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17th April 2019, 10:52 AM | #81 |
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17th April 2019, 10:55 AM | #82 |
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No, that is not what I've been saying. The "exhaust" and the "rocket" don't move in the same direction. They move in opposite directions -- the exhaust one way and the rocket another. If you are trying to use the campfire as an analogy, the smoke rising and the campfire also rising is not analogous. That is self-evidently incorrect.
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Or liquids. I remember struggling with divergent estimates over just how much molten aluminum would go out the nozzle of a Star-48 (or was it a Star-63?) rather than pooling around the nozzle (the nozzle protruded into the combustion chamber a bit, so this was possible).
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Thank you to Jay and all the others!
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17th April 2019, 11:13 AM | #93 |
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One way to convince me, at least, would be for Gingervytes to stop the attempted Gish gallop and answer the specific questions and refutations already put to him. I’m not going to entertain any new topics until he does.
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17th April 2019, 11:18 AM | #97 |
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Nope, I predict a further stream of "What about...?" queries that beg the question of their own relevance. This is what's so infuriating about trying to educate people who really need some remedial study, but are convinced of their own correctness. The sheer volume of potential cargo-cult "arguments" tries the patience.
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It would be nice if you could muster more than a small sentence at a time, so we can have a good starting point for a discussion.
If you're trying to imply that the video evidence we have is falsified, you'll have to explain how they managed to do that in a time where the technology to convincingly simulate space travel didn't exist. Which kind of includes now, by the way. It's easier to interpret to fit one's agenda. |
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That’s the thing. Theoretical blunders aside, just like the flat-Earth believers, the premise is observed to be wrong.
Proponents invariably must then claim that space flight itself is a hoax, which I guess (as have several others) is where Gingervytes is probably headed. The problem is that these people invariably have no idea at all what they’re talking about, which is always entertaining when they start trying to explain this claim to people who do this for a living (like some of us in this thread). |
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Gingervytes, when you look at the International Space Station through your own eyes as it passes over your location, how do you reconcile that with your notion that space flight is impossible? How do you think the ISS got there?
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17th April 2019, 11:38 AM | #112 |
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Assumes facts not in evidence. As has been noted before, an awful lot of CTists are just stunningly ignorant of the world around them, even if learning about it would require nothing more than just looking at it. Remember the one who was convinced that the Chemtrails had poisoned her water, because the spray from her water hose was making rainbows? |
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Well, he quotes movies as if they are wisdom and seems to have a movie understanding of science. Par for the course.
Wow, solipsism, so fast? The problem is, you don't want it proved. You've set yourself up to be impossible to convince anyway. Part of having an open mind is realising that you can be wrong, and you've discarded that. Density. Don't get things mixed up. Focus. |
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Okay place your bets. What's the Woo?
As bookie I'll lay down odds. 40% - Religious Woo "It's heaven and you can't go there because God" 40% - Science Woo "Space isn't there and big-science is lying to us to protect the massive... let me check... .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000001% of the Federal Budget they get every year. 5% - Full on TimeCube Woo "Space is 4th dimensional parallel tesserect string theory quantum flux...." 5% - Other, please specify. |
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Come on, it's flat Earth, what else ?
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