Anti-Muslim Terrorist Attack in... NZ? - Page 4

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 10:14 PM

The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils has released a statement, but it doesn't appear to be on their website at this time. It's reproduced on the Guardian live blog, to which I have linked several times.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

Well, if you have hate crime laws already, it seems like that should include white supremacy.

We also have free speech. Simply being a White Supremacist isn't enough to be a crime. Acting on it is crime though.

Baylor · 14th March 2019, 10:14 PM

A brave man tried to tackle the shooter but was shot just before he was able to grab ahold. Someone could've ran away while he distracted the gunman. Man died a hero.

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 10:15 PM

Bill Shorten: “Do not watch the footage, that is what the bad people want us to do. This is not normal, do not make this violence normal. We must do everything we can to unite and prevent this happening again.”

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ranb

Fox News is reporting that someone did return fire.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/multiple-...ealand-mosques

Ranb

cullennz posted that a civilian managed to take a rifle from the shooter and fired at him as he fled.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Baylor

The terrorist threats on this forum I am referring to are from anti-Trump, anti-white, pro-immigration extremists. Not an "illegal immigrant."

Except this was a Pro-Trump, white supremacist, anti-immigration extremist, the exact opposite of what you were going on about.

Skeptic Ginger · 14th March 2019, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Appears the gunman live-streamed his action with a chest-mounted go-pro. I'm not going to look it up. Sicko.

I hope it's already been taken down.

LTC8K6 · 14th March 2019, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

We also have free speech. Simply being a White Supremacist isn't enough to be a crime. Acting on it is crime though.

More and more though we have what is termed "hate speech", which some countries do not protect.

NZ has a very wide interpretation of free speech, though.

I expect re-examinations of free speech laws.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

More and more though we have what is termed "hate speech", which some countries do not protect.

NZ has a very wide interpretation of free speech, though.

I expect re-examinations of free speech laws.

I doubt it. Using harsh language is one thing, using bullets is something else.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 10:24 PM

A lot of our news reporters are having trouble holding it together...

Checkmite · 14th March 2019, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Real classy guy.

Maybe some people here should think about where this kind of bigotry..even the "non violent" kind..inevitably leads to.

In another thread here not long ago about the Baltimore synagogue terror attack, I took a poster on this forum to task for his (non-violent!) rhetoric about "white genocide" - which the synagogue attacker also believed in - explaining how true belief in such a concept must almost inevitably lead a believer to resort to armed resistance against the perceived perpetrators.

Now here again. The same BS about "intruders" and "our lands".

I no longer consider this rhetoric non-violent, by definition.

LTC8K6 · 14th March 2019, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

I doubt it. Using harsh language is one thing, using bullets is something else.

The hate (that is escalating) leads to violence, imo.

Baylor · 14th March 2019, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

Except this was a Pro-Trump, white supremacist, anti-immigration extremist, the exact opposite of what you were going on about.

The only thing I was "going on" about was terrorist threats, which I take very seriously regardless of "ideaology." It's frightening you and the rest ISF don't

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...1#post12377521

Lambchops · 14th March 2019, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

In another thread here not long ago about the Baltimore synagogue terror attack, I took a poster on this forum to task for his (non-violent!) rhetoric about "white genocide" - which the synagogue attacker also believed in - explaining how true belief in such a concept must almost inevitably lead a believer to resort to armed resistance against the perceived perpetrators.

Now here again. The same BS about "intruders" and "our lands".

I no longer consider this rhetoric non-violent, by definition.

It has never been "non violent". It's violent by definition, and it should not be covered by so called "free speech". This **** should be beaten down and silenced.

Fascism and white supremacy did not die in 1945. It's still here, and we need to take it seriously.

Baylor · 14th March 2019, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

In another thread here not long ago about the Baltimore synagogue terror attack, I took a poster on this forum to task for his (non-violent!) rhetoric about "white genocide" - which the synagogue attacker also believed in - explaining how true belief in such a concept must almost inevitably lead a believer to resort to armed resistance against the perceived perpetrators.

Now here again. The same BS about "intruders" and "our lands".

I no longer consider this rhetoric non-violent, by definition.

Neither the hi-lited nor the "taking to task" ever happened.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Baylor

The only thing I was "going on" about was terrorist threats, which I take very seriously regardless of "ideaology." It's frightening you and the rest ISF don't

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...1#post12377521

Well until an idiot right wing, racist, white supremacist came here and shot up a bunch of people who were peacefully going about their business, we had no reason to worry about it.

cullennz · 14th March 2019, 10:34 PM

Apparently there just happened to be a massive AOS (Police Armed Offenders Squad) training excersize happening in ChCh, which is why there was such a huge response city wide.

Probably bad to describe this as "a good thing", but kind of handy

Baylor · 14th March 2019, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

Well until an idiot right wing, racist, white supremacist came here and shot up a bunch of people who were peacefully going about their business, we had no reason to worry about it.

I'm not sure how you think this is a relevant reply to the discussion were having.

dudalb · 14th March 2019, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

In another thread here not long ago about the Baltimore synagogue terror attack, I took a poster on this forum to task for his (non-violent!) rhetoric about "white genocide" - which the synagogue attacker also believed in - explaining how true belief in such a concept must almost inevitably lead a believer to resort to armed resistance against the perceived perpetrators.

Now here again. The same BS about "intruders" and "our lands".

I no longer consider this rhetoric non-violent, by definition.

There is no such thing as non violent bigotry. Just flimsily disguised violent bigotry.

Lambchops · 14th March 2019, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Baylor

I'm not sure how you think this is a relevant reply to the discussion were having.

Then what is relevant? Spell it out for us so we don't have to guess.

The Atheist · 14th March 2019, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

Al Noor is the mosque shown in the video.

My guess is that he then drove to another mosque and did more killing.

No need for any accomplices. He was a one man killing machine.

That's where I am on it. I'm guessing the accomplices were supposed to drive the cars with petrol cans and blow them up but chickened out, thankfully.

Originally Posted by Checkmite

Now here again. The same BS about "intruders" and "our lands".

Made completely ironic by the fact it ain't his land at all. He's an Australian.

dudalb · 14th March 2019, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Apparently there just happened to be a massive AOS (Police Armed Offenders Squad) training excersize happening in ChCh, which is why there was such a huge response city wide.

Probably bad to describe this as "a good thing", but kind of handy

And the Conspiracy kooks will go crazy over this.....

Baylor · 14th March 2019, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Lambchops

Then what is relevant? Spell it out for us so we don't have to guess.

All terrorist threats should be taken seriously regardless of "ideaology."

Exactly what I said here

Originally Posted by Baylor

The only thing I was "going on" about was terrorist threats, which I take very seriously regardless of "ideaology." It's frightening you and the rest ISF don't

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...1#post12377521

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 10:41 PM

Armed Police have closed a street and are searching residences in Dunedin

dudalb · 14th March 2019, 10:43 PM

The Authorities are holding off on giving us any fatality numbers. This can't be good.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

The Authorities are holding off on giving us any fatality numbers. This can't be good.

They haven't removed the lock down and allowed many people in yet, just forensics people and other police officers. The PM is telling us that the death toll will be "significant."

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 10:50 PM

This the top story on CNN, MSNBC, BBC, and FOX News websites!

When we make a splash Internationally.....

Aussie PM is speaking on it and says that Australian Authorities will help however they can.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 10:52 PM

NZ Herald is reporting at least 30 killed now.

dudalb · 14th March 2019, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

This the top story on CNN, MSNBC, BBC, and FOX News websites!

When we make a splash Internationally.....

Aussie PM is speaking on it and says that Australian Authorities will help however they can.

Hate to say it, but NZ had not gotten this much attention since the LOTR films.

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 10:53 PM

Australian citizenship confirmed by ScoMo. Looks like we're officially involved, folks.

cullennz · 14th March 2019, 10:54 PM

They cancelled all domestic flights out of Chch because there is no baggage screening.

Guessing they will probably add that now at all airports, which will be annoying

Sideroxylon · 14th March 2019, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

They cancelled all domestic flights out of Chch because there is no baggage screening.

Guessing they will probably add that now at all airports, which will be annoying

Oh well.

Checkmite · 14th March 2019, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Baylor

Neither the hi-lited nor the "taking to task" ever happened.

You are right; the terror attack was in Pittsburgh.

Lambchops · 14th March 2019, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Baylor

All terrorist threats should be taken seriously regardless of "ideaology."

Exactly what I said here

Sure. I clicked the link, and all I see is you cheering for children being locked in cages.

Nothing about actual terrorism, except for the whole innocent kids being treated like animals. But whatever.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Australian citizenship confirmed by ScoMo. Looks like we're officially involved, folks.

Media is now naming the shooter, confirming he is Brenton Tarrant, 28 years old from NSW, Australia.

cullennz · 14th March 2019, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Australian citizenship confirmed by ScoMo. Looks like we're officially involved, folks.

Something tells me we won't be sending this bloke back

Unless you have harsher penalties, or nastier jails, then you can have him

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Something tells me we won't be sending this bloke back

Unless you have harsher penalties, or nastier jails, then you can have him

Only the ones we put refugees in, unfortunately.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Only the ones we put refugees in, unfortunately.

That might work.....

arthwollipot · 14th March 2019, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

That might work.....

While I'd be all for it, it's not going to happen.

PhantomWolf · 14th March 2019, 11:22 PM

40 confirmed dead.

Officially been called an act of Terrorism now.

14th March 2019, 10:14 PM	#122
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,251	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 Well, if you have hate crime laws already, it seems like that should include white supremacy. We also have free speech. Simply being a White Supremacist isn't enough to be a crime. Acting on it is crime though.
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14th March 2019, 10:15 PM	#125
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,251	Originally Posted by Ranb Fox News is reporting that someone did return fire. https://www.foxnews.com/us/multiple-...ealand-mosques Ranb cullennz posted that a civilian managed to take a rifle from the shooter and fired at him as he fled.
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14th March 2019, 10:18 PM	#126
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,251	Originally Posted by Baylor The terrorist threats on this forum I am referring to are from anti-Trump, anti-white, pro-immigration extremists. Not an "illegal immigrant." Except this was a Pro-Trump, white supremacist, anti-immigration extremist, the exact opposite of what you were going on about.
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14th March 2019, 10:20 PM	#127
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 72,864	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Appears the gunman live-streamed his action with a chest-mounted go-pro. I'm not going to look it up. Sicko. I hope it's already been taken down.
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14th March 2019, 10:22 PM	#128
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 21,353	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf We also have free speech. Simply being a White Supremacist isn't enough to be a crime. Acting on it is crime though. More and more though we have what is termed "hate speech", which some countries do not protect. NZ has a very wide interpretation of free speech, though. I expect re-examinations of free speech laws.
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14th March 2019, 10:14 PM	#121
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location, Location Posts: 61,186	The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils has released a statement, but it doesn't appear to be on their website at this time. It's reproduced on the Guardian live blog, to which I have linked several times.

14th March 2019, 10:14 PM	#123
Baylor Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 7,443	A brave man tried to tackle the shooter but was shot just before he was able to grab ahold. Someone could've ran away while he distracted the gunman. Man died a hero.

14th March 2019, 10:15 PM	#124
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location, Location Posts: 61,186	Bill Shorten: “Do not watch the footage, that is what the bad people want us to do. This is not normal, do not make this violence normal. We must do everything we can to unite and prevent this happening again.”

14th March 2019, 10:23 PM	#129
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,251	Originally Posted by LTC8K6 More and more though we have what is termed "hate speech", which some countries do not protect. NZ has a very wide interpretation of free speech, though. I expect re-examinations of free speech laws. I doubt it. Using harsh language is one thing, using bullets is something else.
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14th March 2019, 10:24 PM	#130
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,251	A lot of our news reporters are having trouble holding it together...
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14th March 2019, 10:25 PM	#131
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist TLA Winner Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 23,158	Originally Posted by dudalb Real classy guy. Maybe some people here should think about where this kind of bigotry..even the "non violent" kind..inevitably leads to. In another thread here not long ago about the Baltimore synagogue terror attack, I took a poster on this forum to task for his (non-violent!) rhetoric about "white genocide" - which the synagogue attacker also believed in - explaining how true belief in such a concept must almost inevitably lead a believer to resort to armed resistance against the perceived perpetrators. Now here again. The same BS about "intruders" and "our lands". I no longer consider this rhetoric non-violent, by definition.
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14th March 2019, 10:25 PM	#132
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 21,353	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf I doubt it. Using harsh language is one thing, using bullets is something else. The hate (that is escalating) leads to violence, imo.
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14th March 2019, 10:29 PM	#133
Baylor Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 7,443	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf Except this was a Pro-Trump, white supremacist, anti-immigration extremist, the exact opposite of what you were going on about. The only thing I was "going on" about was terrorist threats, which I take very seriously regardless of "ideaology." It's frightening you and the rest ISF don't http://www.internationalskeptics.com...1#post12377521

14th March 2019, 10:30 PM	#134
Lambchops Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Norvegr Posts: 1,174	Originally Posted by Checkmite In another thread here not long ago about the Baltimore synagogue terror attack, I took a poster on this forum to task for his (non-violent!) rhetoric about "white genocide" - which the synagogue attacker also believed in - explaining how true belief in such a concept must almost inevitably lead a believer to resort to armed resistance against the perceived perpetrators. Now here again. The same BS about "intruders" and "our lands". I no longer consider this rhetoric non-violent, by definition. It has never been "non violent". It's violent by definition, and it should not be covered by so called "free speech". This **** should be beaten down and silenced. Fascism and white supremacy did not die in 1945. It's still here, and we need to take it seriously.
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14th March 2019, 10:31 PM	#135
Baylor Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 7,443	Originally Posted by Checkmite In another thread here not long ago about the Baltimore synagogue terror attack, I took a poster on this forum to task for his (non-violent!) rhetoric about "white genocide" - which the synagogue attacker also believed in - explaining how true belief in such a concept must almost inevitably lead a believer to resort to armed resistance against the perceived perpetrators. Now here again. The same BS about "intruders" and "our lands". I no longer consider this rhetoric non-violent, by definition. Neither the hi-lited nor the "taking to task" ever happened.

14th March 2019, 10:32 PM	#136
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,251	Originally Posted by Baylor The only thing I was "going on" about was terrorist threats, which I take very seriously regardless of "ideaology." It's frightening you and the rest ISF don't http://www.internationalskeptics.com...1#post12377521 Well until an idiot right wing, racist, white supremacist came here and shot up a bunch of people who were peacefully going about their business, we had no reason to worry about it.
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14th March 2019, 10:34 PM	#137
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 15,049	Apparently there just happened to be a massive AOS (Police Armed Offenders Squad) training excersize happening in ChCh, which is why there was such a huge response city wide. Probably bad to describe this as "a good thing", but kind of handy
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14th March 2019, 10:35 PM	#138
Baylor Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 7,443	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf Well until an idiot right wing, racist, white supremacist came here and shot up a bunch of people who were peacefully going about their business, we had no reason to worry about it. I'm not sure how you think this is a relevant reply to the discussion were having.

14th March 2019, 10:37 PM	#139
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 43,612	Originally Posted by Checkmite In another thread here not long ago about the Baltimore synagogue terror attack, I took a poster on this forum to task for his (non-violent!) rhetoric about "white genocide" - which the synagogue attacker also believed in - explaining how true belief in such a concept must almost inevitably lead a believer to resort to armed resistance against the perceived perpetrators. Now here again. The same BS about "intruders" and "our lands". I no longer consider this rhetoric non-violent, by definition. There is no such thing as non violent bigotry. Just flimsily disguised violent bigotry.
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14th March 2019, 10:37 PM	#140
Lambchops Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Norvegr Posts: 1,174	Originally Posted by Baylor I'm not sure how you think this is a relevant reply to the discussion were having. Then what is relevant? Spell it out for us so we don't have to guess.
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14th March 2019, 10:39 PM	#141
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,021	Originally Posted by William Parcher Al Noor is the mosque shown in the video. My guess is that he then drove to another mosque and did more killing. No need for any accomplices. He was a one man killing machine. That's where I am on it. I'm guessing the accomplices were supposed to drive the cars with petrol cans and blow them up but chickened out, thankfully. Originally Posted by Checkmite Now here again. The same BS about "intruders" and "our lands". Made completely ironic by the fact it ain't his land at all. He's an Australian.
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14th March 2019, 10:39 PM	#142
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 43,612	Originally Posted by cullennz Apparently there just happened to be a massive AOS (Police Armed Offenders Squad) training excersize happening in ChCh, which is why there was such a huge response city wide. Probably bad to describe this as "a good thing", but kind of handy And the Conspiracy kooks will go crazy over this.....
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14th March 2019, 10:40 PM	#143
Baylor Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 7,443	Originally Posted by Lambchops Then what is relevant? Spell it out for us so we don't have to guess. All terrorist threats should be taken seriously regardless of "ideaology." Exactly what I said here Originally Posted by Baylor The only thing I was "going on" about was terrorist threats, which I take very seriously regardless of "ideaology." It's frightening you and the rest ISF don't http://www.internationalskeptics.com...1#post12377521

14th March 2019, 10:41 PM	#144
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,251	Armed Police have closed a street and are searching residences in Dunedin
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14th March 2019, 10:43 PM	#145
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 43,612	The Authorities are holding off on giving us any fatality numbers. This can't be good.
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14th March 2019, 10:46 PM	#146
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,251	Originally Posted by dudalb The Authorities are holding off on giving us any fatality numbers. This can't be good. They haven't removed the lock down and allowed many people in yet, just forensics people and other police officers. The PM is telling us that the death toll will be "significant."
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14th March 2019, 10:50 PM	#147
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,251	This the top story on CNN, MSNBC, BBC, and FOX News websites! When we make a splash Internationally..... Aussie PM is speaking on it and says that Australian Authorities will help however they can.
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14th March 2019, 10:52 PM	#148
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,251	NZ Herald is reporting at least 30 killed now.
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14th March 2019, 10:53 PM	#149
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 43,612	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf This the top story on CNN, MSNBC, BBC, and FOX News websites! When we make a splash Internationally..... Aussie PM is speaking on it and says that Australian Authorities will help however they can. Hate to say it, but NZ had not gotten this much attention since the LOTR films.
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14th March 2019, 10:53 PM	#150
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location, Location Posts: 61,186	Australian citizenship confirmed by ScoMo. Looks like we're officially involved, folks.

14th March 2019, 10:54 PM	#151
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 15,049	They cancelled all domestic flights out of Chch because there is no baggage screening. Guessing they will probably add that now at all airports, which will be annoying
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14th March 2019, 10:57 PM	#152
Sideroxylon Featherless biped Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aporia Posts: 20,248	Originally Posted by cullennz They cancelled all domestic flights out of Chch because there is no baggage screening. Guessing they will probably add that now at all airports, which will be annoying Oh well.
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14th March 2019, 10:58 PM	#153
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist TLA Winner Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 23,158	Originally Posted by Baylor Neither the hi-lited nor the "taking to task" ever happened. You are right; the terror attack was in Pittsburgh.
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14th March 2019, 10:58 PM	#154
Lambchops Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Norvegr Posts: 1,174	Originally Posted by Baylor All terrorist threats should be taken seriously regardless of "ideaology." Exactly what I said here Sure. I clicked the link, and all I see is you cheering for children being locked in cages. Nothing about actual terrorism, except for the whole innocent kids being treated like animals. But whatever.
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14th March 2019, 11:03 PM	#155
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 18,251	Originally Posted by arthwollipot Australian citizenship confirmed by ScoMo. Looks like we're officially involved, folks. Media is now naming the shooter, confirming he is Brenton Tarrant, 28 years old from NSW, Australia.
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