Anti-Muslim Terrorist Attack in... NZ?

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 06:59 PM

It appears we have an active shooter at mosques in Christchurch, who has killed several people.

I'll keep updating as more is known.

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 07:01 PM

Not only is the shooter still at large, current reports have shots at Christchurch Hospital, where the injured are being taken.

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 07:04 PM

Crikey, the site of the mosque at the centre of the attack is next to Hagley Park.

I hope the cricket's ok for tomorrow.

deadrose · 14th March 2019, 07:06 PM

My condolences to NZ.

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 07:06 PM

The Bangladesh team is safe.

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 07:06 PM

Update says that the shooting was with an automatic weapon (very rare in NZ) and went on for at least several minutes. The city is fairly well locked down everywhere.

Cop chopper is looking for the perp now - still at large.

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 07:12 PM

Update saying there were 2-300 people in the mosque at prayer, with possibly most of them at least injured.

Truly bizarre, this kind of stuff doesn't happen here.

But if it was going to, it was going to be in Christchurch.

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 07:18 PM

Certainly a lot of ambulances and stretchers going into Christchurch Hospital.

Going by the calmness of the people there I'd say the hospital is safe.

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 07:19 PM

There's a report of a bomb in a car on Strickland St.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...-incident-live

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 07:24 PM

Damn, when we hit the international news desks we hit it hard.

William Parcher · 14th March 2019, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by The Atheist

shooting was with an automatic weapon (very rare in NZ)

Is that fully automatic (machine gun), or semi-auto?

Wow there are a lot of injured and there must be deaths it would seem.

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 07:33 PM

ABC: Christchurch mosque shooting sees armed police deployed and schools in lockdown; up to a dozen injured

BBC: New Zealand mosque shooting: Active shooter reported at Christchurch mosque

CNN: Reported mass shooting at mosque in New Zealand city of Christchurch

What we know so far:

Quote:

At 1:40pm a gunman entered the Masjid Al Noor Mosque in central Christchurch and opened fire
There are reports of casualties with local media are reporting at least six dead, though police have not confirmed the number of those injured or dead.
This is an active shooter situation, with police responding to more gunshots fired at other locations across the city.
The city remains under lockdown, with central Christchurch evacuated, children who were participating in the climate strikes were evacuated, schools are under lockdown.
Police have confirmed to the Guardian that there is a bomb in a car that has crashed on Strickland Street in the city. People are being evacuated from the area.
Police are entering properties in Deyell Crescent, they are telling evacuees “you don’t want to know what is happening”.
Prime minister Jacinda Ardern cancelled all her afternoon activities and is set to address media at 4pm local time (in about half an hour).

source, just now.

cullennz · 14th March 2019, 07:34 PM

Hagley mosque and Linwood mosque simultaneousy at Friday prayer time.

Multiple magazines and multiple casualties.

Geezes

All schools, council buildings in lockdown.

cullennz · 14th March 2019, 07:36 PM

Reports from people in the mosque say they think 20-30 dead/badly injured

Stacko · 14th March 2019, 07:37 PM

The shooter livestreamed the shooting on Facebook.

cullennz · 14th March 2019, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Stacko

The shooter livestreamed the shooting on Facebook.

I have seen what is apparently their Twitter

Nutjob

William Parcher · 14th March 2019, 07:42 PM

I don't know anything about the religious situation in New Zealand. Are there many people there who hate Muslims and want to kill them? If so, are the haters Christians or Jewish, or what?

cullennz · 14th March 2019, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

I don't know anything about the religious situation in New Zealand. Are there many people there who hate Muslims and want to kill them? If so, are the haters Christians or Jewish, or what?

Not really to speak of.

We are one of the most non religious country's in the world

We have racists like every where. But they all tend to get sheepish when called on it

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

Is that fully automatic (machine gun), or semi-auto?

That claim was a full auto, but I expect it will be a semi.

Originally Posted by William Parcher

Wow there are a lot of injured and there must be deaths it would seem.

Hard to tell - the cops have released very little information, but the numbers going to the hospital don't seem to be in the dozens so far.

Originally Posted by cullennz

Reports from people in the mosque say they think 20-30 dead/badly injured

I heard 20-30 on the ground.

Originally Posted by William Parcher

I don't know anything about the religious situation in New Zealand. Are there many people there who hate Muslims and want to kill them? If so, are the haters Christians or Jewish, or what?

None of the above, usually. We're largely religious-mania free.

Clearly a planned attack at the worst time.

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

Is that fully automatic (machine gun), or semi-auto?

Early reports said automatic. That hasn't been repeated as far as I can see. It would be VERY unusual if that were the case. I think it's far more likely to be semi-auto, but nothing has been confirmed yet.

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

I have seen what is apparently their Twitter

Nutjob

They're saying that's definitely his.

Just another complete WS loony.

Where the hell did he get the gun? I wouldn't want to be the bloke who sold it to him.

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 07:50 PM

Holy crap - the guy was so extreme he got booted off Mega back when Kim Dotcom owned it.

Some heads at the SIS will be rolling here.

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 07:54 PM

The #1 reporter at the hospital reckons 20-25 ambulances have arrived at hospital and none in the past half hour or so.

Casualties may hopefully have been overstated.

Was wearing camo gear... (David Gray have any living relatives?)

William Parcher · 14th March 2019, 07:54 PM

From Wikipedia...

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Christianity is the predominant religion in New Zealand, although its society is among the most secular in the world. In the 2013 census, 55.0% of the population identified with one or more religions, including 49.0% identifying as Christians. Another 41.9% indicated that they had no religion. The main Christian denominations are, by number of adherents, Roman Catholicism (12.6%), Anglicanism (11.8%), Presbyterianism (8.5%) and "Christian not further defined" (i.e. people identifying as Christian but not stating the denomination, 5.5%). The Māori-based Ringatū and Rātana religions (1.4%) are also Christian in origin. Immigration and demographic change in recent decades has contributed to the growth of minority religions, such as Hinduism (2.1%), Buddhism (1.5%), Islam (1.2%) and Sikhism (0.5%). The Auckland Region exhibited the greatest religious diversity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand

So, it's 49% Christian and 1.2% Islam.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 07:54 PM

I have sort of skimmed through the thread, but latest reports are 9 dead

William Parcher · 14th March 2019, 07:56 PM

This is one attacker?

He's shooting up the mosque and then the hospital and then the car bomb is his too?

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 07:59 PM

Two Mosques attacked, this is a terrorist act.

cullennz · 14th March 2019, 07:59 PM

Geezes

Radio live saying a newshub source says at least 27 dead so far.

Reliability of source hope not good

Cops said they have caught one

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

This is one attacker?

He's shooting up the mosque and then the hospital and then the car bomb is his too?

We don't know yet. This is an ongoing, active situation. Check my links upthread for live blogs.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 08:03 PM

NZ Herald is saying that they have a shooter in custody. The guy claiming responsibility is a Australian!

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 08:05 PM

Quote:

The man said he did not originally plan to carry out the attack in New Zealand. He said he came to New Zealand temporarily to plan and train.

"I soon found out that New Zealand was as target rich of an environment as anywhere
else in the West," he wrote.

"Secondly an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth of the assault on our civilisation, that no where in the world was safe, the invaders were in all of our lands, even in the remotest areas of the world and that there was no where left to go that was safe and free from mass immigration."

This is Terrorism, plain and simply. Also a hate crime.

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 08:07 PM

Yes, one suspect in custody, confirmed by the PM.

Checkmite · 14th March 2019, 08:08 PM

The gunman shot up one mosque, and then another a few minutes later. The hospital was placed on lockdown but as yet officials haven't said anything about any shooting there, or anywhere else except the two mosques. The hospital lockdown was precautionary perhaps.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 08:08 PM

Police are saying there may have been at least 2 gunmen.

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

This is Terrorism, plain and simply. Also a hate crime.

What's the source on that quote?

Skeptic Ginger · 14th March 2019, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

What's the source on that quote?

Common sense?

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 08:11 PM

Worse day since Aramoana

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Common sense?

No, the quote that PhantomWolf quoted, which doesn't nest inside another quote.

ETA: This one:

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

Quote:

The man said he did not originally plan to carry out the attack in New Zealand. He said he came to New Zealand temporarily to plan and train.

"I soon found out that New Zealand was as target rich of an environment as anywhere
else in the West," he wrote.

"Secondly an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth of the assault on our civilisation, that no where in the world was safe, the invaders were in all of our lands, even in the remotest areas of the world and that there was no where left to go that was safe and free from mass immigration."

William Parcher · 14th March 2019, 08:12 PM

NZ Herald has photos. He brought multiple guns including shotguns.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12213076

William Parcher · 14th March 2019, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

No, the quote that PhantomWolf quoted, which doesn't nest inside another quote.

NZ Herald says...

Quote:

In a 74-page manifesto published online he outlined who he was and why he carried out the massacre at the Christchurch mosque.

So his manifesto is online and that's where that quote comes from?

14th March 2019, 06:59 PM	#1
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,010	Anti-Muslim Terrorist Attack in... NZ? It appears we have an active shooter at mosques in Christchurch, who has killed several people. I'll keep updating as more is known.
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14th March 2019, 07:01 PM	#2
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,010	Not only is the shooter still at large, current reports have shots at Christchurch Hospital, where the injured are being taken.
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14th March 2019, 07:04 PM	#3
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,010	Crikey, the site of the mosque at the centre of the attack is next to Hagley Park. I hope the cricket's ok for tomorrow.
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14th March 2019, 07:06 PM	#6
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,010	Update says that the shooting was with an automatic weapon (very rare in NZ) and went on for at least several minutes. The city is fairly well locked down everywhere. Cop chopper is looking for the perp now - still at large.
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14th March 2019, 07:12 PM	#7
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,010	Update saying there were 2-300 people in the mosque at prayer, with possibly most of them at least injured. Truly bizarre, this kind of stuff doesn't happen here. But if it was going to, it was going to be in Christchurch.
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14th March 2019, 07:06 PM	#4
deadrose Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the wet side of the mountains Posts: 3,060	My condolences to NZ.

14th March 2019, 07:06 PM	#5
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location, Location Posts: 61,156	The Bangladesh team is safe.

14th March 2019, 07:18 PM	#8
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,010	Certainly a lot of ambulances and stretchers going into Christchurch Hospital. Going by the calmness of the people there I'd say the hospital is safe.
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14th March 2019, 07:19 PM	#9
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location, Location Posts: 61,156	There's a report of a bomb in a car on Strickland St. https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...-incident-live

14th March 2019, 07:24 PM	#10
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14th March 2019, 07:32 PM	#11
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,326	Originally Posted by The Atheist shooting was with an automatic weapon (very rare in NZ) Is that fully automatic (machine gun), or semi-auto? Wow there are a lot of injured and there must be deaths it would seem.
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14th March 2019, 07:33 PM	#12
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location, Location Posts: 61,156	ABC: Christchurch mosque shooting sees armed police deployed and schools in lockdown; up to a dozen injured BBC: New Zealand mosque shooting: Active shooter reported at Christchurch mosque CNN: Reported mass shooting at mosque in New Zealand city of Christchurch What we know so far: Quote: At 1:40pm a gunman entered the Masjid Al Noor Mosque in central Christchurch and opened fire There are reports of casualties with local media are reporting at least six dead, though police have not confirmed the number of those injured or dead. This is an active shooter situation, with police responding to more gunshots fired at other locations across the city. The city remains under lockdown, with central Christchurch evacuated, children who were participating in the climate strikes were evacuated, schools are under lockdown. Police have confirmed to the Guardian that there is a bomb in a car that has crashed on Strickland Street in the city. People are being evacuated from the area. Police are entering properties in Deyell Crescent, they are telling evacuees “you don’t want to know what is happening”. Prime minister Jacinda Ardern cancelled all her afternoon activities and is set to address media at 4pm local time (in about half an hour). source, just now.

14th March 2019, 07:34 PM	#13
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 15,037	Hagley mosque and Linwood mosque simultaneousy at Friday prayer time. Multiple magazines and multiple casualties. Geezes All schools, council buildings in lockdown.
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14th March 2019, 07:36 PM	#14
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 15,037	Reports from people in the mosque say they think 20-30 dead/badly injured
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14th March 2019, 07:37 PM	#15
Stacko Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,770	The shooter livestreamed the shooting on Facebook.

14th March 2019, 07:42 PM	#16
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 15,037	Originally Posted by Stacko The shooter livestreamed the shooting on Facebook. I have seen what is apparently their Twitter Nutjob
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14th March 2019, 07:45 PM	#18
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 15,037	Originally Posted by William Parcher I don't know anything about the religious situation in New Zealand. Are there many people there who hate Muslims and want to kill them? If so, are the haters Christians or Jewish, or what? Not really to speak of. We are one of the most non religious country's in the world We have racists like every where. But they all tend to get sheepish when called on it
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14th March 2019, 07:47 PM	#19
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,010	Originally Posted by William Parcher Is that fully automatic (machine gun), or semi-auto? That claim was a full auto, but I expect it will be a semi. Originally Posted by William Parcher Wow there are a lot of injured and there must be deaths it would seem. Hard to tell - the cops have released very little information, but the numbers going to the hospital don't seem to be in the dozens so far. Originally Posted by cullennz Reports from people in the mosque say they think 20-30 dead/badly injured I heard 20-30 on the ground. Originally Posted by William Parcher I don't know anything about the religious situation in New Zealand. Are there many people there who hate Muslims and want to kill them? If so, are the haters Christians or Jewish, or what? None of the above, usually. We're largely religious-mania free. Clearly a planned attack at the worst time.
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14th March 2019, 07:48 PM	#21
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,010	Originally Posted by cullennz I have seen what is apparently their Twitter Nutjob They're saying that's definitely his. Just another complete WS loony. Where the hell did he get the gun? I wouldn't want to be the bloke who sold it to him.
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14th March 2019, 07:50 PM	#22
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,010	Holy crap - the guy was so extreme he got booted off Mega back when Kim Dotcom owned it. Some heads at the SIS will be rolling here.
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14th March 2019, 07:54 PM	#23
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,010	The #1 reporter at the hospital reckons 20-25 ambulances have arrived at hospital and none in the past half hour or so. Casualties may hopefully have been overstated. Was wearing camo gear... (David Gray have any living relatives?)
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14th March 2019, 07:54 PM	#24
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,326	From Wikipedia... Originally Posted by Wikipedia Christianity is the predominant religion in New Zealand, although its society is among the most secular in the world. In the 2013 census, 55.0% of the population identified with one or more religions, including 49.0% identifying as Christians. Another 41.9% indicated that they had no religion. The main Christian denominations are, by number of adherents, Roman Catholicism (12.6%), Anglicanism (11.8%), Presbyterianism (8.5%) and "Christian not further defined" (i.e. people identifying as Christian but not stating the denomination, 5.5%). The Māori-based Ringatū and Rātana religions (1.4%) are also Christian in origin. Immigration and demographic change in recent decades has contributed to the growth of minority religions, such as Hinduism (2.1%), Buddhism (1.5%), Islam (1.2%) and Sikhism (0.5%). The Auckland Region exhibited the greatest religious diversity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand So, it's 49% Christian and 1.2% Islam.
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14th March 2019, 07:54 PM	#25
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,248	I have sort of skimmed through the thread, but latest reports are 9 dead
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14th March 2019, 07:56 PM	#26
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,326	This is one attacker? He's shooting up the mosque and then the hospital and then the car bomb is his too?
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14th March 2019, 07:59 PM	#27
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,248	Two Mosques attacked, this is a terrorist act.
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14th March 2019, 08:03 PM	#30
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,248	NZ Herald is saying that they have a shooter in custody. The guy claiming responsibility is a Australian!
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14th March 2019, 08:05 PM	#31
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,248	Quote: The man said he did not originally plan to carry out the attack in New Zealand. He said he came to New Zealand temporarily to plan and train. "I soon found out that New Zealand was as target rich of an environment as anywhere else in the West," he wrote. "Secondly an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth of the assault on our civilisation, that no where in the world was safe, the invaders were in all of our lands, even in the remotest areas of the world and that there was no where left to go that was safe and free from mass immigration." This is Terrorism, plain and simply. Also a hate crime.
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14th March 2019, 08:07 PM	#32
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location, Location Posts: 61,156	Yes, one suspect in custody, confirmed by the PM.

14th March 2019, 08:08 PM	#33
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist TLA Winner Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 23,153	The gunman shot up one mosque, and then another a few minutes later. The hospital was placed on lockdown but as yet officials haven't said anything about any shooting there, or anywhere else except the two mosques. The hospital lockdown was precautionary perhaps.
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14th March 2019, 08:09 PM	#35
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location, Location Posts: 61,156	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf This is Terrorism, plain and simply. Also a hate crime. What's the source on that quote?

14th March 2019, 08:10 PM	#36
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 72,823	Originally Posted by arthwollipot What's the source on that quote? Common sense?
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14th March 2019, 08:11 PM	#37
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,248	Worse day since Aramoana
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14th March 2019, 08:12 PM	#38
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location, Location Posts: 61,156	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Common sense? No, the quote that PhantomWolf quoted, which doesn't nest inside another quote. ETA: This one: Originally Posted by PhantomWolf Quote: The man said he did not originally plan to carry out the attack in New Zealand. He said he came to New Zealand temporarily to plan and train. "I soon found out that New Zealand was as target rich of an environment as anywhere else in the West," he wrote. "Secondly an attack in New Zealand would bring to attention the truth of the assault on our civilisation, that no where in the world was safe, the invaders were in all of our lands, even in the remotest areas of the world and that there was no where left to go that was safe and free from mass immigration."

14th March 2019, 08:13 PM	#40
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,326	Originally Posted by arthwollipot No, the quote that PhantomWolf quoted, which doesn't nest inside another quote. NZ Herald says... Quote: In a 74-page manifesto published online he outlined who he was and why he carried out the massacre at the Christchurch mosque. So his manifesto is online and that's where that quote comes from?
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