Modern day slavery

Horhang · 5th December 2021, 11:23 AM

Good on INS and Homeland Security for uncovering this and bringing these people to justice.

https://nordot.app/83965400915314278...22757532812385

Craig4 · 5th December 2021, 01:28 PM

Great bust. I am a bit confused why unlawful detention and kidnapping weren't among the charges.

shemp · 5th December 2021, 03:35 PM

I wonder if the Vidalia onion I chopped up yesterday was produced with slave labor? I shouldn't be surprised though, I'm sure the migrant farm labor industry has much more of this going on. There need to be greater efforts to stop this.

Craig4 · 5th December 2021, 04:21 PM

What we've always needed in this country is a viable guest worker programs that allows the worker to apply self sponsored and that worker can choose to whom he will sell his labor. The process that exists now, the farmer or labor broker sponsors the worker and it lends itself to this sort of thing. If you had laborers who could choose for whom they work it would make these scenarios at least harder.

As it is now, the farm or the labor broker selects who they bring in and those people can only work on that farm. If that person doesn't like the conditions or the pay on that farm, they can either put up with it or go back to their country.

Graham2001 · 5th December 2021, 06:45 PM

There was a similar incident on a much smaller scale in Australia a few months back. A couple were charged with keeping an 'indentured servant' for the past eight years, they were tried and found guilty. Here is the announcement of the trials outcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP_BlVtkad8

Athyrio · 5th December 2021, 09:30 PM

Nothing new to me. This crap has been going on for years in the alcohol and drug community in my section of the USA. Interesting to see that the immigrant community is now a target, probably much easier to deal with given the border stuff.

I remember seeing an episode of Barney Miller dealing with the same subject at the same time I was dealing with it.

It's real and it does exist in the USA. Other countries I cannot attest for.

The Atheist · 6th December 2021, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by Athyrio

This crap has been going on for years in the alcohol and drug community in my section of the USA...

It's real and it does exist in the USA. Other countries I cannot attest for.

Interestingly, in NZ we've had a spate of slave labour cases recently, and most of them were "employees" in alcohol shops.

Graham2001 · 6th December 2021, 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by Athyrio

I remember seeing an episode of Barney Miller dealing with the same subject at the same time I was dealing with it.

It was in season 6, the episode summary on wikipedia states the plot revolves around the embassy of what is now called Myanmar.

Upchurch · 6th December 2021, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by Horhang

Good on INS and Homeland Security for uncovering this and bringing these people to justice.

https://nordot.app/83965400915314278...22757532812385

Aside: I’ve spent too much time on twitter late. I saw the thread title and thought, “Jesus, not more crap about paying taxes!l

Athyrio · 6th December 2021, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Graham2001

It was in season 6, the episode summary on wikipedia states the plot revolves around the embassy of what is now called Myanmar.

I remember that one (I’m a Barney Miller junkie) but the one I was thinking about was the character named Ray who first appeared at an open house kind of thing for the 12th precinct and appeared in a few other episodes but one involved abductions of bums from the Salvation Army or wherever it was that Ray was wintering and Harris went underground and got carted off to the fields, year 6, episode 13.

This actually happened to one of my clients. He was abducted from Georgia to a farm in South Carolina. He managed to escape but said the other captives warned him that the county sheriff was on the take involving the situation.

5th December 2021, 11:23 AM	#1
Horhang Scholar Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 119	Modern day slavery Good on INS and Homeland Security for uncovering this and bringing these people to justice. https://nordot.app/83965400915314278...22757532812385
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5th December 2021, 03:35 PM	#3
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: People's Democratic Republic of Planet X Posts: 47,635	I wonder if the Vidalia onion I chopped up yesterday was produced with slave labor? I shouldn't be surprised though, I'm sure the migrant farm labor industry has much more of this going on. There need to be greater efforts to stop this.
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5th December 2021, 06:45 PM	#5
Graham2001 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,568	There was a similar incident on a much smaller scale in Australia a few months back. A couple were charged with keeping an 'indentured servant' for the past eight years, they were tried and found guilty. Here is the announcement of the trials outcome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP_BlVtkad8
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5th December 2021, 09:30 PM	#6
Athyrio Hipster Doofus Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nutsack, FL Posts: 2,333	Nothing new to me. This crap has been going on for years in the alcohol and drug community in my section of the USA. Interesting to see that the immigrant community is now a target, probably much easier to deal with given the border stuff. I remember seeing an episode of Barney Miller dealing with the same subject at the same time I was dealing with it. It's real and it does exist in the USA. Other countries I cannot attest for.
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6th December 2021, 01:48 AM	#7
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 31,736	Originally Posted by Athyrio This crap has been going on for years in the alcohol and drug community in my section of the USA... It's real and it does exist in the USA. Other countries I cannot attest for. Interestingly, in NZ we've had a spate of slave labour cases recently, and most of them were "employees" in alcohol shops.
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5th December 2021, 01:28 PM	#2
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 25,147	Great bust. I am a bit confused why unlawful detention and kidnapping weren't among the charges.

5th December 2021, 04:21 PM	#4
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 25,147	What we've always needed in this country is a viable guest worker programs that allows the worker to apply self sponsored and that worker can choose to whom he will sell his labor. The process that exists now, the farmer or labor broker sponsors the worker and it lends itself to this sort of thing. If you had laborers who could choose for whom they work it would make these scenarios at least harder. As it is now, the farm or the labor broker selects who they bring in and those people can only work on that farm. If that person doesn't like the conditions or the pay on that farm, they can either put up with it or go back to their country.

6th December 2021, 03:32 AM	#8
Graham2001 Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,568	Originally Posted by Athyrio I remember seeing an episode of Barney Miller dealing with the same subject at the same time I was dealing with it. It was in season 6, the episode summary on wikipedia states the plot revolves around the embassy of what is now called Myanmar.
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6th December 2021, 05:16 AM	#9
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 32,844	Originally Posted by Horhang Good on INS and Homeland Security for uncovering this and bringing these people to justice. https://nordot.app/83965400915314278...22757532812385 Aside: I’ve spent too much time on twitter late. I saw the thread title and thought, “Jesus, not more crap about paying taxes!l
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6th December 2021, 09:50 PM	#10
Athyrio Hipster Doofus Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nutsack, FL Posts: 2,333	Originally Posted by Graham2001 It was in season 6, the episode summary on wikipedia states the plot revolves around the embassy of what is now called Myanmar. I remember that one (I’m a Barney Miller junkie) but the one I was thinking about was the character named Ray who first appeared at an open house kind of thing for the 12th precinct and appeared in a few other episodes but one involved abductions of bums from the Salvation Army or wherever it was that Ray was wintering and Harris went underground and got carted off to the fields, year 6, episode 13. This actually happened to one of my clients. He was abducted from Georgia to a farm in South Carolina. He managed to escape but said the other captives warned him that the county sheriff was on the take involving the situation.
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