The Official Alex Jones Thread! - Page 28

Reformed Offlian · Yesterday, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Yes for real. The January 6th Committee said that they were in possession of the texts.

Roger Stone said that the intimate discussion was that he and Jones "prayed together"

I imagine Stone means he was looking at the pictures and muttering "Lord have mercy!"

Close enough?

dudalb · Yesterday, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I'm still not 100% convinced he can't.

Short of a bullet between the eyes what can possibly stop him going right back to his ways when this is said and done.

Question is how much creditbility Jones will have outside his hardcore cult when this is over. I think not very much.
If you want him totally silenced, that is not going to happen.

TheGoldcountry · Yesterday, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by JayUtah

My experience (mostly observational, not practiced) is that while you can informally signal your intentions to the other party ("Yeah, I'm gonna need that back"), you still have to follow up with the proper motions and notices, otherwise no legal obligation ensues. In this case, plaintiff's counsel could very well have been notified informally that there was going to be a claw-back, and very well have cordially acknowledged it, but if a properly written and filed notice pursuant to the rules of civil procedure never arrives, you can't pursue a claim based on a violation of the rule.

From what I've seen, procedural rules carry significant weight. They're literally the substance of due process, which rises all the way to the Constitutional guarantees regarding the judiciary. You can't just tap-dance your way through them.

Also, as the judge pointed out, even if the plaintiffs' lawyers had violated procedure, a lot of that evidence was supposed to be made available in discovery anyway. The defense balked and said it would take months to sort through exactly what the plaintiffs were entitled to, but again, that was their fault for not cooperating with the court from the very beginning.

They ****** themselves in multiple ways.

angrysoba · Yesterday, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Question is how much creditbility Jones will have outside his hardcore cult when this is over. I think not very much.
If you want him totally silenced, that is not going to happen.

I would say his "hardcore cult" is pretty huge at this point.

At this point, the whole Trump-Jones-Carlson-Internet-Edgelords Axis has convinced millions of people that up is down and down is up.

They will all get behind the idea that Jones was set up, that the FBI planted evidence in Mar-a-Lago, that Trump and Jones were totally innocent of the January 6th debacle which was all anti-fa, but ALSO a great uprising and totally justified!

They have passed the point where having a consistent story even matters. In fact, probably past the point at which they would even have any problem with the worst of all the accusations against them?

The Great Zaganza · Yesterday, 07:34 PM

Jones has a hardcore cult following that he despises: he wants MSM recognition, a spot like Tucker on a big Station without having to change one bit himself.
These verdicts will make him too toxic for most of his "mainstream" idols.

Yesterday, 04:32 PM	#1082
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 55,922	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue I'm still not 100% convinced he can't. Short of a bullet between the eyes what can possibly stop him going right back to his ways when this is said and done. Question is how much creditbility Jones will have outside his hardcore cult when this is over. I think not very much. If you want him totally silenced, that is not going to happen.
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Yesterday, 05:06 PM	#1083
TheGoldcountry Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 6,932	Originally Posted by JayUtah My experience (mostly observational, not practiced) is that while you can informally signal your intentions to the other party ("Yeah, I'm gonna need that back"), you still have to follow up with the proper motions and notices, otherwise no legal obligation ensues. In this case, plaintiff's counsel could very well have been notified informally that there was going to be a claw-back, and very well have cordially acknowledged it, but if a properly written and filed notice pursuant to the rules of civil procedure never arrives, you can't pursue a claim based on a violation of the rule. From what I've seen, procedural rules carry significant weight. They're literally the substance of due process, which rises all the way to the Constitutional guarantees regarding the judiciary. You can't just tap-dance your way through them. Also, as the judge pointed out, even if the plaintiffs' lawyers had violated procedure, a lot of that evidence was supposed to be made available in discovery anyway. The defense balked and said it would take months to sort through exactly what the plaintiffs were entitled to, but again, that was their fault for not cooperating with the court from the very beginning. They ****** themselves in multiple ways.
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Yesterday, 06:09 PM	#1084
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 33,050	Originally Posted by dudalb Question is how much creditbility Jones will have outside his hardcore cult when this is over. I think not very much. If you want him totally silenced, that is not going to happen. I would say his "hardcore cult" is pretty huge at this point. At this point, the whole Trump-Jones-Carlson-Internet-Edgelords Axis has convinced millions of people that up is down and down is up. They will all get behind the idea that Jones was set up, that the FBI planted evidence in Mar-a-Lago, that Trump and Jones were totally innocent of the January 6th debacle which was all anti-fa, but ALSO a great uprising and totally justified! They have passed the point where having a consistent story even matters. In fact, probably past the point at which they would even have any problem with the worst of all the accusations against them?
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Yesterday, 07:34 PM	#1085
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 18,306	Jones has a hardcore cult following that he despises: he wants MSM recognition, a spot like Tucker on a big Station without having to change one bit himself. These verdicts will make him too toxic for most of his "mainstream" idols.
	__________________ "When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me." - Emo Philips

Yesterday, 02:09 PM	#1081
Reformed Offlian Muse Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: USA Posts: 950	Originally Posted by acbytesla Yes for real. The January 6th Committee said that they were in possession of the texts. Roger Stone said that the intimate discussion was that he and Jones "prayed together" I imagine Stone means he was looking at the pictures and muttering "Lord have mercy!" Close enough?