Riots, looting, vandalism, etc. - Page 60

thaiboxerken · 10th January 2021, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Rioting is wrong. Protesting and demonstrating is fine for whatever cause you support.

Wasn't the USA created by riots or even worse violence?

catsmate · 10th January 2021, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by johnny karate

Yes, this thing is bad. But other things are also bad and all bad things are the same.

Look at me, I’m a Republican! Wheeee!!!

Not just a Republican but a Trump supporter; some Republicans have opposed him from the start. Powell comes to mind.

catsmate · 10th January 2021, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

Wasn't the USA created by riots or even worse violence?

There was a lot of rioting and terrorism before the revolution; the Sons of Liberty certainly qualify as a terrorist group.

kookbreaker · 10th January 2021, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by catsmate

Not just a Republican but a Trump supporter; some Republicans have opposed him from the start. Powell comes to mind.

Powell,was apparently just on CNN saying he no longer considers himself a Republican.

Dr.Sid · 10th January 2021, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

Wasn't the USA created by riots or even worse violence?

1) it was very different times
2) it was illegal
3) the result is USA of Donal Trump, so it was possibly bad idea from the start

trustbutverify · 10th January 2021, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

Powell,was apparently just on CNN saying he no longer considers himself a Republican.

Well, he could apply for RINO status.

Brainster · 11th January 2021, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Thermal

I get what you are saying, but disagreed. A street protest is one thing, and done by both sides. Jan 6th was an attack on an electoral count in progress in our very seat of Democracy. Antifa, BLM, and others did not smash through the White House's windows, kill a Secret Service agent by smashing a fire extinguisher on his head, and put their feet up on the desk in the Oval Office. This was different than street demonstrations.

Obvious question: Would Antifa have done that if they could have? I know that some here think I'm minimalizing the riot at the capitol, but from my standpoint, comparing the Trump loonies to the antifa-tards is caustic criticism.

The Great Zaganza · 11th January 2021, 09:30 AM

Give us one example of BLM or Antfa storming an occupied building looking for people to attack.
How many gallows have BLM/Antifa erected?

thaiboxerken · 11th January 2021, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Obvious question: Would Antifa have done that if they could have?

Nope.

Leftus · 11th January 2021, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Give us one example of BLM or Antfa storming an occupied building looking for people to attack.
How many gallows have BLM/Antifa erected?

https://nypost.com/2020/08/24/blm-pr...ation-on-fire/

You don't need to go in and storm a building looking to attack people, if you just burn them all alive.

No gallows, but does a guillotine count?

SuburbanTurkey · 11th January 2021, 12:01 PM

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Ziggurat · 11th January 2021, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

Powell,was apparently just on CNN saying he no longer considers himself a Republican.

Powell hasn't endorsed a single Republican candidate in well over a decade. He hasn't been a Republican in a very long time. The only news is that he finally stopped pretending, but everyone already knew.

johnny karate · 11th January 2021, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Obvious question: Would Antifa have done that if they could have? I know that some here think I'm minimalizing the riot at the capitol, but from my standpoint, comparing the Trump loonies to the antifa-tards is caustic criticism.

Wow, the level of discourse from conservatives has gotten embarrassingly bad.

johnny karate · 11th January 2021, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Leftus

https://nypost.com/2020/08/24/blm-pr...ation-on-fire/

You don't need to go in and storm a building looking to attack people, if you just burn them all alive.

No gallows, but does a guillotine count?

So “none” then, thanks.

Silly Green Monkey · 11th January 2021, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Obvious question: Would Antifa have done that if they could have? I know that some here think I'm minimalizing the riot at the capitol, but from my standpoint, comparing the Trump loonies to the antifa-tards is caustic criticism.

Whether they 'would have' or not is rather moot, is it not? Right-wing extremists went to a Trump rally at the White House and were then sent to the Capitol to interrupt a session of the Legislative branch of the United States Government, which they did, smashing their way in places and being invited in others. It was done. There was no 'might' or 'maybe they will' about it.

There have been BLM protests there already. That opportunity has already been presented, with no attempt made to assault the government (and accompanied by an actual police presence, unlike the ralliot) that also didn't harm any officers. Also unlike the ralliot.

angrysoba · 11th January 2021, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

Powell hasn't endorsed a single Republican candidate in well over a decade. He hasn't been a Republican in a very long time. The only news is that he finally stopped pretending, but everyone already knew.

Good for him.

SuburbanTurkey · 12th January 2021, 06:05 AM

LAPD puts out APB for alleged hate crime assault of a black woman at a Trump protest. This is 5 days after the fact and only after public scrutiny.

The victim was attacked in plain view of the many police who were on the scene. The victim showed cell-phone video of the assault to the commanding officer on the scene and pointed her attackers out in the crowd, but the police refused to make an arrest.

Now they're trying to ID the unknown assailants that they let walk away from the crime scene.

https://twitter.com/chadloder/status...21815695601665

Quote:

Nibo told BuzzFeed News she feared the mob would beat her to death. She did not respond to our calls seeking comment.

Natalicchio said a number of LAPD officers who were stationed across the street did not intervene.

https://laist.com/latest/post/202101...black-woman-la

trustbutverify · 12th January 2021, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

Powell hasn't endorsed a single Republican candidate in well over a decade. He hasn't been a Republican in a very long time. The only news is that he finally stopped pretending, but everyone already knew.

I don't blame him.

Ethan Thane Athen · 12th January 2021, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

LAPD puts out APB for alleged hate crime assault of a black woman at a Trump protest. This is 5 days after the fact and only after public scrutiny.

The victim was attacked in plain view of the many police who were on the scene. The victim showed cell-phone video of the assault to the commanding officer on the scene and pointed her attackers out in the crowd, but the police refused to make an arrest.

Now they're trying to ID the unknown assailants that they let walk away from the crime scene.

https://twitter.com/chadloder/status...21815695601665

I watched the video of that* and (prepares to be beaten down) she didn't seem completely innocent...Before you all start, I am absolutely not condoning what happened, it was shocking and hopefully my posting history shows which 'side' I'm on...it was just it was portrayed as innocent person walking home from work but (accepting I may have misunderstood) it looked like she was in their faces, videoing them before it all kicked off. Doesn't excuse it, throw the book at them (including the police who did bugger all) etc, etc and happy to be corrected on context - it just didn't look quite as portrayed (but still shocking).

* I am assuming this is the one I'd seen previously and very happy to be corrected on that or the context.

SuburbanTurkey · 12th January 2021, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Ethan Thane Athen

I watched the video of that* and (prepares to be beaten down) she didn't seem completely innocent...Before you all start, I am absolutely not condoning what happened, it was shocking and hopefully my posting history shows which 'side' I'm on...it was just it was portrayed as innocent person walking home from work but (accepting I may have misunderstood) it looked like she was in their faces, videoing them before it all kicked off. Doesn't excuse it, throw the book at them (including the police who did bugger all) etc, etc and happy to be corrected on context - it just didn't look quite as portrayed (but still shocking).

* I am assuming this is the one I'd seen previously and very happy to be corrected on that or the context.

Here's the video.

The mob of CHUDs follow her down the sidewalk, surround her, jeer, then beat her.

Pulling out a video recorder when being menaced on the public sidewalk is not an unusual response, nor is it provocation in any sense.

https://twitter.com/chadloder/status...19168825167872

https://twitter.com/i/status/1347619168825167872

It's hard to keep things straight because the crowd uses similar tactics, and many of the same people also menaced another black woman, caught on video, in a very similar way. There are numerous examples of the fascists here committing assaults on counterprotestors without response from the police.

Thermal · 12th January 2021, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

Obvious question: Would Antifa have done that if they could have? I know that some here think I'm minimalizing the riot at the capitol, but from my standpoint, comparing the Trump loonies to the antifa-tards is caustic criticism.

I don't see why they would. Antifa is not political. They are anti-fascist. When fascists hit the street, antifa hits the fascists. As far as I can tell, they have no political objectives beyond 6that.

Or do you mean the summer rioters? Some antifa would be in there too, what with the whole cops-killing-people thing being kinda fascist. But not as antifa, if you take my meaning. Just as protesters with an intersectional target.

catsmate · 13th January 2021, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Leftus

https://nypost.com/2020/08/24/blm-pr...ation-on-fire/

You don't need to go in and storm a building looking to attack people, if you just burn them all alive.

No gallows, but does a guillotine count?

Have you a reputable source for that?

catsmate · 13th January 2021, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

Powell hasn't endorsed a single Republican candidate in well over a decade. He hasn't been a Republican in a very long time. The only news is that he finally stopped pretending, but everyone already knew.

It's good to know that Republicanism is curable.

BTW welcome back, we thought you were dead or in jail given your uncharacteristic absence.

Mycroft · Yesterday, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

Powell hasn't endorsed a single Republican candidate in well over a decade. He hasn't been a Republican in a very long time. The only news is that he finally stopped pretending, but everyone already knew.

He didn't move away from the Republican party, the Republican party moved away from him.

Bogative · Yesterday, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Silly Green Monkey

There have been BLM protests there already. That opportunity has already been presented, with no attempt made to assault the government (and accompanied by an actual police presence, unlike the ralliot) that also didn't harm any officers. Also unlike the ralliot.

How about the 50+ secret service agents who were injured during the antifa/BLM riots at the White House this summer. The same riots that involved multiple fires, Molotov cocktails, fireworks, bricks and glass bottles that were used against law enforcement? I seem to recall one of those involving the Secret Service forcing the president into an underground bunker at the White House to which members on this board celebrated. Or do those riots not count for reasons?

10th January 2021, 10:46 AM	#2361
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 31,690	Originally Posted by Brainster Rioting is wrong. Protesting and demonstrating is fine for whatever cause you support. Wasn't the USA created by riots or even worse violence?
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10th January 2021, 12:18 PM	#2362
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23,427	Originally Posted by johnny karate Yes, this thing is bad. But other things are also bad and all bad things are the same. Look at me, I’m a Republican! Wheeee!!! Not just a Republican but a Trump supporter; some Republicans have opposed him from the start. Powell comes to mind.
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10th January 2021, 12:19 PM	#2363
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23,427	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken Wasn't the USA created by riots or even worse violence? There was a lot of rioting and terrorism before the revolution; the Sons of Liberty certainly qualify as a terrorist group.
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10th January 2021, 02:34 PM	#2364
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,061	Originally Posted by catsmate Not just a Republican but a Trump supporter; some Republicans have opposed him from the start. Powell comes to mind. Powell,was apparently just on CNN saying he no longer considers himself a Republican.
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10th January 2021, 08:10 PM	#2366
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8,771	Originally Posted by kookbreaker Powell,was apparently just on CNN saying he no longer considers himself a Republican. Well, he could apply for RINO status.
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10th January 2021, 02:46 PM	#2365
Dr.Sid Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Olomouc, Czech Republic Posts: 3,131	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken Wasn't the USA created by riots or even worse violence? 1) it was very different times 2) it was illegal 3) the result is USA of Donal Trump, so it was possibly bad idea from the start

11th January 2021, 08:27 AM	#2367
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 18,149	Originally Posted by Thermal I get what you are saying, but disagreed. A street protest is one thing, and done by both sides. Jan 6th was an attack on an electoral count in progress in our very seat of Democracy. Antifa, BLM, and others did not smash through the White House's windows, kill a Secret Service agent by smashing a fire extinguisher on his head, and put their feet up on the desk in the Oval Office. This was different than street demonstrations. Obvious question: Would Antifa have done that if they could have? I know that some here think I'm minimalizing the riot at the capitol, but from my standpoint, comparing the Trump loonies to the antifa-tards is caustic criticism.
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11th January 2021, 09:30 AM	#2368
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,292	Give us one example of BLM or Antfa storming an occupied building looking for people to attack. How many gallows have BLM/Antifa erected?
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11th January 2021, 09:35 AM	#2369
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 31,690	Originally Posted by Brainster Obvious question: Would Antifa have done that if they could have? Nope.
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11th January 2021, 10:34 AM	#2370
Leftus Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,351	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Give us one example of BLM or Antfa storming an occupied building looking for people to attack. How many gallows have BLM/Antifa erected? https://nypost.com/2020/08/24/blm-pr...ation-on-fire/ You don't need to go in and storm a building looking to attack people, if you just burn them all alive. No gallows, but does a guillotine count?
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11th January 2021, 12:01 PM	#2371
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11th January 2021, 12:26 PM	#2372
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 47,883	Originally Posted by kookbreaker Powell,was apparently just on CNN saying he no longer considers himself a Republican. Powell hasn't endorsed a single Republican candidate in well over a decade. He hasn't been a Republican in a very long time. The only news is that he finally stopped pretending, but everyone already knew.
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11th January 2021, 04:25 PM	#2373
johnny karate ... and your little dog too. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 14,135	Originally Posted by Brainster Obvious question: Would Antifa have done that if they could have? I know that some here think I'm minimalizing the riot at the capitol, but from my standpoint, comparing the Trump loonies to the antifa-tards is caustic criticism. Wow, the level of discourse from conservatives has gotten embarrassingly bad.

11th January 2021, 04:25 PM	#2374
johnny karate ... and your little dog too. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 14,135	Originally Posted by Leftus https://nypost.com/2020/08/24/blm-pr...ation-on-fire/ You don't need to go in and storm a building looking to attack people, if you just burn them all alive. No gallows, but does a guillotine count? So “none” then, thanks.

11th January 2021, 05:09 PM	#2375
Silly Green Monkey Cowardly Lurking in the Shadows of Greatness Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,188	Originally Posted by Brainster Obvious question: Would Antifa have done that if they could have? I know that some here think I'm minimalizing the riot at the capitol, but from my standpoint, comparing the Trump loonies to the antifa-tards is caustic criticism. Whether they 'would have' or not is rather moot, is it not? Right-wing extremists went to a Trump rally at the White House and were then sent to the Capitol to interrupt a session of the Legislative branch of the United States Government, which they did, smashing their way in places and being invited in others. It was done. There was no 'might' or 'maybe they will' about it. There have been BLM protests there already. That opportunity has already been presented, with no attempt made to assault the government (and accompanied by an actual police presence, unlike the ralliot) that also didn't harm any officers. Also unlike the ralliot.
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11th January 2021, 06:07 PM	#2376
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 28,895	Originally Posted by Ziggurat Powell hasn't endorsed a single Republican candidate in well over a decade. He hasn't been a Republican in a very long time. The only news is that he finally stopped pretending, but everyone already knew. Good for him.
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12th January 2021, 06:05 AM	#2377
SuburbanTurkey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 7,110	LAPD puts out APB for alleged hate crime assault of a black woman at a Trump protest. This is 5 days after the fact and only after public scrutiny. The victim was attacked in plain view of the many police who were on the scene. The victim showed cell-phone video of the assault to the commanding officer on the scene and pointed her attackers out in the crowd, but the police refused to make an arrest. Now they're trying to ID the unknown assailants that they let walk away from the crime scene. https://twitter.com/chadloder/status...21815695601665 Quote: Nibo told BuzzFeed News she feared the mob would beat her to death. She did not respond to our calls seeking comment. Natalicchio said a number of LAPD officers who were stationed across the street did not intervene. https://laist.com/latest/post/202101...black-woman-la
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12th January 2021, 06:10 AM	#2378
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8,771	Originally Posted by Ziggurat Powell hasn't endorsed a single Republican candidate in well over a decade. He hasn't been a Republican in a very long time. The only news is that he finally stopped pretending, but everyone already knew. I don't blame him.
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12th January 2021, 06:15 AM	#2379
Ethan Thane Athen Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,157	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey LAPD puts out APB for alleged hate crime assault of a black woman at a Trump protest. This is 5 days after the fact and only after public scrutiny. The victim was attacked in plain view of the many police who were on the scene. The victim showed cell-phone video of the assault to the commanding officer on the scene and pointed her attackers out in the crowd, but the police refused to make an arrest. Now they're trying to ID the unknown assailants that they let walk away from the crime scene. https://twitter.com/chadloder/status...21815695601665 I watched the video of that* and (prepares to be beaten down) she didn't seem completely innocent...Before you all start, I am absolutely not condoning what happened, it was shocking and hopefully my posting history shows which 'side' I'm on...it was just it was portrayed as innocent person walking home from work but (accepting I may have misunderstood) it looked like she was in their faces, videoing them before it all kicked off. Doesn't excuse it, throw the book at them (including the police who did bugger all) etc, etc and happy to be corrected on context - it just didn't look quite as portrayed (but still shocking). * I am assuming this is the one I'd seen previously and very happy to be corrected on that or the context.
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12th January 2021, 06:26 AM	#2380
SuburbanTurkey Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 7,110	Originally Posted by Ethan Thane Athen I watched the video of that* and (prepares to be beaten down) she didn't seem completely innocent...Before you all start, I am absolutely not condoning what happened, it was shocking and hopefully my posting history shows which 'side' I'm on...it was just it was portrayed as innocent person walking home from work but (accepting I may have misunderstood) it looked like she was in their faces, videoing them before it all kicked off. Doesn't excuse it, throw the book at them (including the police who did bugger all) etc, etc and happy to be corrected on context - it just didn't look quite as portrayed (but still shocking). * I am assuming this is the one I'd seen previously and very happy to be corrected on that or the context. Here's the video. The mob of CHUDs follow her down the sidewalk, surround her, jeer, then beat her. Pulling out a video recorder when being menaced on the public sidewalk is not an unusual response, nor is it provocation in any sense. https://twitter.com/chadloder/status...19168825167872 https://twitter.com/i/status/1347619168825167872 It's hard to keep things straight because the crowd uses similar tactics, and many of the same people also menaced another black woman, caught on video, in a very similar way. There are numerous examples of the fascists here committing assaults on counterprotestors without response from the police.
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12th January 2021, 04:35 PM	#2381
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 13,017	Originally Posted by Brainster Obvious question: Would Antifa have done that if they could have? I know that some here think I'm minimalizing the riot at the capitol, but from my standpoint, comparing the Trump loonies to the antifa-tards is caustic criticism. I don't see why they would. Antifa is not political. They are anti-fascist. When fascists hit the street, antifa hits the fascists. As far as I can tell, they have no political objectives beyond 6that. Or do you mean the summer rioters? Some antifa would be in there too, what with the whole cops-killing-people thing being kinda fascist. But not as antifa, if you take my meaning. Just as protesters with an intersectional target.
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13th January 2021, 09:03 AM	#2382
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23,427	Originally Posted by Leftus https://nypost.com/2020/08/24/blm-pr...ation-on-fire/ You don't need to go in and storm a building looking to attack people, if you just burn them all alive. No gallows, but does a guillotine count? Have you a reputable source for that?
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13th January 2021, 09:04 AM	#2383
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 23,427	Originally Posted by Ziggurat Powell hasn't endorsed a single Republican candidate in well over a decade. He hasn't been a Republican in a very long time. The only news is that he finally stopped pretending, but everyone already knew. It's good to know that Republicanism is curable. BTW welcome back, we thought you were dead or in jail given your uncharacteristic absence.
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Yesterday, 08:21 AM	#2384
Mycroft High Priest of Ed Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,812	Originally Posted by Ziggurat Powell hasn't endorsed a single Republican candidate in well over a decade. He hasn't been a Republican in a very long time. The only news is that he finally stopped pretending, but everyone already knew. He didn't move away from the Republican party, the Republican party moved away from him.
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Yesterday, 06:45 PM	#2385
Bogative Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,580	Originally Posted by Silly Green Monkey There have been BLM protests there already. That opportunity has already been presented, with no attempt made to assault the government (and accompanied by an actual police presence, unlike the ralliot) that also didn't harm any officers. Also unlike the ralliot. How about the 50+ secret service agents who were injured during the antifa/BLM riots at the White House this summer. The same riots that involved multiple fires, Molotov cocktails, fireworks, bricks and glass bottles that were used against law enforcement? I seem to recall one of those involving the Secret Service forcing the president into an underground bunker at the White House to which members on this board celebrated. Or do those riots not count for reasons?
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