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Old 13th April 2019, 12:43 PM   #3601
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Originally Posted by casebro View Post
Not dismissed, nor disposed of, they were "deferred". Not "demurred", maybe some posters are confused?
I think you are wrong on the deferred part. Plus, isn't a guilty plea required for a case to be deferred?
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Old 13th April 2019, 12:55 PM   #3602
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Originally Posted by jsfisher View Post
I think you are wrong on the deferred part. Plus, isn't a guilty plea required for a case to be deferred?
I think you're confusing what's supposed to happen with what Foxx's office actually did.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
I think you're confusing what's supposed to happen with what Foxx's office actually did.
Maybe, but all I can find are news reports that it wasn't deferred, and nothing to say it was.
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Old 14th April 2019, 10:15 AM   #3604
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At this point, Foxx’s Office isn’t going to reopen the case even if he admitted hoaxing. I think her office was convinced that the way they handled it would make it go away faster. If he is found liable in court for the civil damages and pays whatever fine the judge decides, I think everyone involved would be happy to let this fade away.
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Old 16th April 2019, 07:09 PM   #3605
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Reports now saying that Foxx has publicly released thousands of emails and texts about Smollett from within her department.
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Old 16th April 2019, 07:22 PM   #3606
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Various headlines are saying that Foxx remained involved even weeks after she said she recused herself. In her texts she says that Smollett is a washed up actor who lied to police, and she also says that 16 charges is excessive.
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Old 16th April 2019, 07:31 PM   #3607
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Foxx sent a text to Magats. She says a pedophile with 4 victims received 10 charges, while a "washed up celeb who lied to cops" gets 16 charges.
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Old 16th April 2019, 08:45 PM   #3608
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Assuming those reports are accurate as reported I have some sympathy for dropping the charges. It still rubs me the wrong way that he can publicly claim to be the victim. Hope the "washed up celeb" thing sticks.
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Old 17th April 2019, 05:15 AM   #3609
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The 16 charges were delivered by a grand jury indictment

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Foxx sent a text to Magats. She says a pedophile with 4 victims received 10 charges, while a "washed up celeb who lied to cops" gets 16 charges.

I see the comparison of the R. Kelly indictment, against the Jussie Smollet indictment, as a diversionary tactic.

A grand jury heard evidence from the prosecution, and delivered a 16 felony count "true bill" indictment, in the Smollett case.

Kim Foxx texted, "Sooo... I am recused, but when people accuse us of overcharging cases... 16 counts on a class 4 [felony] becomes exhibit A." (Highlights are mine, for emphasis).

Two issues with State's Attorney Foxx's quote:

First issue: Foxx she said she recused herself, but she did not. "When an elected State’s Attorney recuses herself from a prosecution, Illinois law provides that the court shall appoint a special prosecutor. See 55 ILCS 5/3-9008(a-15). Typically, the special prosecutor is a neighboring State’s Attorney, the Attorney General, or the State Appellate Prosecutor. Here, the State’s Attorney kept the case within her office and thus never actually recused herself as a matter of law." That's a quote from the Illinois Prosecutors Bar Association. 1

Second issue: A grand jury delivered a 16 felony count, "true bill" indictment, in the Smollet case, not the Cook County State's Attorney's Office, or the State's Attorney Kim Foxx, or the Chicago Police.

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1. "IPBA Statement on Jussie Smollett Case Dismissal." ilpba.org, 28 Mar 2019. Accessed from URL www. ilpba.org/announcements/7249825 17 April 2019.
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Old 19th April 2019, 01:41 PM   #3610
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Two officials from Foxx's office have just resigned. They aren't publicly claiming any connection between the resignations and the Smollett case, but it's hard to avoid the suspicion that they are.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/19/p...fice-smollett/
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Old 19th April 2019, 02:58 PM   #3611
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I already solved the case after learning that smollett was allegedly going to costar with zachary quinto for a play.

https://deadline.com/2019/04/jussie-...ng-1202597374/

sylar wanted top billing and tried to steal the super powers that made smollett the gay tupac.

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Old 19th April 2019, 03:23 PM   #3612
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I already solved the case after learning that smollett was allegedly going to costar with zachary quinto for a play.

https://deadline.com/2019/04/jussie-...ng-1202597374/

sylar wanted top billing and tried to steal the super powers that made smollett the gay tupac.
Huh. I guess Mumbles was right all along. This really is about racist whitey taking down a strong black man.
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Old 20th April 2019, 03:14 AM   #3613
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Huh. I guess Mumbles was right all along. This really is about racist whitey taking down a strong black man.
Of course, I criticized the a wildly corrupt mayor and multiracial police department, and like nearly every other black person in America, don't use the word "whitey", except when making fun of racist white people who incorrectly think that they (we) use that word.

So are you confused by the idea of a black police officer, or just flat out lying about what I said? I'd ask if you had any capability to actually listen to a black person and respond to what s/he said, but you really let the mask slip with that one word didn't you?
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Old 20th April 2019, 05:18 AM   #3614
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Tell me how you self-inflict a broken rib?
Run real fast into something hard and post like at chest height.
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Old 21st April 2019, 12:50 PM   #3615
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Of course, I criticized the a wildly corrupt mayor and multiracial police department, and like nearly every other black person in America, don't use the word "whitey", except when making fun of racist white people who incorrectly think that they (we) use that word.

So are you confused by the idea of a black police officer, or just flat out lying about what I said? I'd ask if you had any capability to actually listen to a black person and respond to what s/he said, but you really let the mask slip with that one word didn't you?
Wow. Seems like this word has way more stereotypes for you than it does for me.
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Wow. Seems like this word has way more stereotypes for you than it does for me.
If that poster is going to open that can of worms, I'm leveling a similar accusation again right back at them.

It seems they are incapable of listening to the opinion of any white person, projection is a wonderful thing.
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Old 21st April 2019, 07:59 PM   #3617
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So, now that both sadhatter and theprestige have clearly implied that they consider objections to sitting on video of unjustified shootings in order to help a mayor's reelection campaign, beating and tazing a school child without cause and lying about it, and attaching car batteries to peoples' genitals to force false confessions out of them to be blaming "racist whitey" when a black person states them, I think we can ignore their racist claptrap and move on.

Incoming mayor Lori Lightfoot seems to be wavering a bit on the issue - while she has previously said that Smollett should pay a price, she has also said that she doesn't consider this to be "a matter of any importance" recently, and considers it to be something Emanuel did. I personally wonder whether or not she'll continue with the suit based on this...

(Smollett's brother also had some recent comments supporting Jussie - I don't consider these to be all that important, due to obvious bias.)
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Old 21st April 2019, 09:38 PM   #3618
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(Smollett's brother also had some recent comments supporting Jussie - I don't consider these to be all that important, due to obvious bias.)
Yeah, I read that article where he asked “what if Jussie is telling the truth” and it really got me to thinking.

https://www.bet.com/celebrities/news...o-smollet.html

What if O.J. is telling the truth?

What if Scott Peterson is telling the truth?

What if Casey Anthony is telling the truth?

What if a frog had wings? (from McCabe and Mrs. Miller)

Article just got me to thinking.😁
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Old 23rd April 2019, 09:03 AM   #3619
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"Nigerian brothers" sue Smollett attorneys for defamation

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Two Lakeview Chicago men who police and prosecutors said helped TV star Jussie Smollett stage a bogus hate crime on Jan. 29th have filed a defamation suit against the actor’s Hollywood-based attorneys.

The complaint filed this morning in Chicago’s federal courthouse seeks more than $75,000 each for Olabinjo “Ola” Osundairo and Abimbola “Bola” Osundairo from attorneys Mark Geragos and Tina Glandian as well as the Geragos & Geragos Law Firm.

Geragos and Glandian are accused of making defamatory public statements against the brothers that were published by local media outlets. Throughout the 16-page filing, lawyers for the Osundairos allege that the comments made by Geragos and Glandian went beyond legal representation as the criminal case against Smollett had been resolved when the actor's attorneys made the allegedly defamatory claims.

The suit focuses on statements made by Smollett’s legal team after criminal charges were wrapped up in a secretive and controversial emergency court hearing on March 26th.

“Faced with an outraged public,” the suit claims, Geragos and Glandian “doubled down” by accusing the Osundairos of leading “a criminally homophobic, racist and violent attack” against Smollett.

Geragos and Glandian “made these comments knowing they were untrue to distract from Mr. Smollett’s farce and to promote themselves and the Geragos & Geragos Law Firm,” the suit alleges...
http://www.cwbchicago.com/2019/04/ni...-smollett.html

Link to the lawsuit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iqw...2uS8_Wl-3/view
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Old 23rd April 2019, 09:16 AM   #3620
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Is the 'more than 75,000' mean that they are asking for $75,500.00?

Or is that a level of lawsuit? Meaning any amount over $75,000 falls into the level of lawsuit.

In other words would a lawsuit seeking 3,000,000.00 fall into the category of the court of over $75,000?

Small claims court for example is anything under $X,XXX , is over 75k a specific category?
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Old 23rd April 2019, 10:13 AM   #3621
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So, now that both sadhatter and theprestige have clearly implied that they consider objections to sitting on video of unjustified shootings in order to help a mayor's reelection campaign, beating and tazing a school child without cause and lying about it, and attaching car batteries to peoples' genitals to force false confessions out of them to be blaming "racist whitey" when a black person states them, I think we can ignore their racist claptrap and move on.
That's a lot of waffle, just to say: sadhatter and theprestige are racist whiteys
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"Nigerian brothers" sue Smollett attorneys for defamation



http://www.cwbchicago.com/2019/04/ni...-smollett.html

Link to the lawsuit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iqw...2uS8_Wl-3/view
Geragos and Glandian are both white. And they defamed black men. Coincidence?
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Old 23rd April 2019, 11:00 AM   #3623
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Originally Posted by Drewbot View Post
Is the 'more than 75,000' mean that they are asking for $75,500.00?

Or is that a level of lawsuit? Meaning any amount over $75,000 falls into the level of lawsuit.

In other words would a lawsuit seeking 3,000,000.00 fall into the category of the court of over $75,000?

Small claims court for example is anything under $X,XXX , is over 75k a specific category?
$75,000 is a lower bound needed to get into federal court. Perhaps moving it to the federal level was the reason.
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Judge rips top Chicago prosecutor Kim Foxx for Jussie Smollett special treatment

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A judge thinks Chicago State’s Attorney Kim Foxx is a hypocrite for prosecuting an ordinary citizen for filing a false police report — while letting “movie star” Jussie Smollett walk away scot-free for committing the same crime, a report said.
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Candace Clark, 21, had an April 11 hearing, with Cook County State's Attorney's office prosecuting. Clark was charged with felony disorderly conduct for allegedly filing a false police report.

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the prosecutor assigned to the case had filled out paperwork for a “deferred prosecution,” which would have required Clark to pay back approximately $2,500 — as well as attend periodic court hearings, get a G.E.D. and either show proof of a job or do community service, said Wendy Schilling, Clark’s assistant public defender.
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According to a transcript obtained by FOX 32, Judge Martin hammered prosecutors, asking, “I’d like to know why Ms. Clark is being treated differently than Jussie Smollett. It’s a disorderly conduct case. A lot less egregious than Mr. Smollett’s case. I have a problem with it.”
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“Ms. Clark is not a movie star, she doesn’t have a high-priced lawyer,” Martin railed.

“And this smells big time. Your office created this mess. There’s no publicity on this case. Press gets ahold of this; it’ll be the newspaper.”
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1, 4. Fonrouge, Gabrielle. "Judge rips top Chicago prosecutor Kim Foxx for Jussie Smollett special treatment" Page Six. 25 April 2019. pagesix.com/2019/04/25/judge-rips-top-chicago-prosecutor-kim-foxx-for-jussie-smollett-special-treatment/ Accessed 25 April 2019.

2. "Judge wants to know: Jussie Smollett gets a break, so why not Home Depot worker?" Chicago Sun Times. 25 April 2019. chicago.suntimes.com/news/candace-clark-filing-false-report-jussie-smollett-plea-deal/ Accessed 25 April 2019.

3. Placko, Dane. "Judge accuses Kim Foxx's office of double standard after Jussie Smollett case" Fox 32 Chicago. 24 April 2019. fox32chicago.com/news/local/judge-accuses-kim-foxx-s-office-of-double-standard-after-jussie-smollett-case Accessed 25 April 2019.
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Candace Clark, 21, had an April 11 hearing, with Cook County State's Attorney's office prosecuting. Clark was charged with felony disorderly conduct for allegedly filing a false police report.



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1, 4. Fonrouge, Gabrielle. "Judge rips top Chicago prosecutor Kim Foxx for Jussie Smollett special treatment" Page Six. 25 April 2019. pagesix.com/2019/04/25/judge-rips-top-chicago-prosecutor-kim-foxx-for-jussie-smollett-special-treatment/ Accessed 25 April 2019.



2. "Judge wants to know: Jussie Smollett gets a break, so why not Home Depot worker?" Chicago Sun Times. 25 April 2019. chicago.suntimes.com/news/candace-clark-filing-false-report-jussie-smollett-plea-deal/ Accessed 25 April 2019.



3. Placko, Dane. "Judge accuses Kim Foxx's office of double standard after Jussie Smollett case" Fox 32 Chicago. 24 April 2019. fox32chicago.com/news/local/judge-accuses-kim-foxx-s-office-of-double-standard-after-jussie-smollett-case Accessed 25 April 2019.
Corrupt as all ****. Foxx needs to pay for being a lying corrupt ********.
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1, 4. Fonrouge, Gabrielle. "Judge rips top Chicago prosecutor Kim Foxx for Jussie Smollett special treatment" Page Six. 25 April 2019. pagesix.com/2019/04/25/judge-rips-top-chicago-prosecutor-kim-foxx-for-jussie-smollett-special-treatment/ Accessed 25 April 2019.

2. "Judge wants to know: Jussie Smollett gets a break, so why not Home Depot worker?" Chicago Sun Times. 25 April 2019. chicago.suntimes.com/news/candace-clark-filing-false-report-jussie-smollett-plea-deal/ Accessed 25 April 2019.

3. Placko, Dane. "Judge accuses Kim Foxx's office of double standard after Jussie Smollett case" Fox 32 Chicago. 24 April 2019. fox32chicago.com/news/local/judge-accuses-kim-foxx-s-office-of-double-standard-after-jussie-smollett-case Accessed 25 April 2019.
That's actually somewhat worrisome, thanks.

As I understand it...Smollett did forfeit his bail payment, and has done community service already. This *may* be the reason for the difference between the two cases, although it sounds like Clarke isn't being threatened with decades in jail, which is what Rahm Emanuel and the CPD were screaming for in Smolett's case. Still, there *is* a difference in what the two are expected to do, and it's definitely worth asking why.
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Looking like he's going to be written out completely now...
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Looking like he's going to be written out completely now...


I'm thinking they kill him with a plane crash while on his honeymoon.

https://www.etonline.com/empire-rene...-return-124340
Killed in a race related mugging gone wrong.
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he'll be back when they think everyone is over it.
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Extending his option for season 6, even without any plans to bring him back, does seem like a pragmatic hedging of bets. If this does blow over, they still have him on tap. If it doesn't, they're not at any greater risk than they are now.
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If he changes genders then Jessie Smollett never existed...right?
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Judge orders the case be unsealed:

https://abc7chicago.com/judge-rules-...case-/5313749/

https://twitter.com/jmetr22b/status/...7810091139072/
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Old 23rd May 2019, 03:31 PM   #3633
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Maybe we can finally learn if Jussie made a lie, or if Brutal White MAGA had struck again.

We need some form of closure. To go forwards. With our country. With our lives.
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****'s about to get horrifying for somebody
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I love it when judges get salty. Legal salt is the best.
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If Foxx and smollett are implicated with corruption and ******** will anything come of it? or will Americas legal system just shrug, pay out some compensation if it really really has to and move on with nothing learned? (As usual)
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Old 23rd May 2019, 05:23 PM   #3637
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If Foxx and smollett are implicated with corruption and ******** will anything come of it? or will Americas legal system just shrug, pay out some compensation if it really really has to and move on with nothing learned? (As usual)
Conventional wisdom says that he is black, so he will be run mercilessly through the grinder with an unholy vengeance. Me, I say he's got some coin and corporate backing and will walk away relatively unscathed. We shall see
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horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
I love it when judges get salty. Legal salt is the best.


Yes sir. Looking forward to reading this.
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Old 24th May 2019, 09:00 AM   #3639
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
I love it when judges get salty. Legal salt is the best.
(different case)

https://i.imgur.com/7C3n9LR.png

also

Quote:
MR. K. LANDAU: Your Honor--

MR. MUNOZ: You asked the question --

MR. K. LANDAU: You interrupted me first.

MR. MUNOZ: You asked the question --

THE COURT: You want to be thrown out of here?

MR. K. LANDAU: No.

THE COURT: One more time. In fact, I won't throw you out, I'll hold you in contempt. I'm serious. Cuffs on, in prison.
www.lolsuit.com for more

Can't wait to see what was sealed

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Can't wait to see what was sealed
The court filings released yesterday are uninteresting.

But the police reports (not yet released) should be interesting. Top Cop said that there is a lot more evidence showing Smollett's guilt than has already been publicly released and leaked.

But then we have already seen plenty enough to know that it was all a hoax planned by him.
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