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Old 5th July 2019, 06:29 PM   #41
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The leg up is his father made education a part of his life. He never had a tv. Surrounded by books and academia certainly would help. But it's not like he took it for granted. Given his background, it is not like he needed to join the service.
He had a TV. He shared a photo of him and his dad playing Nintendo.
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I would put the odds of the supreme Court ruling against that just above slim.
I agree. But I doubt the court would even bother with the court challenge. It would he dismissed by the lower courts.
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That sounds like the opposite of modest beginnings.
Fair enough. Compared to Obama and Clinton that's privileged.
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Fair enough. Compared to Obama and Clinton that's privileged.
Here is the photo of kid Pete in front of a TV.

https://time.com/longform/pete-buttigieg-2020/
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He had a TV. He shared a photo of him and his dad playing Nintendo.
I remember him saying he didn't have a tv. But perhaps he said something similar. And then again, maybe my mind is failing me.
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Old 5th July 2019, 07:15 PM   #46
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It's so cute when people brag about magna cum laude. That's for people who get B's. Anyone that dumb shouldn't be trusted with eating utensils much less a whole country!
Sorry, but that's not quite right:

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•3.5 – 3.7 Cum Laude
•3.8 – 3.9 Magna Cum Laude
•4.0+ Summa Cum Laude


Magna Cum Laude is an academic honor of distinction that is typically awarded to a student who graduates in the top 10% or 15% of their class.
https://corporatefinanceinstitute.co...gna-cum-laude/

My daughter graduated university magna cum laude with a BS in computer science. In four years she got 3 B's, the rest were A's. It most certainly is something to brag about.
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Old 5th July 2019, 07:52 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Sorry, but that's not quite right:


https://corporatefinanceinstitute.co...gna-cum-laude/

My daughter graduated university magna cum laude with a BS in computer science. In four years she got 3 B's, the rest were A's. It most certainly is something to brag about.
It is precisely and exactly right: you get to be magna from having received B's. If you feel that B's are worth bragging about, that's your right. Feel as proud as you like! Your pride will not make 3.9 equal 4.0.
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Old 5th July 2019, 11:12 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
It's so cute when people brag about magna cum laude. That's for people who get B's. Anyone that dumb shouldn't be trusted with eating utensils much less a whole country!
Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Sorry, but that's not quite right:
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•3.5 – 3.7 Cum Laude
•3.8 – 3.9 Magna Cum Laude
•4.0+ Summa Cum Laude


Magna Cum Laude is an academic honor of distinction that is typically awarded to a student who graduates in the top 10% or 15% of their class.
https://corporatefinanceinstitute.co...gna-cum-laude/

My daughter graduated university magna cum laude with a BS in computer science. In four years she got 3 B's, the rest were A's. It most certainly is something to brag about.
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It is precisely and exactly right: you get to be magna from having received B's. If you feel that B's are worth bragging about, that's your right. Feel as proud as you like! Your pride will not make 3.9 equal 4.0.
No need to get nasty. I certainly wasn't nasty to you nor have I ever been.

If you get ONE B out of 4 years of A's, then you will graduate magna, not summa. I feel sorry for anyone whose parent wouldn't be proud of them graduating in the top 10-15% of their class. They'll rarely, if ever, make that parent proud when perfection is a requirement .
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No need to get nasty. I certainly wasn't nasty to you nor have I ever been.

If you get ONE B out of 4 years of A's, then you will graduate magna, not summa. I feel sorry for anyone whose parent wouldn't be proud of them graduating in the top 10-15% of their class. They'll rarely, if ever, make that parent proud when perfection is a requirement .
And I'm not "being nasty" to you now. The fact is that magna is the inferior tier to summa. Silver medalists are not gold medalists. You may be wonderfully proud of your son/daughter/butler/corgi winning a silver medal, but you will not convince everyone else that a silver medal is just as good as a gold medal.
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It's funny, but think about Mayor Pete for a moment. What other qualification does he have for the presidency other than that he's really smart?
He's not a dick?
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And I'm not "being nasty" to you now. The fact is that magna is the inferior tier to summa. Silver medalists are not gold medalists. You may be wonderfully proud of your son/daughter/butler/corgi winning a silver medal, but you will not convince everyone else that a silver medal is just as good as a gold medal.
Please show me where I tried to convince anyone that magna was "superior" to summa.

Your original post demeaned people who graduated magna cum laude as so "dumb they shouldn't be trusted with eating utensils" and mocked people who are proud of it as "cute". I usually find you very witty and funny but your 'wit' in this case is just plain nasty arrogance. Have a good evening.
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Please show me where I tried to convince anyone that magna was "superior" to summa.

Your original post demeaned people who graduated magna cum laude as so "dumb they shouldn't be trusted with eating utensils" and mocked people who are proud of it as "cute". I usually find you very witty and funny but your 'wit' in this case is just plain nasty arrogance. Have a good evening.
I fear I can't give you higher than a B, for missing the point. Which was that it's stupid to brag about one's GPA in the context of running for the presidency, as if that's a qualification. Ooooh, he did a really good project on Pearl Buck in freshman English, earning so much approval from the adjunct professor! Put him in charge! He'll Make America B+ Again!
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I fear I can't give you higher than a B, for missing the point. Which was that it's stupid to brag about one's GPA in the context of running for the presidency, as if that's a qualification. Ooooh, he did a really good project on Pearl Buck in freshman English, earning so much approval from the adjunct professor! Put him in charge! He'll Make America B+ Again!
I wouldn't say it's a qualification. But then again I wouldn't want a moron that threatens legal action against anyone exposing his grades running the country. I like to know that the people running this country know how to think and have demonstrated that they can.

Graduating Magna Cum Laude IS a substantial academic achievement. Especially when it's at an exclusive university. If you don't think so, you're an idiot.
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Graduating Magna Cum Laude IS a substantial academic achievement. Especially when it's at an exclusive university. If you don't think so, you're an idiot.
Indeed. Second place is very wonderful and magnificent.

Just a little less wonderful and magnificent than first place.

I'm too polite to suggest someone's an idiot if they can't see that, so I'd say they're very smart, just not the topmost rank of smartness. If only there were some sort of way to indicate tiers of academic achievement, some sort of system by which we could indicate someone's very smart but didn't quite make it all the way to the tippy top. But there is no such system so I guess we can't possibly quantify academic achievement.
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Indeed. Second place is very wonderful and magnificent.

Just a little less wonderful and magnificent than first place.

I'm too polite to suggest someone's an idiot if they can't see that, so I'd say they're very smart, just not the topmost rank of smartness. If only there were some sort of way to indicate tiers of academic achievement, some sort of system by which we could indicate someone's very smart but didn't quite make it all the way to the tippy top. But there is no such system so I guess we can't possibly quantify academic achievement.

No, you just try to degrade a seriously impressive academic achievement of others. Yea, that's polite.

Second place among thousands is ***** impressive. You remind me of how Teddy Roosevelt's describe critics in his speech about the man in the arena.
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I wouldn't say it's a qualification. But then again I wouldn't want a moron that threatens legal action against anyone exposing his grades running the country. I like to know that the people running this country know how to think and have demonstrated that they can.

Graduating Magna Cum Laude IS a substantial academic achievement. Especially when it's at an exclusive university. If you don't think so, you're an idiot.
Is a substantial academic achievement an actual achievement?
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It's funny, but think about Mayor Pete for a moment. What other qualification does he have for the presidency other than that he's really smart?
He’s served as a Mayor, which means he at least has an idea about what is involved with being in government, which, along with being smart, makes him vastly better qualified than Trump.
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He’s served as a Mayor, which means he at least has an idea about what is involved with being in government, which, along with being smart, makes him vastly better qualified than Trump.
I like Mayor Pete a lot but I have to admit that I think he should get more experience in government by running for a seat in Congress before running for POTUS. He's young and has time to get that experience.
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He’s served as a Mayor, which means he at least has an idea about what is involved with being in government, which, along with being smart, makes him vastly better qualified than Trump.
At least Pete can read the briefing books.
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I like Mayor Pete a lot but I have to admit that I think he should get more experience in government by running for a seat in Congress before running for POTUS. He's young and has time to get that experience.
You think being a member of Congress prepares you for being President? What I like most about Mayor Pete is his thorough understanding of politics and history. I'd be more comfortable if he had been a governor, but he's from Indiana...so not much chance of him being governor there.
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You think being a member of Congress prepares you for being President? What I like most about Mayor Pete is his thorough understanding of politics and history. I'd be more comfortable if he had been a governor, but he's from Indiana...so not much chance of him being governor there.
I think it better prepares a person as it allows them to understand first hand the mechanisms of how the federal government works in reality. It allows them to establish contacts and build a network. That is no small thing.

I think Buttigieg has a bright future in government. He is obviously brilliant but also seems to have common sense besides being, imo, personally a decent human being...all characteristics the current White House resident lacks.
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I think it better prepares a person as it allows them to understand first hand the mechanisms of how the federal government works in reality. It allows them to establish contacts and build a network. That is no small thing.

I think Buttigieg has a bright future in government. He is obviously brilliant but also seems to have common sense besides being, imo, personally a decent human being...all characteristics the current White House resident lacks.
7 years of being mayor in a mid size city is actually a serious job. There is a lot more responsibility than you ever might assume on Capitol Hill.
Right now, he's in my top 3. Harris and Warren being the other two.
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7 years of being mayor in a mid size city is actually a serious job. There is a lot more responsibility than you ever might assume on Capitol Hill.
Right now, he's in my top 3. Harris and Warren being the other two.
I didn't say it wasn't a serious job. Running a mid size city is its own experience, but it isn't the same as learning how to navigate Congress and dealing with longtime powerhouses like McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, Graham, etc. Believe me, I'd vote for Buttigieg over Trump or any of the last crop of GOP candidates without a second thought, but I'd still prefer if he'd get some federal gov't experience under his belt first...experience that Warren, Harris, Biden, and others do have.
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I didn't say it wasn't a serious job. Running a mid size city is its own experience, but it isn't the same as learning how to navigate Congress and dealing with longtime powerhouses like McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, Graham, etc. Believe me, I'd vote for Buttigieg over Trump or any of the last crop of GOP candidates without a second thought, but I'd still prefer if he'd get some federal gov't experience under his belt first...experience that Warren, Harris, Biden, and others do have.
I don't think that is as important as you make it. Hiring a legislative liason and a good chief of staff would resolve most of those issues. You just have to be willing to listen to them.

I can't imagine voting for Trump over anyone. In fact there is no well known individuals from either party that I wouldn't vote for against Trump with the exception of McConnell maybe. I use to think Pence would also be a non-starter. But I think I'd vote for that religious jerk over Trump. Especially, when we are getting cretins for judges anyway.
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I think it better prepares a person as it allows them to understand first hand the mechanisms of how the federal government works in reality just what a corrupt, back-biting bunch of self-serving asshats they will have to deal with. It allows them to establish contacts and build a network. That is no small thing.

I think Buttigieg has a bright future in government. He is obviously brilliant but also seems to have common sense besides being, imo, personally a decent human being...all characteristics the current White House resident lacks.
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I don't think that is as important as you make it. Hiring a legislative liason and a good chief of staff would resolve most of those issues. You just have to be willing to listen to them.

I can't imagine voting for Trump over anyone. In fact there is no well known individuals from either party that I wouldn't vote for against Trump with the exception of McConnell maybe. I use to think Pence would also be a non-starter. But I think I'd vote for that religious jerk over Trump. Especially, when we are getting cretins for judges anyway.
Exactly how important am I making it? I didn't say I wouldn't vote for him so it can't be that important to me. I said I'd prefer he got some federal experience first and I think my stated reasons are well founded and reasonable.
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Exactly how important am I making it? I didn't say I wouldn't vote for him so it can't be that important to me. I said I'd prefer he got some federal experience first and I think my stated reasons are well founded and reasonable.
That's fine. I just don't agree with your analysis. But maybe I'm wrong and you're right.
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That's fine. I just don't agree with your analysis.
That's ok. Having a different opinion is fine.

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That's ok. Having a different opinion is fine.



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I said "maybe".
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I said "maybe".
Yeah...so did he.
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Yeah...so did he.
Nice comeback.

But I'm not hubby who if he has half a brain never forgets the maxim "happy wife, happy life".
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Nice comeback.

But I'm not hubby who if he has half a brain never forgets the maxim "happy wife, happy life".
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I don't think that is as important as you make it. Hiring a legislative liason and a good chief of staff would resolve most of those issues. You just have to be willing to listen to them.

I can't imagine voting for Trump over anyone. In fact there is no well known individuals from either party that I wouldn't vote for against Trump with the exception of McConnell maybe. I use to think Pence would also be a non-starter. But I think I'd vote for that religious jerk over Trump. Especially, when we are getting cretins for judges anyway.
Dunno about that. Trump is ignorant, incompetent, bigoted, and evil. Would you prefer someone who is is smarter, more competent, just as bigoted, and perhaps even more evil? For example, the subject of this thread, Ted Cruz? Trump may have the Xian right fooled, but Ted is a True Believer.
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Dunno about that. Trump is ignorant, incompetent, bigoted, and evil. Would you prefer someone who is is smarter, more competent, just as bigoted, and perhaps even more evil? For example, the subject of this thread, Ted Cruz? Trump may have the Xian right fooled, but Ted is a True Believer.
Don't get me wrong I can't stand Pence. But Pence I think is not going to ignore judges and has some respect for checks and balances.
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
Don't get me wrong I can't stand Pence. But Pence I think is not going to ignore judges and has some respect for checks and balances.
I have to disagree. When you're a fundie, what GAWD tells you trumps everything.
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Don't get me wrong I can't stand Pence. But Pence I think is not going to ignore judges and has some respect for checks and balances.
Trump pretends that he can change the system through sheer force of his personality.
Pence thinks he can do the same through sheer force of FAITHTM.

Trump's weird style of doing things has proven to be more effective than God time and again.
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I have to give Cainkain 1 credit for one thing. He knows which buttons to push to get a response;first requirement for a successful troll.
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He’s served as a Mayor, which means he at least has an idea about what is involved with being in government, which, along with being smart, makes him vastly better qualified than Trump.
More qualified than Trump is a mighty low bar. OTOH, it's enough to make me vote for pretty much anybody who manages to get the Democratic nomination.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I have to give Cainkain 1 credit for one thing. He knows which buttons to push to get a response;first requirement for a successful troll.
Meh, he's too obvious for me. I don't see him as a good troll.
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