Merged: Russian (genocidal) internal propaganda and goals about Ukraine

[Michel H]

Originally Posted by Wildy

And yet, in your very article you seem to ignore the pre-invasion poll from May 2013 that found a majority of the population wanted things to continue as they were, or surveys that found that a majority of Crimeans considered Ukraine to be their motherland.

Which poll from the article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_C...tus_referendum) are you referring to exactly?

The situation changed substantially after the ousting of the pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014.

[Jack by the hedge]

Originally Posted by Michel H

Technically, it is probably possible to destroy a nuclear plant without causing much radioactive release ...

The guy in command at the nuclear power plant demands either victory or a scorched desert. Rather than lose control of it he will create a scorched desert in Ukraine. Does that sound to you like he wants to avoid radioactive contamination, or to cause as much of it as possible?

It is truly pitiful to see you trying to convince yourself that there's some way in which this lunacy makes the Russian invaders the good guys.

[Michel H]

Originally Posted by Jack by the hedge

The guy in command at the nuclear power plant demands either victory or a scorched desert. Rather than lose control of it he will create a scorched desert in Ukraine. Does that sound to you like he wants to avoid radioactive contamination, or to cause as much of it as possible?

It is truly pitiful to see you trying to convince yourself that there's some way in which this lunacy makes the Russian invaders the good guys.

No, not the good guys (I am against this invasion), I said:

Originally Posted by Michel H

Nevertheless, I think the Russians should not be in Zaporizhzhia, where they came uninvited, and they should not cause more damage by destroying the plant.
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Stout just posted:

I have edited my post (with Stout's comment), you may not have seen that.

[Wildy]

Originally Posted by Michel H

Which poll from the article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_C...tus_referendum) are you referring to exactly?

The ones in the "polling" section in the Background.

Quote:

The situation changed substantially after the ousting of the pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014.

And we have no polling data from after he was ousted but before the Russian took control of the peninsula. The last poll presented just before the ousting showed that only a minority wanted any form of unification with Russia. Then the data starts to become unreliable.

Care to comment on the rest of my post, or do you prefer the low hanging fruit?

[Wildy]

I just wanted to point out that there were reports that the real referendum turnout was far lower than officially reported.