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Old 24th May 2017, 11:35 AM   #41
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It has been a week. is that long enough to call this a farce?
Give it some more time. Louise Mensch will find and release the impeach imp yet!
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Old 24th May 2017, 11:38 AM   #42
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I don't know if they are right or not. I know you can't sue the President as he has Soverign Immunity. Maybe that covers criminal charges as well. As I said, during the Watergate scandal they were indicting everyone around Nixon and made him the un-indicted co-conspirator. So probably.
Not really, you can sue the president, see the whole paula jones thing. Or any of the current lawsuits against trump.

The president only has immunity for his actions as a president. So if he orders the FBI to kill you, immunity, killing you himself with a bat no immunity.
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Old 27th May 2017, 11:06 PM   #43
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Any updates on this "breaking news?" Or is it broken?
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Old 27th May 2017, 11:09 PM   #44
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Something popped up on someone's Facebook. That's pretty serious.
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Old 27th May 2017, 11:40 PM   #45
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Any updates on this "breaking news?" Or is it broken?
Hope springs eternal.

I guess the idea was that they clear the courthouse when they are about to issue Federal Indictments from a Grand Jury. Or something.
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Old 28th May 2017, 09:24 PM   #46
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Vox has a long article today on the conspiracy theories being pushed by Taylor and Louise Mensch:



Mensch's website is here; her latest "Exclusive" is Comey's FBI Computer Illegally Accessed; Data Given to Russian Diplomats. Call me just a tad skeptical on that one. Mensch actually wrote an Oped piece in the New York Times two months ago telling Congress how to investigate the Russia-Trump ties.

Slate has since followed up:

The Rise of the Liberal Conspiracy Theorist

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Louise Mensch’s loony Trump fantasies fill a craving the left didn’t know it had.
May 24, 2017 Cover Story

You may have heard on the internet last week that, according to “multiple sources close to the intelligence, justice, and law enforcement communities,” the marshal of the Supreme Court had commenced the sacred impeachment-notification rite—you know, the one you learned about in civics class, in which the marshal marches to the White House in a cool costume and tells the president that proceedings for his removal have begun. “The notification was given, as part of the formal process of the matter, in order that Mr. Trump knew he was not able to use his powers of pardon against other suspects in Trump-Russia cases,” Louise Mensch explained on her website Patribotics. She added, “Sources have confirmed that the Marshal of the Supreme Court spoke to Mr. Trump.”
Wow, so Trump is secretly being impeached and the mainstream media isn't reporting about it? Come on.

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Sources with links to the intelligence, justice, and literary communities tell me that Mensch’s overheated, conspiratorial prose is very easy to mock. After her Supreme Court marshal “scoop” started to crawl across the web, pundits ridiculed it as the “saddest fanfic ever” and “another hot scoop rooted in finely granular knowledge of how the U.S. government does not operate.”
This is clearly alternate reality stuff here. It's WND or Infowars for the left. It's FEMA camps and black helicopters.
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Old 28th May 2017, 09:52 PM   #47
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The idea that the mainstream media is somehow missing out on real news of bad things happening to President Trump should have your skepticism warning signals flashing red. As should the phrase, "Twitter reporter."
Jared Yates Sexton (writer for the NYT and New Republic) explains why the MSM seems so far behind the curve here:

https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/868255116859555840
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Old 28th May 2017, 09:53 PM   #48
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That information may be forthcoming as this just happened within the last hour or so.

Related: Many of the cases dropped from the schedule were removed to other courthouses entirely without a change of venue request. Very very rare for that to happen.
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Old 28th May 2017, 09:56 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
Slate has since followed up:

The Rise of the Liberal Conspiracy Theorist



Wow, so Trump is secretly being impeached and the mainstream media isn't reporting about it? Come on.



This is clearly alternate reality stuff here. It's WND or Infowars for the left. It's FEMA camps and black helicopters.
And yet, if you pay attention, Taylor and Mensch have been proven right many times in the past.

You'll note that right after the reporting on the target letter started, the regime started "lawyering up" big time. In fact, their lawyer was in the WH over the holiday weekend, which is NOT normal practice at all.
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Old 29th May 2017, 04:04 AM   #50
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If there was any there, there, something would have come of all this "unusual activity" in your OP. Was that not your insinuation?
Mensch puts together stuff that sounds major serious, but means nothing. Just what the hell would the Marshal of the Supreme Court be talking to Trump about. Has Donnie threatened one of the Justices? The title sounds impressive, but that role does not do what Mensch would like us to think it does.

I'm taking the position that all News-By-Twitter is dismissed as B.S. until something more is presented. And the time gap for that "something more" should be in hours, not weeks.

The usually reliable sources Tweeted out last Wednesday that we'd be launching a strike against North Korea, possible over the weekend but preferably on His Royal Orangitude's return from his overseas boondoggles.

I give that about as much credit as I do Louise Mensch. Imaginary subpoenas are pretty much the same as imaginary invasions. When either happens, PM me. People with no real reason to have such sources claiming to have inside sources would seem to largely be attention whores.
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Old 29th May 2017, 05:41 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
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If there was any there, there, something would have come of all this "unusual activity" in your OP. Was that not your insinuation?
Mensch puts together stuff that sounds major serious, but means nothing. Just what the hell would the Marshal of the Supreme Court be talking to Trump about. Has Donnie threatened one of the Justices? The title sounds impressive, but that role does not do what Mensch would like us to think it does.
According to the sources, the marshal was sent to remind Trump he was under court order to produce the so-called "Gulianni memo", a vital piece of evidence in several cases, as well as to preserve documentation/evidence in general. This would be a wise move given several instances where it has been said or implied that the WH has been engaged in purging potentially incriminating information.

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I'm taking the position that all News-By-Twitter is dismissed as B.S. until something more is presented. And the time gap for that "something more" should be in hours, not weeks.
Not everything that is done is fully visible to us outsiders. The sudden clearing of the docket was multiply confirmed and is a highly unusual occurrence in what is known to be a rocket docket. They must have needed those judges for something important.

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I give that about as much credit as I do Louise Mensch. Imaginary subpoenas are pretty much the same as imaginary invasions. When either happens, PM me. People with no real reason to have such sources claiming to have inside sources would seem to largely be attention whores.
Then how do you explain Taylor, Mensch, et al being right on several occasions?

Nonetheless, it seems that any activity has settled down for the moment, so there is nothing more to say at this time.
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Old 29th May 2017, 05:47 AM   #52
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Originally Posted by ChristianProgressive View Post
According to the sources, the marshal was sent to remind Trump he was under court order to produce the so-called "Gulianni memo", a vital piece of evidence in several cases, as well as to preserve documentation/evidence in general. This would be a wise move given several instances where it has been said or implied that the WH has been engaged in purging potentially incriminating information.
The Giuliani memo pertains to the travel ban. It has nothing to do with anything else.

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Not everything that is done is fully visible to us outsiders. The sudden clearing of the docket was multiply confirmed and is a highly unusual occurrence in what is known to be a rocket docket. They must have needed those judges for something important.
No.

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Then how do you explain Taylor, Mensch, et al being right on several occasions?

Nonetheless, it seems that any activity has settled down for the moment, so there is nothing more to say at this time.
The Texas sharpshooter fallacy combined with your willingness to turn misses into hits. The only thing Mensch et al. have gotten right is that there was a FISA warrant and they've been dining out like fat cats on that.
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Old 29th May 2017, 05:59 AM   #53
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Then how do you explain Taylor, Mensch, et al being right on several occasions?
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Two reasons. One is fallacy on your part to attribute misses as hits. Even your comment about lawyering up above is similar to fitting personal life facts around a cold reading.

Second is that being a government employee does not require being a skeptic. There are people working in government who believe the garbage conspiracy theorists spew. So, they will leak stuff to them thinking they are legitimate news. But the conspiracy theorist is still a BS machine at heart.
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Old 29th May 2017, 06:18 AM   #54
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No.
"No" the EDVA is not known as a rocket docket or "No" they would in fact clear the schedules just for the heck of it?
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Old 29th May 2017, 07:07 AM   #55
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The Marshal of the Supreme Court of the United States is not a process server or a messenger for the DoJ. He is the security for the Justices and the Court premises.

Don't trust me; look it up. This is what I mean by stuff that sounds good. It's like the Citizens' Jury that was going to indict Bush and Cheney when 911 CT was a young lefty fad and night a rightwing anti-semite cause. Remember "We need them testifying under oath"... Ignoring that we're accusing them of being complicit in the murder of 4000 Americans and that lying under oath would be like water off a duck's back. But, hey, it sounded all official-y and legal-y.

That's the same as this. "I have it from good sources that the Marshal of the Supreme Court paid Trump a visit." For what? The Supremes aren't an investigative body nor a LEO body. The Marshal is kinda the head cop for the building and the head of their security.

It's an absolutely absurd tidbit, just thrown in like most pathological liars (see our POTUS) because it seems to lend a little weight to the story. There is no such secret indictment. If there was/is it would not be in the Supreme Court, fer crissake! Don't these people know how the government works?
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Old 30th May 2017, 11:31 AM   #56
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Okay, so broadsword six said he/she confirmed with three people, but people are testing it on twitter and are freely walking into the courthouse.

Can we ignore this group now?
I'm waiting until we hear back from Danny Boy.
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