The Biden Presidency - Page 8

JoeMorgue · 24th November 2020, 08:03 AM

We already went through the whole "OMG the Left is going to make it so another country owns us" thing back in the 80s/90s with Japan.

This whole line of think reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of how inter-country economics works.

Distracted1 · 24th November 2020, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

We already went through the whole "OMG the Left is going to make it so another country owns us" thing back in the 80s/90s with Japan.

This whole line of think reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of how inter-country economics works.

Actually, back in the eighties, it was the Democrats who were in favor of protectionist policies. The trade Unions were screaming for it, Reagan, and his cohort, were against it.

kookbreaker · 24th November 2020, 08:14 AM

The tea party ran rather racist ads during the Obama admin of how our debt would mean the Chinese would soon own us. Then Trump won and deficits didn’t matter anymore.

Darat · 24th November 2020, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

The tea party ran rather racist ads during the Obama admin of how our debt would mean the Chinese would soon own us. Then Trump won and deficits didn’t matter anymore.

Utter nonsense - they mean everything, well from 20th January 2021 they will.

Darat · 24th November 2020, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Distracted1

Actually, back in the eighties, it was the Democrats who were in favor of protectionist policies. The trade Unions were screaming for it, Reagan, and his cohort, were against it.

Joe said “the left”....

shemp · 24th November 2020, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

Utter nonsense - they mean everything, well from 20th January 2021 they will.

At noon, to be specific.

Darat · 24th November 2020, 08:20 AM

I’m assuming that 21/1 will be the first shutdown unless “the dems” agree to a compromise of cutting spending on everything the Reps want cutting?

Darat · 24th November 2020, 08:21 AM

Anyone want a sweepstake on when the first “cancel the ACA” vote happens?

Firestone · 24th November 2020, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

Anyone want a sweepstake on when the first “cancel the ACA” vote happens?

6/jan/2023, after the Republicans have retaken the House in the midterms.

Trebuchet · 24th November 2020, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

After four years of ~~excitement~~, excrement boring sounds good to me.

Fixed that for you.

Confirmations should be "interesting". I expect Mitch will let most through eventually.
Judges, on the other hand, I don't expect a single federal judge or SCOTUS nomination to be approved for the next two years.

Horatius · 24th November 2020, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Venom

Individual Congressmen have to grow a spine and stand up to their so-called leaders' ******** from time to time.

The few "swing Senators" are essentially held hostage by their own party.

The Dems need to start a concerted effort to subvert at least a few GOP senators to their cause. There's got to be a weak link or two, who want something the Dems can offer.

At the same time, Biden should direct the CIA and FBI to figure out what kompromat the Russians gave Trump to get Ted Cruz and Linsey Graham to turn into complete boot-licking yes-men, so they can use it themselves.

turingtest · 24th November 2020, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Marco Rubio tweets

@marcorubio
Biden’s cabinet picks went to Ivy League schools,have strong resumes,attend all the right conferences & will be polite & orderly caretakers of America’s decline

I support American greatness

And I have no interest in returning to the “normal” that left us dependent on China

This is the way the GOP will pretend, going forward, that even though their guy lost the Presidency, they still have a complete right to dictate the policies of the one who won it. "Elections have consequences"- unless it's one Repubs lose, in which case, what election, there was an election?

Craig4 · 24th November 2020, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by turingtest

This is the way the GOP will pretend, going forward, that even though their guy lost the Presidency, they still have a complete right to dictate the policies of the one who won it. "Elections have consequences"- unless it's one Repubs lose, in which case, what election, there was an election?

Marky is just starting early on trying to assume Trump's mantle. What he doesn't realize is that the pack will never follow a beta dog. This pack is going to need a new alpha.

Captain_Swoop · 24th November 2020, 04:03 PM

Kayleigh McEnany tweeted

@kayleighmcenany
Apparently Biden’s pick for Secretary of State can serenade the Iranian mullahs with guitar tunes while they ship over more plane loads of American cash.

dirtywick · 24th November 2020, 05:36 PM

The GOP may not hold the Senate

Resume · 24th November 2020, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Kayleigh McEnany tweeted

@kayleighmcenany
Apparently Biden’s pick for Secretary of State can serenade the Iranian mullahs with guitar tunes while they ship over more plane loads of American cash.

OAN Barbie.

Stacyhs · 24th November 2020, 06:51 PM

OAN Barbie still doesn't get it that it wasn't plane loads of cash and it their money to begin in the first place. Maybe Ken should explain it to her in one and two syllable words. Maybe a few drawings would help, too.

dudalb · 24th November 2020, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by turingtest

This is the way the GOP will pretend, going forward, that even though their guy lost the Presidency, they still have a complete right to dictate the policies of the one who won it. "Elections have consequences"- unless it's one Repubs lose, in which case, what election, there was an election?

So now educatin and ecpereince are bad is the new GOP mantra.
Problem for Little Marco is he is too well educated for the Trumpers...hell, he was a college profesor for a while.
Sas thing is Rubio is smart enough to know this is pure BS.

dudalb · 24th November 2020, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Marky is just starting early on trying to assume Trump's mantle. What he doesn't realize is that the pack will never follow a beta dog. This pack is going to need a new alpha.

Besided, Trumpy will let nobody assume the mantle except himself or one of his kids.

Blue Mountain · 25th November 2020, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

So now educatin and ecpereince are bad is the new GOP mantra.
Problem for Little Marco is he is too well educated for the Trumpers...hell, he was a college profesor for a while.
Sas thing is Rubio is smart enough to know this is pure BS.

Originally Posted by dudalb

Besided, Trumpy will let nobody assume the mantle except himself or one of his kids.

I'm trying not to call you out, but I've been seeing a lot of typos in your posts lately. Is it because you're delirious with happiness that Trump lost?

acbytesla · 25th November 2020, 03:40 PM

This video of Biden giving a Thanksgiving Address demonstrates the stark difference between Trump.

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Venom · 25th November 2020, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Besided, Trumpy will let nobody assume the mantle except himself or one of his kids.

Or a loyalist.

I think Trump is going to reach borderline Eternal President level, where anyone taking up the Trump mantle is going to have to throw his name out there every so often for the base.

SezMe · 25th November 2020, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Mountain

I'm trying not to call you out, but I've been seeing a lot of typos in your posts lately. Is it because you're delirious with happiness that Trump lost?

Lately?! dudalb does not proof his posts - never has.

Pixel42 · 25th November 2020, 11:03 PM

ISTR a poster giving a one time warning some time ago that health issues (a stroke?) would be making typing posts problematic for him. Might have been dudalb.

Checkmite · 28th November 2020, 12:16 AM

I suggest "Triceps" for his Secret Service name.

The Great Zaganza · 28th November 2020, 12:20 AM

What?!?
No incriminating open drawers full of drugs?
No asinine notes scribbled in sharpie?

I feel cheated!

rdaneel · 28th November 2020, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

What?!?
No incriminating open drawers full of drugs?
No asinine notes scribbled in sharpie?

I feel cheated!

He doesn't have a coaster under his coffee cup.

bonzombiekitty · 28th November 2020, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by rdaneel

He doesn't have a coaster under his coffee cup.

That's worse than a tan suit! That coffee cup might leave an easily cleanable mark on that writing pad! IMPEACH HIM!

sphenisc · 28th November 2020, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Checkmite

I suggest "Triceratops" for his Secret Service name.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En3Nuo9X...pg&name=medium

FTFY

SezMe · 28th November 2020, 05:53 PM

He's got the same desk chair that I have. Smart man - he should run for Prez.

Aridas · 29th November 2020, 12:54 AM

To jump in here with a somewhat relevant opinion piece...

What do progressives make of Joe Biden's cabinet picks so far?

The bad news for progressives is that there has not yet been a single person announced for an official post that the left can be enthusiastic about

The choices are still incredibly better than Trump's choices in so many ways, but they're not especially encouraging, in and of themselves.

To quote the last little bit -

Quote:

They may not be thieves or rightwing hardliners, and the Biden administration is sure to be a huge improvement on its disastrous predecessor. But progressives need to watch out: on immigration, the climate crisis and foreign policy, the administration needs to be subjected to ceaseless public pressure, its inevitable serious failings called out and exposed.

Yeah, not exactly going into this coming Presidency starry-eyed.

Firestone · 29th November 2020, 02:37 AM

Yeah, I understand the feeling. But, most of these have to be confirmed by a Republican controlled Senate, so Biden needs at least two of Romney, Murkowski or Collins for confirmation.
That's depressing for the left, but what should Biden do?
He is very limited in doing the Trump shtick with "acting" officials from the start, because these must have been confirmed by the Senate to a different position before, or be career officials.

Craig4 · 29th November 2020, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Aridas

To jump in here with a somewhat relevant opinion piece...

What do progressives make of Joe Biden's cabinet picks so far?

The bad news for progressives is that there has not yet been a single person announced for an official post that the left can be enthusiastic about

The choices are still incredibly better than Trump's choices in so many ways, but they're not especially encouraging, in and of themselves.

To quote the last little bit -

Yeah, not exactly going into this coming Presidency starry-eyed.

Progressives need to remember that Biden won because he's not a progressive. If a progressive candidate had secured the Democratic nomination we'd all be contemplating another four years of Trump.

Aridas · 29th November 2020, 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Progressives need to remember that Biden won because he's not a progressive. If a progressive candidate had secured the Democratic nomination we'd all be contemplating another four years of Trump.

I question that assertion, but I'll take the win that we got without complaining.

Even so, it's not wrong to be pointedly aware of the state of things and the way that we want them to go.

Garrison · 29th November 2020, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by Firestone

Yeah, I understand the feeling. But, most of these have to be confirmed by a Republican controlled Senate, so Biden needs at least two of Romney, Murkowski or Collins for confirmation.
That's depressing for the left, but what should Biden do?
He is very limited in doing the Trump shtick with "acting" officials from the start, because these must have been confirmed by the Senate to a different position before, or be career officials.

Maybe progressives should accept having a President who wants to rejoin the Paris Climate Accords, not lock children up in cages and protect the ACA is a win and concentrate their efforts on getting control of Congress so that maybe they might be able to get some real change enacted.

Craig4 · 29th November 2020, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by Aridas

I question that assertion, but I'll take the win that we got without complaining.

Even so, it's not wrong to be pointedly aware of the state of things and the way that we want them to go.

Progressives need to find points where they can get their camel's nose into the tent. They should rally around Medicare for those who need it and want it with a goal to out-compete private healthcare.

They should look to making college cheaper and free for some. Don't talk to the average American about a free business degree that you're going to use to get a job as a Wall Street bond trader. Talk about a free business degree that you're going to use at the Small Business Administration, Bureau of Indian Affairs or USAID.

The progressive wing of the Democratic Party needs to meet Americans where they are, not where they think they should be.

Delvo · 29th November 2020, 09:18 AM

Progressives need to not listen to anti-progressives telling them what progressives need to do.

wareyin · 29th November 2020, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Delvo

Progressives need to not listen to anti-progressives telling them what progressives need to do.

Because:

Progressives have been massively wrong when telling everyone else that Biden would lose. Or in fact that the only way to beat Trump was to go so far left that no centrist Democrat will vote for your candidate, much less any independent or Republican.
Progressives have consistently failed to get a progressive on the big ticket because (spoiler) relatively very few people are as progressive as they are, and (more importantly) no one is actually progressive enough for them.
Progressives have consistently failed to get the Presidency because progressives don't grow their numbers. Instead they thin their own ranks with purity tests and attacks on the left for not being progressive enough.

So with such a record, of course progressives should not listen to the massively more successful political parties for advice. Why, it's far easier to claim you would have done such a better job when you fail to get that job than it is to actually do the job when you get it. Just ask Trump!

Paul2 · 29th November 2020, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by wareyin

Because:

Progressives have been massively wrong when telling everyone else that Biden would lose. Or in fact that the only way to beat Trump was to go so far left that no centrist Democrat will vote for your candidate, much less any independent or Republican.
Progressives have consistently failed to get a progressive on the big ticket because (spoiler) relatively very few people are as progressive as they are, and (more importantly) no one is actually progressive enough for them.
Progressives have consistently failed to get the Presidency because progressives don't grow their numbers. Instead they thin their own ranks with purity tests and attacks on the left for not being progressive enough.

So with such a record, of course progressives should not listen to the massively more successful political parties for advice. Why, it's far easier to claim you would have done such a better job when you fail to get that job than it is to actually do the job when you get it. Just ask Trump!

Ouch.

Venom · 29th November 2020, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Progressives need to remember that Biden won because he's not a progressive. If a progressive candidate had secured the Democratic nomination we'd all be contemplating another four years of Trump.

Questionable reasoning there. More on this later.

Originally Posted by wareyin

Because:

Progressives have been massively wrong when telling everyone else that Biden would lose. Or in fact that the only way to beat Trump was to go so far left that no centrist Democrat will vote for your candidate, much less any independent or Republican.

I didn't see it as going far left as much as I thought progressives had the energy that most of the more moderate candidates lacked. Thank God Biden managed to edge out a victory.

Originally Posted by wareyin

Progressives have consistently failed to get a progressive on the big ticket because (spoiler) relatively very few people are as progressive as they are, and (more importantly) no one is actually progressive enough for them.
Progressives have consistently failed to get the Presidency because progressives don't grow their numbers. Instead they thin their own ranks with purity tests and attacks on the left for not being progressive enough.

There is substantial infighting among progressives and a lack of effective communication to the electorate.

Originally Posted by wareyin

So with such a record, of course progressives should not listen to the massively more successful political parties for advice. Why, it's far easier to claim you would have done such a better job when you fail to get that job than it is to actually do the job when you get it. Just ask Trump!

Obama ran as a progressive. "Hope and Change", universal healthcare, withdrawing from Iraq, do you really want "four more years" of Bush? [McCain], etc. His campaign was pretty successful on the heels of the disaster of W. Bush's two terms. Of course he didn't govern like a progressive but his model of grassroots campaigning with a progressive agenda was successful.

Now in today's hyperpolarized political landscape I think the main issue is this perception that these are extreme proposals of a fringe offshoot of the Democratic party. Again I think that popular progressives like Bernie Sanders and AOC don't communicate their ideas very well to people outside of the base. Don't double down on the socialist label in a country still filled with Silent Gens and Boomers who lived through the Cold War. Appeals to policies of other countries run into the doctrine of American exceptionalism. They should appeal to history of the U.S. instead; The Progressive Era, T. Roosevelt, Upton Sinclair, FDR, LBJ, hell, Nixon established the EPA.

24th November 2020, 08:03 AM	#281
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24th November 2020, 08:11 AM	#282
Distracted1 Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 5,184	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue We already went through the whole "OMG the Left is going to make it so another country owns us" thing back in the 80s/90s with Japan. This whole line of think reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of how inter-country economics works. Actually, back in the eighties, it was the Democrats who were in favor of protectionist policies. The trade Unions were screaming for it, Reagan, and his cohort, were against it.
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24th November 2020, 08:14 AM	#283
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24th November 2020, 08:16 AM	#284
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 96,063	Originally Posted by kookbreaker The tea party ran rather racist ads during the Obama admin of how our debt would mean the Chinese would soon own us. Then Trump won and deficits didn’t matter anymore. Utter nonsense - they mean everything, well from 20th January 2021 they will.
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24th November 2020, 08:17 AM	#285
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 96,063	Originally Posted by Distracted1 Actually, back in the eighties, it was the Democrats who were in favor of protectionist policies. The trade Unions were screaming for it, Reagan, and his cohort, were against it. Joe said “the left”....
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24th November 2020, 08:19 AM	#286
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: People's Democratic Republic of Planet X Posts: 39,585	Originally Posted by Darat Utter nonsense - they mean everything, well from 20th January 2021 they will. At noon, to be specific.
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24th November 2020, 08:20 AM	#287
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24th November 2020, 08:21 AM	#288
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24th November 2020, 08:56 AM	#289
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24th November 2020, 11:27 AM	#290
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 30,616	Originally Posted by dudalb After four years of ~~excitement~~, excrement boring sounds good to me. Fixed that for you. Confirmations should be "interesting". I expect Mitch will let most through eventually. Judges, on the other hand, I don't expect a single federal judge or SCOTUS nomination to be approved for the next two years.
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24th November 2020, 01:21 PM	#291
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 28,909	Originally Posted by Venom Individual Congressmen have to grow a spine and stand up to their so-called leaders' ******** from time to time. The few "swing Senators" are essentially held hostage by their own party. The Dems need to start a concerted effort to subvert at least a few GOP senators to their cause. There's got to be a weak link or two, who want something the Dems can offer. At the same time, Biden should direct the CIA and FBI to figure out what kompromat the Russians gave Trump to get Ted Cruz and Linsey Graham to turn into complete boot-licking yes-men, so they can use it themselves.
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24th November 2020, 02:13 PM	#292
turingtest Mistral, mistral wind... Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Embedded, reporting from Mississippi Posts: 4,541	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Marco Rubio tweets @marcorubio Biden’s cabinet picks went to Ivy League schools,have strong resumes,attend all the right conferences & will be polite & orderly caretakers of America’s decline I support American greatness And I have no interest in returning to the “normal” that left us dependent on China This is the way the GOP will pretend, going forward, that even though their guy lost the Presidency, they still have a complete right to dictate the policies of the one who won it. "Elections have consequences"- unless it's one Repubs lose, in which case, what election, there was an election?
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24th November 2020, 02:29 PM	#293
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State. Posts: 22,330	Originally Posted by turingtest This is the way the GOP will pretend, going forward, that even though their guy lost the Presidency, they still have a complete right to dictate the policies of the one who won it. "Elections have consequences"- unless it's one Repubs lose, in which case, what election, there was an election? Marky is just starting early on trying to assume Trump's mantle. What he doesn't realize is that the pack will never follow a beta dog. This pack is going to need a new alpha.
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24th November 2020, 04:03 PM	#294
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,372	Kayleigh McEnany tweeted @kayleighmcenany Apparently Biden’s pick for Secretary of State can serenade the Iranian mullahs with guitar tunes while they ship over more plane loads of American cash.

24th November 2020, 05:36 PM	#295
dirtywick Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,870	The GOP may not hold the Senate
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24th November 2020, 05:39 PM	#296
Resume Troublesome Passenger Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 18,657	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Kayleigh McEnany tweeted @kayleighmcenany Apparently Biden’s pick for Secretary of State can serenade the Iranian mullahs with guitar tunes while they ship over more plane loads of American cash. OAN Barbie.

24th November 2020, 06:51 PM	#297
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,411	OAN Barbie still doesn't get it that it wasn't plane loads of cash and it their money to begin in the first place. Maybe Ken should explain it to her in one and two syllable words. Maybe a few drawings would help, too.

24th November 2020, 11:08 PM	#298
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 49,933	Originally Posted by turingtest This is the way the GOP will pretend, going forward, that even though their guy lost the Presidency, they still have a complete right to dictate the policies of the one who won it. "Elections have consequences"- unless it's one Repubs lose, in which case, what election, there was an election? So now educatin and ecpereince are bad is the new GOP mantra. Problem for Little Marco is he is too well educated for the Trumpers...hell, he was a college profesor for a while. Sas thing is Rubio is smart enough to know this is pure BS.
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24th November 2020, 11:09 PM	#299
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 49,933	Originally Posted by Craig4 Marky is just starting early on trying to assume Trump's mantle. What he doesn't realize is that the pack will never follow a beta dog. This pack is going to need a new alpha. Besided, Trumpy will let nobody assume the mantle except himself or one of his kids.
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25th November 2020, 11:15 AM	#300
Blue Mountain Resident Skeptical Hobbit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waging war on woo-woo in Winnipeg Posts: 6,395	Originally Posted by dudalb So now educatin and ecpereince are bad is the new GOP mantra. Problem for Little Marco is he is too well educated for the Trumpers...hell, he was a college profesor for a while. Sas thing is Rubio is smart enough to know this is pure BS. Originally Posted by dudalb Besided, Trumpy will let nobody assume the mantle except himself or one of his kids. I'm trying not to call you out, but I've been seeing a lot of typos in your posts lately. Is it because you're delirious with happiness that Trump lost?
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25th November 2020, 04:18 PM	#302
Venom Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,851	Originally Posted by dudalb Besided, Trumpy will let nobody assume the mantle except himself or one of his kids. Or a loyalist. I think Trump is going to reach borderline Eternal President level, where anyone taking up the Trump mantle is going to have to throw his name out there every so often for the base.

25th November 2020, 06:58 PM	#303
SezMe post-pre-born Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 24,833	Originally Posted by Blue Mountain I'm trying not to call you out, but I've been seeing a lot of typos in your posts lately. Is it because you're delirious with happiness that Trump lost? Lately?! dudalb does not proof his posts - never has.

25th November 2020, 11:03 PM	#304
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28th November 2020, 12:16 AM	#305
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28th November 2020, 12:20 AM	#306
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,375	What?!? No incriminating open drawers full of drugs? No asinine notes scribbled in sharpie? I feel cheated!
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28th November 2020, 12:27 AM	#307
rdaneel Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I'M IN THE PHONEBOOK! I'M SOMEBODY!!! Posts: 4,209	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza What?!? No incriminating open drawers full of drugs? No asinine notes scribbled in sharpie? I feel cheated! He doesn't have a coaster under his coffee cup.
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28th November 2020, 06:31 AM	#308
bonzombiekitty Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,709	Originally Posted by rdaneel He doesn't have a coaster under his coffee cup. That's worse than a tan suit! That coffee cup might leave an easily cleanable mark on that writing pad! IMPEACH HIM!

28th November 2020, 07:28 AM	#309
sphenisc Philosopher Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,362	Originally Posted by Checkmite I suggest "Triceratops" for his Secret Service name. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En3Nuo9X...pg&name=medium FTFY
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28th November 2020, 05:53 PM	#310
SezMe post-pre-born Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 24,833	He's got the same desk chair that I have. Smart man - he should run for Prez.

29th November 2020, 12:54 AM	#311
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 7,330	To jump in here with a somewhat relevant opinion piece... What do progressives make of Joe Biden's cabinet picks so far? The bad news for progressives is that there has not yet been a single person announced for an official post that the left can be enthusiastic about The choices are still incredibly better than Trump's choices in so many ways, but they're not especially encouraging, in and of themselves. To quote the last little bit - Quote: They may not be thieves or rightwing hardliners, and the Biden administration is sure to be a huge improvement on its disastrous predecessor. But progressives need to watch out: on immigration, the climate crisis and foreign policy, the administration needs to be subjected to ceaseless public pressure, its inevitable serious failings called out and exposed. Yeah, not exactly going into this coming Presidency starry-eyed.
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29th November 2020, 02:37 AM	#312
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,942	Yeah, I understand the feeling. But, most of these have to be confirmed by a Republican controlled Senate, so Biden needs at least two of Romney, Murkowski or Collins for confirmation. That's depressing for the left, but what should Biden do? He is very limited in doing the Trump shtick with "acting" officials from the start, because these must have been confirmed by the Senate to a different position before, or be career officials.
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29th November 2020, 02:48 AM	#313
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State. Posts: 22,330	Originally Posted by Aridas To jump in here with a somewhat relevant opinion piece... What do progressives make of Joe Biden's cabinet picks so far? The bad news for progressives is that there has not yet been a single person announced for an official post that the left can be enthusiastic about The choices are still incredibly better than Trump's choices in so many ways, but they're not especially encouraging, in and of themselves. To quote the last little bit - Yeah, not exactly going into this coming Presidency starry-eyed. Progressives need to remember that Biden won because he's not a progressive. If a progressive candidate had secured the Democratic nomination we'd all be contemplating another four years of Trump.
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29th November 2020, 03:46 AM	#314
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 7,330	Originally Posted by Craig4 Progressives need to remember that Biden won because he's not a progressive. If a progressive candidate had secured the Democratic nomination we'd all be contemplating another four years of Trump. I question that assertion, but I'll take the win that we got without complaining. Even so, it's not wrong to be pointedly aware of the state of things and the way that we want them to go.
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29th November 2020, 04:42 AM	#315
Garrison Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 5,471	Originally Posted by Firestone Yeah, I understand the feeling. But, most of these have to be confirmed by a Republican controlled Senate, so Biden needs at least two of Romney, Murkowski or Collins for confirmation. That's depressing for the left, but what should Biden do? He is very limited in doing the Trump shtick with "acting" officials from the start, because these must have been confirmed by the Senate to a different position before, or be career officials. Maybe progressives should accept having a President who wants to rejoin the Paris Climate Accords, not lock children up in cages and protect the ACA is a win and concentrate their efforts on getting control of Congress so that maybe they might be able to get some real change enacted.
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29th November 2020, 04:49 AM	#316
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State. Posts: 22,330	Originally Posted by Aridas I question that assertion, but I'll take the win that we got without complaining. Even so, it's not wrong to be pointedly aware of the state of things and the way that we want them to go. Progressives need to find points where they can get their camel's nose into the tent. They should rally around Medicare for those who need it and want it with a goal to out-compete private healthcare. They should look to making college cheaper and free for some. Don't talk to the average American about a free business degree that you're going to use to get a job as a Wall Street bond trader. Talk about a free business degree that you're going to use at the Small Business Administration, Bureau of Indian Affairs or USAID. The progressive wing of the Democratic Party needs to meet Americans where they are, not where they think they should be.
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