a great parody of the Rodgers and Hart classic song "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered" about the Trump regme.
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Old 28th November 2018, 01:56 PM   #20
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Stupid and cunning aren't complete opposites.
Fine. Do you prefer capable over cunning? Who's smarter, the skeptic, or the snakeoil salesman winning over the crowd? Who's more capable?

Beware of branding others as stupid. If nothing else, it can blunt perception of danger. Further, it makes one just as guilty of ignorant gross generalizations!
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You OBVIOUSLY haven't seen the glowing reviews that all of his doctors have given him.

He doesn't have a gut, he's the most in shape POTUS we've ever had.
His medical tests are all way POSITIVE!
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Fine. Do you prefer capable over cunning? Who's smarter, the skeptic, or the snakeoil salesman winning over the crowd? Who's more capable?

Beware of branding others as stupid. If nothing else, it can blunt perception of danger. Further, it makes one just as guilty of ignorant gross generalizations!
Stupid can be dangerous too.
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Typical, predictable, pathologic, narcissistic symptoms: blame someone else for anything negative.

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I don't think that Trump is stupid at all, he is ignorant about a lot of topics, and because of his narcissism he refuses to learn from anyone else, and so he remains ignorant about a lot of topics. Then when he speaks on those topics he just makes up rubbish that "feels right" to him, and because his supporters eat it up, he just keeps on going with it because he knows it works.
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Kind of like some middle managers in the IT industry...
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I don't think that Trump is stupid at all, he is ignorant about a lot of topics, and because of his narcissism he refuses to learn from anyone else, and so he remains ignorant about a lot of topics. Then when he speaks on those topics he just makes up rubbish that "feels right" to him, and because his supporters eat it up, he just keeps on going with it because he knows it works.
Sometimes his vocabulary is that of a not very bright person.
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Well it makes sense since he obviously doesn't use his brain much and it's no secret that his gut has been doing the talking all along.
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I don't think that Trump is stupid at all, he is ignorant about a lot of topics, and because of his narcissism he refuses to learn from anyone else, and so he remains ignorant about a lot of topics. Then when he speaks on those topics he just makes up rubbish that "feels right" to him, and because his supporters eat it up, he just keeps on going with it because he knows it works.
Intentionally stupid is worse than unintentionally stupid.
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He's the same person (persona, maybe?) as during the campaign.
And as during the preceding 30 years or so of his public life. I have no memory of a time that I've known of this jackwad when I wasn't disgusted by his boorish, crass, tacky, ignorant, manipulative, slimy persona. Anyone who wasn't familiar with him before the campaign certainly saw that on display routinely.

They voted for him anyway because something something emails.
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ďIím a gut player,Ē

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But you know what? Despite the many things he did which we might disagree with, say the Iraq war, he wasn't nearly so impetuous as the current President.

I thought that W was a terrible president. He had his moments, to be sure. Immediately after 9/11 he was honestly stellar. He worked hard to not make it us against Islam, and for that I respect him.

But he also made serious mistakes, including the whole Iraq war. I didn't understand that at all.

Still, I pine for the days of W. Because I think that he was somewhat thoughtful, somewhat reasonable. I think he made bad mistakes on occasion, but they weren't utterly random or transparently self-interested. He actually had a thought or two.
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But you know what? Despite the many things he did which we might disagree with, say the Iraq war, he wasn't nearly so impetuous as the current President.

I thought that W was a terrible president. He had his moments, to be sure. Immediately after 9/11 he was honestly stellar. He worked hard to not make it us against Islam, and for that I respect him.

But he also made serious mistakes, including the whole Iraq war. I didn't understand that at all.

Still, I pine for the days of W. Because I think that he was somewhat thoughtful, somewhat reasonable. I think he made bad mistakes on occasion, but they weren't utterly random or transparently self-interested. He actually had a thought or two.
I said at the time that GWB's greatest strength was that he was willing to listen to people who were smarter and knew more than he did (although I normally didn't agree with them of course).
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Sometimes his vocabulary is that of a not very bright person.
So... smart comes down to a vocabulary test? I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced Trump is stupid, either.

He's done and said things in public which seem:
- Ignorant
- Dishonest
- Inflammatory
- Incoherent (due to being)
- Extemporaneous...

... and I'm sure you can think of many more, but I don't think he's stupid (at least, in the ability to solve puzzles, etc.).
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So... smart comes down to a vocabulary test? I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced Trump is stupid, either.

He's done and said things in public which seem:
- Ignorant
- Dishonest
- Inflammatory
- Incoherent (due to being)
- Extemporaneous...

... and I'm sure you can think of many more, but I don't think he's stupid (at least, in the ability to solve puzzles, etc.).
Have we any evidence of him solving a puzzle?
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I think Trump is of average intelligence but too narcissistic to recognize it. His extreme narcissism is the root of his "stupid" behavior.
Saying that, his limited vocabulary, broken sentences, need to repeat things, and frequent wandering of topic give rise to great concern regarding declining mental fitness.
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Have we any evidence of him solving a puzzle?
You've got me there!

He could very well actually be stupid, and I have no evidence of him solving puzzles, but he managed to get himself elected to the highest office in the land, so no doubt, has some competencies.
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You've got me there!

He could very well actually be stupid, and I have no evidence of him solving puzzles, but he managed to get himself elected to the highest office in the land, so no doubt, has some competencies.
His competency is saying things that a substantial number of people agree with, and appearing wealthy and successful.

ETA: ...and, oh yes, his other competency was not being Hillary.
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His competency is saying things that a substantial number of ignorant and/or stupid people agree with, and appearing wealthy and successful.

ETA: ...and, oh yes, his other competency was not being Hillary.
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Have we any evidence of him solving a puzzle?
Puzzles? He's still working on "Umbrellas. How do they work?"


But he did a pretty good job on last weekend's Sunday Times puzzle.... "How to ignore the Global Warming report and spin it so Sarah's daddy's bible-thumping followers still vote for me?"
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Sometimes his vocabulary is that of a not very bright person.
Bright people tend to have better vocabs because they tend to read a lot. Trump isn't known for his interest in reading other people's opinions and work, unless they relate directly to him.
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Old 28th November 2018, 11:16 PM   #40
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He's not stupid. Stupidity implies a brain that is either functioning improperly or is simply very low quality. Trump has no brain, ergo he cannot be stupid. So his "gut instinct" is probably right. That's the only functioning cognitive piece of him that demonstrably remains.
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