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In that part of the city, streets have an upper and a lower. The street is Water St. East of State St. makes it "East Water Street." Being the Lower Level makes it "Lower East Water Street."
The lower level streets really help downtown Chicago traffic, as they keep a lot of utility and delivery trucks below the surface traffic. I recently parked down by this spot to go to dinner; there are a lot of easy metered parking spots, because people don't know how or don't want to go underground. ![]() I'm in downtown Chicago today, and several people are wearing ski masks and even ski goggles. The wind chill is like 50 below. They are literally setting the train tracks on fire to warm them up. If someone put a noose around my neck, and I escaped that situation, I think that I would remove it post haste. I know that this is a lame, anecdotal argument from incredulity, but there you go. You can't draw a conclusion by the late hour, because these shows often shoot super late when the streets are empty. Empire, Chicago Fire/PD, etc. I doubt that the Empire guy was doing a full on Morton Downey Jr. nazi attack hoax, but I will confess that it crossed my mind when I heard that Chicago was "MAGA country," lol. Tell that to our 16 mayoral candidates. |
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Chicago police investigating assault on Jussie Smollett identify two 'persons of interest' on security footage from the night he says he was beaten, after earlier claiming they could not find anyone
Originally Posted by Daily Mail
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As cultural anthropologists have always said "human culture" = "human nature". You might as well put a fish on the moon to test how it "swims naturally" without the "influence of water". -Earthborn |
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In any thread, in any situation, we have to wait for facts. We all know that here.
But what is hilarious is how many posters in this thread tried to use that as cover for being racist... and failed miserably at it. We know from past threads who you are. We know when you chose to be extra careful special skeptical (racist). Your oh so convenient super cautiousness in specific threads is not a coincidence and is not lost on the careful reader. The worst ones of the bunch are the ones that do it all the time even though they claim to be Democrats. We expect this crap from Republicans in every single news story that involves a black person. We can deal with that. But when supposed Democrats do it it normalizes the Republicans doing it. It is shameful. And, again, as I said in my opening sentence. In any thread, in any situation, we have to wait for facts. We all know that here. It is possible that this specific story was a hoax. But we can easily separate the posters that have healthy skepticism from those that have their oh so convenient (and confident!) extra careful special super cautious skepticism |
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And what is even more rich is that they think their act works. They don't understand how transparent it is because of Dunning–Kruger.
They will even read my post above and say "You can't possibly know that for sure!" While failing to realize that that is exactly what they are doing. |
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I laughed when the "skeptic" declared that people who doubt this silly story are racist.
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"The thief and the murderer follow nature just as much as the philanthropist. Cosmic evolution may teach us how the good and the evil tendencies of man may have come about; but, in itself, it is incompetent to furnish any better reason why what we call good is preferable to what we call evil than we had before." "Evolution and Ethics" T.H. Huxley (1893) |
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The case is broken!
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...130-story.html What a ******* clown show. /maybe they could use one of the detectives to locate the 5 guys shown in crystal clear pictures that have been strong arming women in the area? Ha! Just joking. Pointing that out is probably racist. |
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Gone full white sheet and hood, have we? That is the most blatant thing you've managed to sneak through (probably because everyone was busy looking at the news about the police having persons of interest).
The similarities between these degenerate punks and Obama are what? Well there's their skin color. And then there's their skin color. And if that isn't evidence enough, there's always their skin color. Here come the pretend skeptics on the right to condemn this for the abject bigotry that it is. (I'm kidding, they're all hiding in other threads because they made such fools of themselves.)
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As cultural anthropologists have always said "human culture" = "human nature". You might as well put a fish on the moon to test how it "swims naturally" without the "influence of water". -Earthborn |
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Yep those two guys look white to me in that picture kind of sort of maybe probably
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Huh, the dozen detectives working on this and they release a single still from a video camera?
Sounds legit, they were probably goose stepping, because MAGA COUNTRY! |
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Sorry, there were two pictures!
The other one was worse. They were walking in the wrong direction from the alleged incident a half an hour earlier. Sounds legit. Hey Jake, forget it, is #blackliesmatter |
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The two aren't mutually exclusive. You interjected a totally unrelated story into this thread and are now insinuating that I'm distracting everyone by ignoring your story that shouldn't have been here?
I don't ignore stories about groups of marauding teens mugging people. I don't put them front and center because they're rather common. Sadly, they seem to be more common in Chicago, but I'm willing to bet that's not statistical but due to media saturation. What's most interesting to me, however, is that you grab a story that has only ONE factor about the perps known. That which is visible. And that, of course is dominated by their skin color. You segue that into "future community organizers". Tell us who you meant by that? Do they remind you of Bill Ayers? Saul Alinsky? Could it be OBAMA! Scurrilous! |
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#183 |
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Like I said, there's a reason people just ignore the Black Hebrew Israelites...
Anyway, the photos are a lead - not much of one, but possibly enough to get another tip or two. And hey, maybe those two are innocent, in which case they should find a lawyer, and talk to the cops with their lawyers present. Yeah, I know, not everyone can afford to just "get a lawyer". That's a flaw with our system. |
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So the police have located two unidentified people who were in the vicinity within 30 minutes of the alleged attack. Looks like I have to take it back, these hundreds of man-hours of investigation are really paying off.
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So we have a phone call that exactly pinpoints the time of the attack.
We should then be able to positively rule the two people in the still image, in or out, because the exact time of that image is also known. So I would say the people in the still are almost certainly unrelated to the attack, because the police must know the timing of events. The police most likely just want to know if they saw or heard anything. |
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Sometimes people fake rapes, robberies, and yes, even murders (or at least, try to create a false murderer). As This is the End said, it's telling that some members become extremely skeptical for a very particular type of hate crime, while accepting others even when the known evidence is laughable or entirely against the claim (remember "the knockout game", or the claim that Trayvon Martin was "gay-bashing"?)
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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Not clear on this whole story. Do I have this right?
He claims to have suffered a racist attack around 2AM, where bleach is thrown on him and a cord is put noose-style around his neck. Goes to friend's house, who calls police around 2:35. Cops show up around 2:45. He still has the cord around his neck and is sitting with clothes soaked in bleach? I mean, 45 minutes later, up and walking around? eta: I guess it was cold out, so primarily his outer coat would have gotten hit with bleach. So he took off his coat (presumably, being indoors) but left this cord around his neck the whole time? |
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CBS News reports that surveillance video, obtained by police, shows Smollett walking around but doesn’t show an attack/assault. Chicago police tell CBS News that they don’t yet physical evidence proving the crime happened, but police have not said the claims are untrue.
The Chicago PD have put more resources into this ******** than any murder this year. |
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"The thief and the murderer follow nature just as much as the philanthropist. Cosmic evolution may teach us how the good and the evil tendencies of man may have come about; but, in itself, it is incompetent to furnish any better reason why what we call good is preferable to what we call evil than we had before." "Evolution and Ethics" T.H. Huxley (1893) |
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Local reporter Rob Eglas has been following the story
Here is his twitter feed Let me clarify. On one camera the "persons of interest" are seated at a bench. ACROSS the same street, Smollett is seen walking. Smollett is recorded on that different camera walking. The "persons of interest" are also seen walking, but on the other side of the same street. "The next time Smollett is seen on surveillance camera, he is entering a condo building. Police say he now has a rope around his neck and is "wearing it like a neck tie". About a minute (maybe less) has passed since he was seen on video." Plus, and I warn you to brace yourselves: the photo they cops released has resulted in no leads at all! Hahahaha!! |
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Sure, as you do. Attacked at 2am by two men shouting "This is MAGA country!", then walks around for 30 minutes covered in bleach, wearing a rope around his neck 'like a neck tie' and with a cracked rib.
Fortunately it has emerged that he was on the phone to his manager when the attack took place, and the manager heard the attackers shout, "This is MAGA country." Unfortunately he is declining to hand this piece of crucial evidence to the police. Again, as you do. |
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Our fair hero also walked directly past security at his friends condo building, without mentioning the attack that took place a minute earlier.
Sounds totally legit. the CPD ought to send a ******* bill to the producers of Empire for wasting our ******* time. |
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Breaking: Jussie's music manager legit heard his attackers CLEARLY yell out "This is MAGA Country"!
Totes Horrifying! In other totally and completely unrelated news, Jussie's scheduled to sing this saturday! yay. |
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