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4th July 2017, 03:54 AM | #161 |
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I'm pretty sure that's not what's being said.
Just as the MP who represents my constituency is my MP whether I voted for him or not, whoever gets elected POTUS is the POTUS for every American whether they voted for him or not. I don't like my MP and would certainly never vote for him, but he is still currently my representative in Parliament. |
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4th July 2017, 04:03 AM | #162 |
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Completely wrong. When he says or does things his base likes, it's NOT because he's thought through the politics of his base. It's him acting solely on impulse; he doesn't give a **** about what his supporters care about. He doesn't have a political analysis bone in his body. You give him WAY too much credit.
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4th July 2017, 04:58 AM | #163 |
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4th July 2017, 05:15 AM | #164 |
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1. Entirely possible, but a lot of Republicans thought attacking Syria was somehow a much better idea with Trump than they did with Obama. They might give him more leeway on future military adventures as well.
2. I actually think he'd use something like that to his advantage. I don't mean in a CT "let it happen" way, but if a major terrorist attack occurred I think he'd use it to justify the tighter immigration controls that lots of Republicans really want. |
4th July 2017, 05:24 AM | #165 |
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I agree with this interpretation.
When I say, "Nyet my President", it's an expression of disapproval. Trump is President. A treasonous, corrupt, inept, childish, hateful, antidemocratic, rotten President, but he is the President until he's removed from office. (Hopefully in the form of FBI agents hauling him, Pence, Bannon, Riebus, Miller, etc. away in handcuffs. With a large side order of Ryan and McConnell, too, please.) |
4th July 2017, 05:24 AM | #166 |
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4th July 2017, 05:40 AM | #167 |
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I've included the original post so it's close enough in context.
It may be that both you and Pixel42 have interpreted Quadraginta correctly, and that i have not. Obviously Trump is the Potus. Quad frames it as 'our' Potus. "it's still my country and I support the system" I could never have taken this position during the apartheid era in South Africa. You can probably think of other examples. I just sometimes think that Americans, as an example, are too nationalistic, and the post i replied to rung that bell slightly for me. |
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4th July 2017, 05:53 AM | #169 |
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Yup, it will be clown car candidates only if Trump is still north of 60% R support by then.
Better to get a free lock-in on that 60% in your district/state by having him land Air Force One at the local airport, drape his arm around your shoulder and mumble a few sentences about what a great guy you are. The alternative is Twitter tantrums and blackmail via planted stories that will ruin your career. Unless you're a clown car candidate specially built to spin "any publicity is good publicity" style. Trump's tirades then become fodder for email donation blasts, the campaign spokesman can cast Trump as the entrenched insider trying to squash the plucky savior primary challenger, etc. Exactly. Small operations run by a board of people who happen to all run canvassing, media production, and other campaign logistics related companies that will be $50 million in debt after the elections. |
4th July 2017, 07:23 AM | #170 |
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Even The PDJT doesn't think he stands for all of America, but only his party. He keeps maintaining the distinction between "us" and "them". Look at how often he says "We won the election."
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4th July 2017, 08:04 AM | #171 |
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To finish this thought, said serial campaigners (Newt is king) then pay their own companies for campaign consulting and work.That includes paying oneself and one's family members big salaries. Add in book tours and pushing book sales along with your campaign travels and you can earn millions.
The question is, who are the suckers donating to these loser's campaigns? |
4th July 2017, 08:20 AM | #172 |
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You can find them on their couches surfing Breitbart, making a donation to Newt while on hold buying something from HSN. They've temporarily flipped to an episode of Jerry Springer, though because there's something about the hand model currently showing off a charming turquoise bracelet that seems really bitchy.
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4th July 2017, 08:32 AM | #173 |
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Obama was called the divider. He was constantly accused of being the source of division in the US. And here we have Trump who has made dividing the country his #1 priority. And yet, the most hypocritical group of people in the world, the GOP supporters, will of course have nothing to say about it. |
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4th July 2017, 11:22 AM | #176 |
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Evidently the Alt-right didn't appreciate one of their own being outed as the creator of that video:
https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/881860850956599297 |
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4th July 2017, 11:35 AM | #178 |
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Why, what does the tweet say?
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4th July 2017, 11:38 AM | #179 |
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4th July 2017, 11:42 AM | #181 |
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It depends on what is meant by that statement. I don't approve of everything my country does, nor do I support everything my country does. Quite the opposite. I take positive and active measures to express my disapproval and to try to effect change. But it is still my country. Just because it isn't perfect doesn't change that. Doing what I can to change or improve the things I see as mistakes is a reflection of that. Is that the sort of thing you meant by that statement? |
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4th July 2017, 12:52 PM | #184 |
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Trump continues to damage US credibility and relations with our allies around the world and continues to try to inflict damaging policies against Americans, and now this:
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4th July 2017, 01:05 PM | #186 |
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Six months in office and it is very clear that Trump is an incompetent moron who is totally unfit mentally to run the United States of America.
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4th July 2017, 01:13 PM | #189 |
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Someone put it in a slightly better format for reading.
https://twitter.com/i/moments/881994184525320193 |
4th July 2017, 01:38 PM | #190 |
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David Brooks has a good analysis of Trump hard core supporters
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/04/o...e-iphone-share It doesn't provide actionable answers other than maybe not trying to convince them the Federal government can do any good for them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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4th July 2017, 01:54 PM | #191 |
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Can we have the season finale of "Trump" be an episode where he finally realizes if he doesn't do something drastic he will go down as the worst POTUS in history so he decides to do the biggest 180 spin of his career and pretend everything up to this point was all a clever plan to get the republican party to drop any pretense and show their true, and awful, colors. and having accomplished his true goal will now step down and retire as America's Most Bigly Hero.
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4th July 2017, 02:18 PM | #194 |
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Looks like Trump is delivering on immigration, even without the wall:
http://libertyunyielding.com/2017/07...-staying-home/ This is the kind of thing that keeps a lot of his base happy despite his failures. |
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The issue is that he is a member of a group that think they are the smartest people out there and think they should purposely deceive and $#!+post as a broader strategy. People from there are not credible.
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