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Old 25th March 2020, 08:39 AM   #1
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Does Perpetual Outrage lead to Fake news?

Marriages being too easy, etc..... a myriad of tweaked facts and all of a sudden we're mad as hell and we're gonna get us some outrage!
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Old 25th March 2020, 08:43 AM   #2
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No. The idea that being dramatic is a worse sin the being evil is leading to people becoming psychopaths though.
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Marriages being too easy, etc..... a myriad of tweaked facts and all of a sudden we're mad as hell and we're gonna get us some outrage!
Perhaps you're not understanding what this forum is for? Sometimes people post things that they aren't outraged about but maybe they'd like feedback, or find it to be interesting, or would like to compare it to other's experiences.

Talking about something doesn't mean you're outraged. Maybe that's why you think everyone is "outraged" by some of the nonsensical stuff you post? People aren't mad, you're projecting how you react when you read things on to other people. Now would be a good time to grow.
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Old 25th March 2020, 09:03 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by plague311 View Post
Perhaps you're not understanding what this forum is for? Sometimes people post things that they aren't outraged about but maybe they'd like feedback, or find it to be interesting, or would like to compare it to other's experiences.

Talking about something doesn't mean you're outraged. Maybe that's why you think everyone is "outraged" by some of the nonsensical stuff you post? People aren't mad, you're projecting how you react when you read things on to other people. Now would be a good time to grow.
I was referring to a narrow subsection of the forum. It seems to happen daily from certain fronts. It is caused by tweaked if not fake news.
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There is no Fake News, at least in the sense you're using the term.

You just want to live in a Post-Fact world.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
No. The idea that being dramatic is a worse sin the being evil is leading to people becoming psychopaths though.
Oof, now that's a spicy meatball.
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
I was referring to a narrow subsection of the forum. It seems to happen daily from certain fronts. It is caused by tweaked if not fake news.
Yeah, well, we don't read minds around here. So if you have a point to make, make it. I still have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

I read the marriage thread and no one seemed to be "outraged". It was just a conversation starter. Again...projection.
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
I was referring to a narrow subsection of the forum. It seems to happen daily from certain fronts. It is caused by tweaked if not fake news.
Narrow subsection of the forum? More like one particular user that you’ve got a bit of boner for.
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it's all cyclical, imo.

Without going into any specific examples (pick your favourite "enemy"),

1) headline is misleading, written to get clicks/views (anger, shock, sensational stuff)
2) article itself is filled with cherrypicked information or framed a specific way which misleads vast majority of people (relevant facts, legal basis, missing nuance, etc.)
3) people read only the headline, become mad. Some people read article, still become mad
4) political ideologues take screenshots or headlines, misleading subsections of articles, post on twitter
5) people read just the screenshot, take everything at face value framed in worst possible light and retweet, like.
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I'm getting that feeling where it seems like a thread is a spin-off of some other thread but no one is directly pointing that out.
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Old 26th March 2020, 09:18 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
I was referring to a narrow subsection of the forum. It seems to happen daily from certain fronts. It is caused by tweaked if not fake news.
There is no Fake News, at least in the sense you're using the term.

You just want to live in a Post-Fact world.

... and are outraged because you can't.
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It is caused by tweaked if not fake news.

Would you please give an example of "fake news" as you're using the term?
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Your questions takes me back to the discussion on whether emotion or intellect is more beneficial for humans. I accept that outrage is an emotion. That outrage could be predicated on an intellectual or an emotional foundation. If outrage is based on the latter, I could see how the intellect would be more likely to rationalize in a post hoc manner to support that outrage. That type of statistical analysis if fraught with errors (cognitive bias).

I think the world is too nuanced to create a universal rule that can be applied to answer your question. I think we need specifics.

If those that continually perpetuate outrage have an underlying intent of enacting change they may be engaging in maladaptive behavior because a perpetual state of outrage can lead to outrage fatigue.
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Old 26th March 2020, 10:51 AM   #15
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Would you please give an example of "fake news" as you're using the term?
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Your questions takes me back to the discussion on whether emotion or intellect is more beneficial for humans. I accept that outrage is an emotion.
Our options are not limited to "Straw Vulcan robots" and "Reality denying psychopaths."

"I'm literally going to reject the concept of facts to spite da libruls regardless of the damage that causes" can't be shrugged off via the old "Well you can't expect people to act rationally all the time" copout.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Our options are not limited to "Straw Vulcan robots" and "Reality denying psychopaths."

"I'm literally going to reject the concept of facts to spite da libruls regardless of the damage that causes" can't be shrugged off via the old "Well you can't expect people to act rationally all the time" copout.
i did not profess the false dichotomy you created. The only portion of my claim that you quoted was that outrage is an emotional reaction. Is that something you agree with or disagree with?
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Fake News equals anything negative about Dear Leader in the White House.
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Declaring anything that disagrees with what you want to hear "Fake news" or "biased" is the easiest way to create a functionally fact free world.
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Fake News equals anything negative about Dear Leader in the White House.
I pretty much disregard the opinion of anyone who utters the words “Fake News” except in an ironic manner.

Saves a lot of time not listening to dickeads.
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Perhaps you're not understanding what this forum is for? Sometimes people post things that they aren't outraged about but maybe they'd like feedback, or find it to be interesting, or would like to compare it to other's experiences.

Talking about something doesn't mean you're outraged. Maybe that's why you think everyone is "outraged" by some of the nonsensical stuff you post? People aren't mad, you're projecting how you react when you read things on to other people. Now would be a good time to grow.
It's best not to feed trolls. Anyone who preaches that you shouldn't be outraged by evil people doing outrageous things does not have the public interest in mind.
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Narrow subsection of the forum? More like one particular user that you’ve got a bit of boner for.
For the record, I don't swing that way. Maybe Lenningrad Lindsey Graham is looking?
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I'm getting that feeling where it seems like a thread is a spin-off of some other thread but no one is directly pointing that out.
The OP just doesn't like the fact that people are outraged by some of the crap his side of the political isle is pulling.
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The OP just doesn't like the fact that people are outraged by some of the crap his side of the political isle is pulling.
Certain outraged responders don't see the greater non partisan side of things and from that bubble fail to see the bigger picture.

Trump sucks
Mitch sucks
Lindsay sucks
Bernie is unelectable for being a Socialist
Hillary was no better than Trump and AOC is a threat to National security at the moment.

Next...
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Certain outraged responders don't see the greater non partisan side of things and from that bubble fail to see the bigger picture.

Trump sucks
Mitch sucks
Lindsay sucks
Bernie is unelectable for being a Socialist
Hillary was no better than Trump and AOC is a threat to National security at the moment.

Next...

rockysmith76: As she champions Illegal Immigrants, is AOC a threat to National Security? (ISF, March 30, 2020)
You seem to think that making a new thread in outrage proves your claim that perpetual outrage leads to fake news.

Next ...
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Does perpetual outrage lead to fake news?

Yes, I think most fake news does stem from perpetual outrage.




As an aside I love the use of the nickname "Perpetual Outrage" for Trump. Huge congratulations to whomever came up with it.
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Certain outraged responders don't see the greater non partisan side of things and from that bubble fail to see the bigger picture.

Trump sucks ...sweaty dog's balls
Mitch sucks ...sweaty Trump balls
Lindsay sucks ...his own sweaty balls
Bernie is unelectable for being a Socialist ...who is still more right-wing than most other western countries.
Hillary was no better than Trump ...but she's got more balls than him.
and AOC is a threat to National security at the moment. ...because...gee...she's brown and Hispanic and female.

Next...
More detail provided to clarify the situation.
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Certain outraged responders don't see the greater non partisan side of things and from that bubble fail to see the bigger picture.

Trump sucks
Mitch sucks
Lindsay sucks
Bernie is unelectable for being a Socialist
Hillary was no better than Trump and AOC is a threat to National security at the moment.

Next...

For someone who puts on airs of not being "outraged" and being "non-partisan", you really should try not being so obviously outraged and partisan.

Republicans with real power, who are actively using that power to demolish democratic norms, while dragging their feet in response to a global pandemic? Oh, they just "suck". But a freshman Representative with very little real governmental power? She's a threat to national security!

Do you really think you are soooo clever that none of us see through your act? Why do you even bother with this pretense? Do you imagine there is some silent audience here at the ISF that's being fooled?
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Do you really think you are soooo clever that none of us see through your act? Why do you even bother with this pretense? Do you imagine there is some silent audience here at the ISF that's being fooled?
Of course not. It being an act is the point. Getting the reaction is the point.

There's a term for that, but we're not allowed to suggest people are doing it.
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the political isle
Now there's a containment strategy I can get behind.
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As an aside I love the use of the nickname "Perpetual Outrage" for Trump. Huge congratulations to whomever came up with it.

That's a different thread.
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Certain outraged responders don't see the greater non partisan side of things and from that bubble fail to see the bigger picture.

Trump sucks
Mitch sucks
Lindsay sucks
Bernie is unelectable for being a Socialist
Hillary was no better than Trump and AOC is a threat to National security at the moment.

Next...
ok, pebble
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Do you really think you are soooo clever that none of us see through your act? Why do you even bother with this pretense? Do you imagine there is some silent audience here at the ISF that's being fooled?
pebble needs his potatoe ration.
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More detail provided to clarify the situation.
Point of order: Does Lenningrad Lindsay even have those?
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ok, pebble
Thanks Pinky!
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