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I think we need to be careful about equating "unusual" and "inappropriate"
If I walk into a Denny's and see a guy wearing a Viking Costume I'm gonna give it a second glance because that's unusual, but that's nothing on it being inappropriate. |
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Happy to respond, although I thought my example showed the response pretty clearly.
Joggers are wearing gear for their activity. Perfectly appropriate. One of my kids swam for the High School, and at a meet there were dozens of teens in swimsuits, and inevitably it was all hanging out. Much like bikinis on the beach. Joggers are in the gray area between being situationally appropriate and in the general view, but it's fine. Now, the part you inexplicably took the time to snip out: a skimpy bikini is normal on the beach. Do you think this is appropriate for a church service? Or at dinner? |
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Agreed. My take is that the OP woman saw a lineup of tasty tushys racked up in front of her and thought it left too little to the imagination, especially in a church. Kind of understandable, although she might want to get used to the whole 21st century attire thing. Guys might stare, they might not. As long as no one gets offensive, live and let live.
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Oh for Pete's sake. Why do you have to turn "attention" to "hit on by strangers". If you are going to talk about when women ought to have to put up with being hit on by strangers, that's an interesting topic, but it isn't what my post was about. As a standalone post, I agree with you, and in fact I think I made that reasonably clear even before you made the post. |
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I can't say I'm disappointed in how the future is turning out. Now we only have to make sure to marginalize the self-righteous "no fun allowed" moralists trying to hold back mankind's glorious development, as well as trying to encourage males to also dress in an equally sexy manner... |
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I think that it is a sad state that less than 100% of women on a university campus do not interact with fellow students while walking to class. Universities are supposed to be the most social, and interactive, places in society and yet snowflakes make them out to be warzones where poor little girls get PTSD because some guy wished them a good day.
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I just hate talking to people if it isn't necessary. I hear about places like China where it's considered unthinkable to interrupt strangers for small talk, and I get deeply envious. When I go to work, it's because I have to get money. When I got to the store, it's because I need ****. When I go to class, it is to learn. There is literally no point ever that I want a conversation with a rando, and I've gotten to the point where I'm going to just say that, precisely that, to men and women alike if they speak to me needlessly.
If a fire started right in front of us, or a guy pulled off his clothes and started fiddling on the subway, or you're sitting next to me and our plane might go down - okay, I will talk to you. If you need directions or genuine help of some kind, okay, I will try to see if I can help you. But if you're just chatty? **** off! Think I'm a jerk? Don't care! |
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Tbf, the States have this problem everywhere, and campuses are one of the more socially approachable places. I once heard that being a woman on an American street is like being surrounded by NFL linemen, most of whom will very much will try to **** you. I usually have to get a few words in before they will realize I'm not hitting on them and they open up.
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Okay so the real question... what about MAGA leggings?
*I'm actually scared to Google that because I'm sure somebody actually makes them* |
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Of course someone does. How could you ever doubt it? And why would you be scared of it?
https://www.aafnation.com/products/maga-leggings Enjoy! |
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"As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose -- that it may violate property instead of protecting it -- then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder. Political questions will always be prejudicial, dominant, and all-absorbing. There will be fighting at the door of the Legislative Palace, and the struggle within will be no less furious." - Bastiat, The Law |
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Do leggings make women just too arousing for Catholic men (and women) to handle?
They do when I wear them. |
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I’ve seen arguments on this forum that merely wearing a MAGA hat warrants being called out and even punched because some people associate it with white supremacy or something -irrespective of what the wearer’s views might actually be.
So if it can be said that the MAGA teen or whatever deserves whatever **** comes their way, please explain how that’s not victim blaming. MAGA hat = Hott clothes, just to make it clear. |
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It's funny how the defenders of MAGA hats in this forum always try to reduce them to mere items of clothing even though what they like about them is the message: Make America Great Again by handing over every last bit of wealth that the country contains to the billionaire class while at the same time pretending that it's about white versus blacks and native borns versus foreigners. Of course, the latter, racism and nationalism, is what most MAGA hat wearers imagine that MAGA is about. They will probably also claim that a placard carried at a rally is just a piece of cardboard and The Turner Diaries is just a science fiction novel. Usually, leggings are just that: leggings. But they come in alt-right versions, too, and at that point they stop being just leggings. They are leggings with a political message. I would never claim that my Che Guevara T-shirts are just T-shirts. And in some contexts I won't wear them. ETA: "merely wearing a MAGA hat" is different from merely wearing a hat. It's not merely; it's a political message. And the MAGA hat wearers usually know it. In this case, they're just pretending to be ignorant. |
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I think you missed the point. You are assuming a particular message from a MAGA hat, which may be different from the message intended by it's wearer. Similarly someone might assume a particular message from the wearer of leggings, which might be different from the message intended by it's wearer.
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Today it's mostly sunny and mild here in Germany, after a longer spell with umcomfortable (not really cold, but far from warm) temperatures, I am off from work early, and have been doing an informal survey of what pants women wear to greet spring. First in the main shopping street of the blue collar city where I work (a significantly elevated proportion of people with migrant roots, often Turkish), and now in a street cafe in my more conservative little home town.
I see VERY few leggins! Young ladies mostly sport skin-tight pants, usually blue jeans, but also other colors and fabrics. The middle agers and the rest of the young ones wear more relaxed cuts. I see the occasional leggings on three types of women: Middle aged women who otherwise wear other comfortable clothes Muslimas who wear them under dresses, skirts or hijabs People working out on their bicycles, skates or jogging shoes. I'd say that very nearly 100% of leggings are worn (here and now) for being comfortable, nearly 0% to show off body parts |
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No, I'm not! And I made it very obvious in one of the parts of my post that you didn't quote: I won't deny that a few MAGA hat wearers may think that it means, "Make America Great Again by recycling" or "Make America Great Again by treating brown-skinned foreigners with respect," but at this point in time I think that most people know that this is not how it's intended by the guys who came up with the slogan or by the majority of MAGA hat wearers.
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Yes, somebody may think that the wearer of Pepe-the-Frog leggings is a big fan of Kermit, but do you actually believe that most wearers of that particular version think so? (One of my (Afro-)Cuban friends was very fond of a scarf a German tourist had given him until I told him that he was wearing the Confederate flag. He wasn't familiar with the symbol. Of course, it's possible that the German guy didn't know about it, but I tend to think that he was an ******* who enjoyed the 'joke' of having a black descendant of slaves wear the symbol of slaveowners.) ETA: The German tourist may also have have been extremely fond of historical statues and lamented tearing them down in the good old Confederacy, but ... |
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You might live living in the UK. When we did, I mostly embraced their quiet reserved nature, but occasionally I would randomly greet people to freak them out. It seems like the exact opposite of the American South, where friendly greetings are more of a staple.
carlitos - "HI!" British dude - [looks up from feet, nods awkwardly] |
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Whoa, which thread is this.
I was just in a MAGA hat thread, then I popped into this thread and... MAGA hats. Glitch |
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Hahaha, I watched a thing on Netflix once called "Very British Problems," and the way those talking heads spoke about small talk was PERFECT. It was like my own soul gained a posh accent and the ability to articulate its feelings for a short time. One guy described getting off a train or something at the wrong stop so that he wouldn't have to talk to someone talkative. I have literally done that. More than once. Except it was buses too.
I don't think Britain would have me though, lol. |
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In the name of the Fuehrer,
And of the Right, And of the Master Race, MAGAmen. |
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I've heard Finland is even more disinclined to small talk with strangers. There's a meme of a bus stop with ten people at it and they're all standing eight feet apart not looking at it each other. Only one actually fits at the stop itself. Supposedly that's typical Finland.
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