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Old 26th April 2019, 08:19 AM   #601
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No money was paid to North Korea for Otto Warmbier, not two Million Dollars, not anything else. This is not the Obama Administration that paid 1.8 Billion Dollars for four hostages, or gave five terroist hostages plus, who soon went back to battle, for traitor Sgt. Bergdahl!
There's much despicable about this tweet, of course, including his calling Bergdahl a traitor. That's significant since, far as I know, the court martial is ongoing and Trump is Commander-in-Chief...
According to Wiki, the trial is completed. He was fined, reduced in rank, and dishonorably discharged.

However, Trump had caused problems earlier in the trial with similar accusations of 'traitor' (which allowed the lawyers for Bergdahl to claim they couldn't get a fair trial).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowe_B..._court-martial
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Old 26th April 2019, 08:29 AM   #602
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Weirdo Tom Steyer, who didn’t have the “guts” or money to run for President, is still trying to remain relevant by putting himself on ads begging for impeachment. He doesn’t mention the fact that mine is perhaps the most successful first 2 year presidency in history & NO C OR O!
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Old 26th April 2019, 08:32 AM   #603
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Heading to Indianapolis to speak at the big NRA Conference. Love being in Indiana. The @NRA is getting stronger & stronger and doing some really great and important work. Having their powerful support has been vital to #MAGA!

Just out: Real GDP for First Quarter grew 3.2% at an annual rate. This is far above expectations or projections. Importantly, inflation VERY LOW. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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Old 26th April 2019, 09:09 AM   #604
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Heading to Indianapolis to speak at the big NRA Conference. Love being in Indiana. The @NRA is getting stronger & stronger and doing some really great and important work. Having their powerful support has been vital to #MAGA!
The NRA saw its income drop by $55 million last year. Its membership is declining. Its spent more than it took in in 2017. It continues to have legal and public relations headaches, from both its Russian ties, and from various states going after dubious insurance that the NRA sells.

Does that count as getting "stronger and stronger"?

On the other hand, Trump is quite familiar with failed businesses and Russian connections, so maybe he does see such things as "good".

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-nr...lion-in-income
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ions-gun-lobby
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...m-line-n898981
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Old 26th April 2019, 10:09 AM   #605
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The Indy Trump train has come out in force.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ind...amp/3576840002
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Old 26th April 2019, 12:01 PM   #606
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Spoke to Saudi Arabia and others about increasing oil flow. All are in agreement. The California tax on gasoline is causing big problems on pricing for that state. Speak to your Governor about reducing. Economic numbers, 3.2% GDP for what is often worst quarter, looking good!
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Old 26th April 2019, 12:03 PM   #607
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Donald J. Trump Retweeted his own words to the NRA

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"With God as our witness, we swear today that we will defend our rights, we will safeguard our freedoms, we will uphold our heritage, we will protect our Constitution, and we will make America stronger, prouder, safer and GREATER than ever before!”

"Under my Administration, we will never surrender American sovereignty to anyone. We will never allow foreign bureaucrats to trample on your Second Amendment freedoms. And that is why my Administration will never ratify the UN Arms Trade Treaty."

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Old 26th April 2019, 12:08 PM   #608
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The treaty does not affect domestic arms sales or the USA second amendment. It is designed to stop illegal sales of small arms between countries.
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Old 26th April 2019, 12:22 PM   #609
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
The treaty does not affect domestic arms sales or the USA second amendment. It is designed to stop illegal sales of small arms between countries.


Well, you elect a known conspiracy theorist to office, you get policies based on conspiracy theories.
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Old 26th April 2019, 12:24 PM   #610
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The treaty does not affect domestic arms sales or the USA second amendment. It is designed to stop illegal sales of small arms between countries.
An inconvenient truth for the Trump drones.
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Old 26th April 2019, 12:29 PM   #611
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
According to Wiki, the trial is completed. He was fined, reduced in rank, and dishonorably discharged.

However, Trump had caused problems earlier in the trial with similar accusations of 'traitor' (which allowed the lawyers for Bergdahl to claim they couldn't get a fair trial).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowe_B..._court-martial
Thank you. Obviously, I have not been paying attention but should have looked it up. To be sure, "desertion to shirk dangerous duty" and "misbehavior before the enemy" aren't what I'd call traitorous, even in a loose sense, but you know. It's Trump.
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Old 26th April 2019, 12:33 PM   #612
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At least Trump will never speak the Fourteen Words, because he won't be able to remember them.
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Old 26th April 2019, 02:11 PM   #613
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Donald J. Trump Retweeted his own words to the NRA

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"With God as our witness, we swear today that we will defend our rights, we will safeguard our freedoms, we will uphold our heritage, we will protect our Constitution
Starting (and ending) with the 2nd amendment. Freedom of speech? What is that?
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and we will make America stronger, prouder, safer and GREATER than ever before!”
Well, safer if you're a white male. Those are the only ones that count.
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"Under my Administration, we will never surrender American sovereignty to anyone.
Of course not.... The U.S. never has to surrender American sovereignty. Trump just gave it away to Russia.
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Old 26th April 2019, 03:15 PM   #614
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Of course not.... The U.S. never has to surrender American sovereignty. Trump just gave it away to Russia.
Trump is First and Best even at this!
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Old 26th April 2019, 07:07 PM   #615
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Only 37% of those polled favor impeachment now.
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Old 27th April 2019, 02:36 AM   #616
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https://twitter.com/GQMagazine/statu...88804660039680

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On Thursday morning, the president's daughter-in-law said Angela Merkel's 2015 decision to admit approximately 1.1 million refugees was "one of the worst things that ever happened to Germany"
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Old 27th April 2019, 05:29 AM   #617
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Only 37% of those polled favor impeachment now.
Seth Abramson has a different take.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SethAbram...01863770402816
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Old 27th April 2019, 05:45 AM   #618
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Only 37% of those polled favor impeachment now.
These polls lack nuance, unfortunately. One might disfavor impeachment because they think Trump is blameless or that the accusations against Trump are less important than getting things done. In that case, impeachment would turn them off the Democrats.

One might think impeachment will hurt the party by energizing the Republican base and those mentioned above, even though impeachment is warranted by the strength of the accusations and their significance. This purely political consideration would not make them more likely to vote for Trump in 2020 if impeachment proceeds.

I find it hard to believe that most who accept the claims of the Mueller report and take the time to think about it as dispassionately as they can would doubt that these accusations are significant enough to warrant impeachment. In an ideal world, Trump ought to be impeached. I can also accept that impeachment has a significant probability that Trump will gain support in 2020. I don't think there is a very good chance that impeachment will result in removal from office.

I don't know where I stand. I am quite sympathetic to the opinion that impeachment shouldn't be decided merely on matters of political advantage. Yet I also see the wisdom in concluding that if impeachment is almost certain to result in Trump's vindication and increase his support (as Clinton's impeachment did), it is a fool's errand to impeach.

If I was surveyed, I might say that I oppose impeachment, but my response would be misleading. I think he ought, morally speaking, to be impeached. This is the right action to take as far as justice and good governance is concerned. The part of me that opposes impeachment is in conflict with the part of me that favors impeachment and even on those days that the former is ascendant, I kinda hope that Congress rejects such political considerations and does what they ought to do.
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Old 27th April 2019, 07:12 AM   #619
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Congratulations to Nick Bosa on being picked number two in the NFL Draft. You will be a great player for years to come, maybe one of the best. Big Talent! San Francisco will embrace you but most importantly, always stay true to yourself. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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Old 27th April 2019, 08:38 AM   #620
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At least Trump will never speak the Fourteen Words, because he won't be able to remember them.


It might be amusing to see him try...


“We must secure the existence of our people, who are very fine people, of course, the bigliest people in the world, we're just winning so much, and of course other people, but our people first of course, and then maybe others, and a future, a bright shiny future, you won't believe how great this future is going to be, but you'll see, eventually, in the future, that great future we're building for our - for white - children, just such beautiful children, well, I don't know if they'll have their mothers', well you know, but they'll be beautiful and white, and maybe black, who knows?”

It'd also be funny watching all the Trumpists trying to make "The 103 words" a thing.

The hand gestures while mentioning "their mothers', well you know" will of course be mandatory.
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Old 27th April 2019, 08:53 AM   #621
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

Congratulations to Nick Bosa on being picked number two in the NFL Draft. You will be a great player for years to come, maybe one of the best. Big Talent! San Francisco will embrace you but most importantly, always stay true to yourself. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
Sorry, Bosa is supposed to make America great again? What, restore our dominance in (American) football?
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Old 27th April 2019, 09:16 AM   #622
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

Congratulations to Nick Bosa on being picked number two in the NFL Draft. You will be a great player for years to come, maybe one of the best. Big Talent! San Francisco will embrace you but most importantly, always stay true to yourself. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
Reading responses to his tweets is just depressing. This idiot, "deep state exposed", is either insane, or a troll, or a Russian.
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Old 27th April 2019, 09:20 AM   #623
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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Congratulations to Nick Bosa on being picked number two in the NFL Draft. You will be a great player for years to come, maybe one of the best. Big Talent! San Francisco will embrace you but most importantly, always stay true to yourself. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
The Number 2 pick? Um, why not the #1 draft pick? I mean, Dolt 45 is full of #2, but...

(Mumbles looks up Bosa)

Ah. He's a white guy who insulted Colin Kaepernick and Beyonce, called Black Panther "the worst Marvel movie", and retweeted another white guy who promised to "use the N-word." It's worth noting that he scrubbed all of this, and has apologized for at least the stuff he said about Kaaepernick.

The #1 draft pick, Kyler Murray, has his own wikipedia page, and I can quickly see why Cheeto Benito ignored him.

This came around the same time the white supremacist president doubled down on his claim that there were "very fine people" marching around in Charolettesville chanting Nazi and white nationalist slogans, attacking an interfaith prayer meetup, and beating counterprotestors.

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The Governors of New Mexico, Oregon, Nevada, and Washington announced this past week that they will join California in not imposing the transgender military ban on their National Guards.
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Only 37% of those polled favor impeachment now.
Who are "those polled"? Republicans? If so, think about what that number really means...
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Old 27th April 2019, 02:38 PM   #626
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Average presidential approval ratings through this point in term via ABC/Post and Gallup polling:

Kennedy 73%
W Bush 71%
HW Bush 70%
Johnson 69%
Eisenhower 67%
Nixon 58%
Truman 56%
Obama 55%
Reagan 55%
Carter 52%
Clinton 51%
Ford 47%
Trump 38%
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Trump on the synagogue shooting...

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Looks like it's a hate crime. Hard to believe. Hard to believe.
Oh really. This from a person who encourages violence. Who caters to neo nazis. Who says that some of them are very good people.
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Who are "those polled"? Republicans? If so, think about what that number really means...
It means you are really out of touch with the situation in the US. It's a poll of Americans. Couldn't possibly be a poll of only Republicans.
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““I DID NOTHING WRONG,” Trump said.

Warning. I do not have conclusive or even reasonable evidence for this supposition.

The wording bothers me a bit. I’d be happier if he had said, “I did nothing illegal.” I’m worried that his concept of right and wrong does not perfectly correlate with the US’s concepts of legal and illegal. If DJT’s concept of right is anything that improves the economy (or his wallet) and laws that hinder his plans to do the “right” thing are inherently wrong, then it may be hard to convince him that his actions require a Congressional trial.
When it comes to his concept of right and wrong... Is it worth a reminder that this is a guy who was raised by crooks, surrounded by crooks his whole life, and eagerly does business with crooks?


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Because the Dems bet EVERYTHING on "Drumpf is a Russian Bot and Mueller will Lock Him Up!", and that just came crashing down in the last few weeks.
Or so Republican propaganda would have us believe, and it's just as truthful as much of the rest of the BS that is spouted.

In reality, Dems didn't even remotely bet everything on either of those premises (especially not the Mueller will Lock Him Up! bit) and nor did it actually come crashing down. Funny how that works.

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The fact that the National Debt approximately doubled under Obama makes it difficult for them to justify why that was OK, but what’s going on now isn’t.

Sure, there are reasons, but not the kind that lend themselves to a sound bite.
Hmm. I've corrected Trump supporters who were somehow under the impression that Trump and the Republicans were reducing the debt and deserve a bunch of praise for a sudden upsurge of growth while doing that... and that Obama deserves naught but scorn for massive spending that barely did anything more than keep the US afloat.

I question how useful soundbites actually are in the face of disinformation at that level.
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It means you are really out of touch with the situation in the US. It's a poll of Americans. Couldn't possibly be a poll of only Republicans.
And you walked right in.

Seriously, nearly 40% of all Americans believe that Trump should be impeached?? That is, that he face charges that could lead him to be forcibly removed from office after just 2 years from his swearing in? Is that not a spectacular failure right there?

ETA: 40% of 300 million is 120 million. The official Democratic Party membership is about 45 million. So even if all the Democrats in the USA are calling for impeachment (and they are not), there are still some 75 million of more non-Democrat Americans calling for impeachment. I suspect some of those will be Republicans...
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It is a trivial impediment to remove, if it even exists. So what's the point in discussing it?

Oh, because you're Bob. That's why.
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Trump Tweeted

Weirdo ...
It's so disappointing that we have a president that resorts to such language. He's just not worthy of the position.
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Great day with Prime Minister @AbeShinzo of Japan. We played a quick round of golf by the beautiful Potomac River while talking Trade and many other subjects. He has now left for Japan and I am on my way to Wisconsin where a very large crowd of friends await!
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Thank you to brilliant and highly respected attorney Alan Dershowitz for destroying the very dumb legal argument of “Judge” Andrew Napolitano....

....Ever since Andrew came to my office to ask that I appoint him to the U.S. Supreme Court, and I said NO, he has been very hostile! Also asked for pardon for his friend. A good “pal” of low ratings Shepard Smith.
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The Democratic National Committee, sometimes referred to as the DNC, is again working its magic in its quest to destroy Crazy Bernie Sanders....

....for the more traditional, but not very bright, Sleepy Joe Biden. Here we go again Bernie, but this time please show a little more anger and indignation when you get screwed!
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And you walked right in.

Seriously, nearly 40% of all Americans believe that Trump should be impeached?? That is, that he face charges that could lead him to be forcibly removed from office after just 2 years from his swearing in? Is that not a spectacular failure right there?

ETA: 40% of 300 million is 120 million. The official Democratic Party membership is about 45 million. So even if all the Democrats in the USA are calling for impeachment (and they are not), there are still some 75 million of more non-Democrat Americans calling for impeachment. I suspect some of those will be Republicans...
And it’s not as if the other 63% believe he is innocent of all charges. There are probably plenty of Americans who think he shouldn’t be impeached because the Senate is guaranteed to acquit him. That would be a big victory for Trump and might lead to him getting re-elected in 2020.

I’m not an American, but if I were, that would be my position. I want to see him rejected by the American people in 2020 and then indicted for the numerous crimes he has surely committed. As far as I can see, all impeachment followed by conviction does is get you fired (although that, in itself, would be deliciously ironic in the case of Trump), and your replacement can pardon you. Trump needs to do jail time.
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....Ever since Andrew came to my office to ask that I appoint him to the U.S. Supreme Court, and I said NO, he has been very hostile!...
Hard to believe a U.S. president wrote those words. Why did he capitalize the word no? This reads like something a jr high school kid would write. Not even high school. Most kids, by the time they get to high school, they're more nuanced, they begin to see gray, life is no longer just black or white. We have a 14-year-old in the White House.
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So Neapolitano would have been a Supreme Court judge if he just been nicer?
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
And you walked right in.

Seriously, nearly 40% of all Americans believe that Trump should be impeached?? That is, that he face charges that could lead him to be forcibly removed from office after just 2 years from his swearing in? Is that not a spectacular failure right there?

ETA: 40% of 300 million is 120 million. The official Democratic Party membership is about 45 million. So even if all the Democrats in the USA are calling for impeachment (and they are not), there are still some 75 million of more non-Democrat Americans calling for impeachment. I suspect some of those will be Republicans...
Certainly some will be Republicans. The former transition team member who wrote an article in Vanity Fair (?) is an example.

But Trump's approval rating among Republicans is extraordinarily high. Not too damned many Republicans support impeachment, as percentages go.
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...and that Obama deserves naught but scorn...
My observation was simply that the National Debt doubled under Obama.

I did not mean to imply any “scorn”, just stating a fact.

But going back, during his campaign, Obama said Bush’s debt increases were “unpatriotic”.

Plenty of hypocrisy to go around. “On both sides...”
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