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Old 8th June 2018, 11:15 AM   #1
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Charles Krauthammer says goodbye.

Conervative-but-not-crazy columnist and commentator Charles Krauthammer announces that his retirement has been compelled by his imminent demise. His positions were often hard to swallow, but he was always intelligent and knowledgable, and his personal story -- getting through medical school and embarking on a distinguished career after being paralyzed for life in an accident -- was an inspiration to anyone.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...?noredirect=on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer
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Old 8th June 2018, 11:26 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
Conervative-but-not-crazy columnist and commentator Charles Krauthammer announces that his retirement has been compelled by his imminent demise. His positions were often hard to swallow, but he was always intelligent and knowledgable, and his personal story -- getting through medical school and embarking on a distinguished career after being paralyzed for life in an accident -- was an inspiration to anyone.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...?noredirect=on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer
I had no idea he was a quadriplegic. Not my side of economics but I never thought he drank the Fox koolaid.
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I did not agree with Krauthamer during the Obama years, but he always kept his attacks to Obama's policies, never played the race card,and rejected the conspiracy theories as crap.
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Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
Conervative-but-not-crazy columnist and commentator Charles Krauthammer announces that his retirement has been compelled by his imminent demise. His positions were often hard to swallow, but he was always intelligent and knowledgable, and his personal story -- getting through medical school and embarking on a distinguished career after being paralyzed for life in an accident -- was an inspiration to anyone.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...?noredirect=on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer
Dying from cancer is not a happy ending but one less pro-israel neocon is always a good thing.
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Old 8th June 2018, 03:02 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy View Post
Dying from cancer is not a happy ending but one less pro-israel neocon is always a good thing.
Gee -I disagree with Krauthammer on almost every issue, including many of Israel's policies, and I do not think dying makes one a saint or post-humously correct. I even more strongly disagree with, and I am even angered by, many of the views some post to this forum, including yours. Yet I would not view his death, their deaths, or your death, as a good thing.

And if you hope your views to prevail by this mechanism of attrition you will have to wait for a lot, lot more people to die.
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Old 8th June 2018, 07:49 PM   #7
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Old 8th June 2018, 08:39 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
I had no idea he was a quadriplegic. Not my side of economics but I never thought he drank the Fox koolaid.
I didn't know that either. I thought he just had a stick up his butt.
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Old 8th June 2018, 09:52 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
I had no idea he was a quadriplegic. Not my side of economics but I never thought he drank the Fox koolaid.
That's the amazing thing. After this unimaginable catastrophe, he went on with his life as if it was a minor inconvenience. He was a board-certified psychiatrist before he became a columnist.
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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy View Post
Dying from cancer is not a happy ending but one less pro-israel neocon is always a good thing.
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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy View Post
Dying from cancer is not a happy ending but one less pro-israel neocon is always a good thing.
-1 for our side. Well, as soon as he passes away.
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I didn't agree with him all that often but he was one of the few on that network who stayed loyal to the country after Trump was elected. Staying loyal in that den of traitors took some moral courage I'm sure.
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I didn't agree with him all that often but he was one of the few on that network who stayed loyal to the country after Trump was elected. Staying loyal in that den of traitors took some moral courage I'm sure.
Yeah, that's exactly what I think of when Krauthammer comes up: A guy who stood up for his beliefs. Especially when those beliefs involved killing people.
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I read and watched Krauthammer, who is one of very, very few people capable of independent thought, and then I see pot shots here that would embarrass a 4 year old.

You don't even think. You regurgitate memetic defense mechanisms for your quasi-religion. There is no thought there, just a mechanical operation as the memeplex that has seized control of the gears in your skull activates you to defend it.

Zero. Independent. Thought.

There are, or were, four people I recognized as capable of independent thought. Him, George Will, Roger Ebert, and Christopher Hitchens.

Please stay out of the grownup areas, children.
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Originally Posted by Beerina View Post
I read and watched Krauthammer, who is one of very, very few people capable of independent thought, and then I see pot shots here that would embarrass a 4 year old.

You don't even think. You regurgitate memetic defense mechanisms for your quasi-religion. There is no thought there, just a mechanical operation as the memeplex that has seized control of the gears in your skull activates you to defend it.

Zero. Independent. Thought.

There are, or were, four people I recognized as capable of independent thought. Him, George Will, Roger Ebert, and Christopher Hitchens.

Please stay out of the grownup areas, children.
Krauthammer was fairly good at basic argument. Will, too. Ebert, I suppose, but I find Hitchens much less impressive.

Your list should include David Brooks (though his topics are not always interesting to me).
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He’s gone.
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Fox is carrying it.
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He’s gone.
Shame. Seemed a decent guy.
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There's a part of me - speaking as someone struggling with a chronical disability - that struggles to respect Krauthammer for a basic set of reasons. He was severely disabled (he seems to have gone to considerable lengths to not have his wheelchair depicted in regular appearances though). He had a medical degree. He was a highly articulate and influential conservative commentator in a country with a shameful social safety net for those struggling with health problems and disability.

He could have been an absolutely key figure in persuading conservative segments of the U.S. of the need for health insurance and safety net reforms. But he chose not to be. I just can't respect that.
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He could have been an absolutely key figure in persuading conservative segments of the U.S. of the need for health insurance and safety net reforms. But he chose not to be. I just can't respect that.
That's one of the strongest criticisms to be made of him. There is no reason to think that his tremendously expensive lifetime medical and care costs weren't largely covered by group health insurance. Yet he was outspoken about denying all Americans what he took for granted.
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Charles Krauthammer Has Ashes Spread Over Prosperous, Liberated Iraq

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Linky no worky, try this one.
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You do know what the Onion is, right?
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You do know what the Onion is, right?
Apparently Stacko Does Not...
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There's a part of me - speaking as someone struggling with a chronical disability - that struggles to respect Krauthammer for a basic set of reasons. He was severely disabled (he seems to have gone to considerable lengths to not have his wheelchair depicted in regular appearances though). He had a medical degree. He was a highly articulate and influential conservative commentator in a country with a shameful social safety net for those struggling with health problems and disability.

He could have been an absolutely key figure in persuading conservative segments of the U.S. of the need for health insurance and safety net reforms. But he chose not to be. I just can't respect that.
I'm sure he's crushed by your lack of respect for him...
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I'm sure he's crushed by your lack of respect for him...
Yes, let's "womp womp" all over disability rights and the plight of chronic health problems among those with limited financial means. Hilarious.
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