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Old 18th May 2019, 05:12 AM   #2361
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Exhaust pushes in air causing back pressure which pushes the rocket
What is your evidence for this?
Air pressure is 14psi,how much 'back pressure' do you tbink there is?
How does this 'back pressure' push more than the rigid wallsof the rocket chamber?
How come rockets work in a vacuum chamber?
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Old 18th May 2019, 05:13 AM   #2362
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Still waiting for evidence of rockets working in space.
You are the one making the claim that they don't work.
It's on you to support your claim.
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Old 18th May 2019, 05:15 AM   #2363
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Still waiting for evidence of rockets working in space.


Good News! I found some Indian scientists at a major conference presenting findings that look largely in accordance with your ideas!

You have support OUTSIDE of the Flat Earth communities!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-46778879
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Old 18th May 2019, 05:58 AM   #2364
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Still waiting for evidence of rockets working in space.
You're right, of course; they don't

But to admit it would mean losing my monthly pay cheque from the NWO and I'm retired now and need the money. Ooops ... how do I delete this? Arghhhh!!
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Old 18th May 2019, 05:58 AM   #2365
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Still waiting for evidence of rockets working in space.
Still awaiting your evidence that there are tigers in India.
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Old 18th May 2019, 06:25 AM   #2366
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Exhaust pushes in air causing back pressure which pushes the rocket
How does "exhaust push(ing) in air" cause "back pressure"?

Exhaust gases exit the rocket and hit the air molecules. Then....?

In order to have "pressure" you need a force. What is the force being applied to the rocket?

You can't be suggesting that the expelled gas is coming back at the rocket, that's completely idiotic (you love simple analogies - blow air out of your mouth...do you feel a breeze in your face? No. That's your rocket exhaust in the atmosphere)
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Old 18th May 2019, 06:53 AM   #2367
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I am thinking of starting a thread called "Aeroplanes can't fly", or "Bernoulli? Schmernoulli!", just so that we can talk about something different.
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Old 18th May 2019, 07:14 AM   #2368
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Still waiting for evidence of rockets working in space.
You are a liar.

A vast amount of such evidence has long been provided to you.
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Old 18th May 2019, 08:07 AM   #2369
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
What is your evidence for this?
Air pressure is 14psi,how much 'back pressure' do you tbink there is?
How does this 'back pressure' push more than the rigid wallsof the rocket chamber?
How come rockets work in a vacuum chamber?
For gases moving at high velocity through the atmosphere there is a lot of back pressure. Ever heard of the sound barrier?
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Old 18th May 2019, 08:08 AM   #2370
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I already in original post. No one has rebutted it thus far
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Old 18th May 2019, 08:09 AM   #2371
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I am thinking of starting a thread called "Aeroplanes can't fly", or "Bernoulli? Schmernoulli!", just so that we can talk about something different.
They cannot fly without an atmosphere
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Old 18th May 2019, 08:27 AM   #2372
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Then explain this.

https://www.smartertravel.com/use-ph...-without-data/
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Old 18th May 2019, 08:28 AM   #2373
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
I already in original post. No one has rebutted it thus far
I know you are but what am I?
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Old 18th May 2019, 09:38 AM   #2374
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
I already in original post. No one has rebutted it thus far
Bwahaha! Everyone has rebutted it. And proven in the process that you don't know the first thing about math or physics.

What direction is the pressure inside a basketball? You don't know. You barely think you know what a vector is, which is why you drop such howlers like mass flow rate being a vector.

At this point who do you think you're fooling?
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Old 18th May 2019, 09:41 AM   #2375
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
They cannot fly without an atmosphere
But according to your balloon-car experiment, jet airplanes (and rockets) would start losing thrust at a mere 800 meters of altitude above sea level, which is below ground level where I live. You can't explain that. Why? Because despite your waffling over "simple experiments," you can't do even a little bit of physics with actual numbers.
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Old 18th May 2019, 09:44 AM   #2376
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Exhaust pushes in air causing back pressure which pushes the rocket
Nope.

Here's the post where we finally got you to admit that that's not what happens. You don't get to put that genie back in the bottle. And we challenged you to follow it up with actual math, which of course you cannot do because your argument lacks any sort of mathematical or physical rigor. It's just troll-style handwaving.
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Old 18th May 2019, 09:48 AM   #2377
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Still waiting for ignoring evidence of rockets working in space.
FTFY

I and a few others do it for a living. We know what we're doing. You claim that we're all being paid to lie about it, and I've asked you repeatedly for evidence of that fact.

I'm daring you to call me a liar.

I'm daring you to prove your claim that I'm being bribed.

C'mon, flat-Earth boy. Put your money where your mouth is.
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Old 18th May 2019, 09:58 AM   #2378
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
For gases moving at high velocity through the atmosphere there is a lot of back pressure. Ever heard of the sound barrier?
Gibberish. You aren't even trying.

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Old 18th May 2019, 09:59 AM   #2379
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
I already in original post. No one has rebutted it thus far
AH, engleesh is harda for you?

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Old 18th May 2019, 10:01 AM   #2380
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I already in original post. No one has rebutted it thus far

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Old 18th May 2019, 10:05 AM   #2381
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
They cannot fly without an atmosphere


An exploding soda can moves in a vacuum. According to Flat Earth Rocket Theory (FERT) that should not be possible.

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Old 18th May 2019, 10:10 AM   #2382
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Still waiting for evidence of rockets working in space.
And yet they still do, frequently, launched by countries all over the world, without regard to your concerns.

I'm still waiting for proof the videos of rockets working in space are CGI when they film is decades older than CGI technology.
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Old 18th May 2019, 10:11 AM   #2383
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Still waiting for evidence of rockets working in space.
I'm satisfied by the last 50 years or longer of our space program, the existence of GPS and other satelites around our Earth and all the probes we've sent to Mars and the other outer planets.

If that isn't enough for you, that's your choice, but I wonder what makes you think you have the right to demand random people prove to you things you clearly just don't want to believe?

You're the one taking the contrary view that conventional physics teaches is all wrong and that you know the "truth". The onus is on you to prove to us that you're right, and so far your efforts have been feeble.
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Old 18th May 2019, 10:17 AM   #2384
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxBRQXxBRic

Neat video though I can't say I'm disappointed that this guy isn't my neighbor.
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Old 18th May 2019, 10:23 AM   #2386
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
For gases moving at high velocity through the atmosphere there is a lot of back pressure. Ever heard of the sound barrier?
What does that have to do with a rocket exhaust?

What do you take the 'sound barrier' to be?

If we take away the 14psi of atmosphere we still have thousands of pounds of pressure in a rocket exhaust. Why is that 14 psi so important?

Why does a rocket work in a vacuum chamber?
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Old 18th May 2019, 10:36 AM   #2387
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This whole thread can be summed up as casting pearls before swine
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This whole thread can be summed up as casting pearls before swine
In this case, such would be an insult to swine.
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Old 18th May 2019, 10:53 AM   #2389
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Rockets don't work in space, next he'll be telling us the world is flat.
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I'm thinking seriously of reporting the thread and asking it be moved to humor. It certainly doesn't belong in Science.
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On this idea that there must be something to push against for thrust to work, let's consider the F-18C Hornet. In Super cruise mode, that is supersonic flight without afterburner, the exhaust from the engine is at about 680 mph, relative to the aircraft. The aircraft is making about 777 mph through the air. That means that the exhaust is actually traveling forward, rather than backward, at almost 100 mph, relative to the air. What is the exhaust pushing against?
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Old 18th May 2019, 11:43 AM   #2392
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Originally Posted by Pope130 View Post
On this idea that there must be something to push against for thrust to work, let's consider the F-18C Hornet. In Super cruise mode, that is supersonic flight without afterburner, the exhaust from the engine is at about 680 mph, relative to the aircraft. The aircraft is making about 777 mph through the air. That means that the exhaust is actually traveling forward, rather than backward, at almost 100 mph, relative to the air. What is the exhaust pushing against?
You are arguing against someone who denies the existence of the International Space Station and at the least seems fairly open ti the idea of a flat Earth.


I suspect that this, or discussions about relativity are a little... esoteric
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Originally Posted by Pope130 View Post
On this idea that there must be something to push against for thrust to work, let's consider the F-18C Hornet. In Super cruise mode, that is supersonic flight without afterburner, the exhaust from the engine is at about 680 mph, relative to the aircraft. The aircraft is making about 777 mph through the air. That means that the exhaust is actually traveling forward, rather than backward, at almost 100 mph, relative to the air. What is the exhaust pushing against?
Don't give him actual numbers. It just seems to confuse him.
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Ever heard of the sound barrier?
You seem to think that the sound barrier is something that rocket exhaust pushes against?
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I'm thinking seriously of reporting the thread and asking it be moved to humor. It certainly doesn't belong in Science.
The first constructive post in the last 2 weeks or so.
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Old 18th May 2019, 02:15 PM   #2396
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Don't give him actual numbers. It just seems to confuse him.
Which reminds me: Hey, GV, how about the numbers I PM'd you explaining how water pressure goes up at the bottom of a ship?
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Old 18th May 2019, 02:25 PM   #2397
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Not only do rockets not work in a vacuum, they don't even work in the atmosphere.
Look at this picture.
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See the chains and wires holding down all the space craft. That's because if you remove the chains, the ship will fly off into space. You see, they all have stolen alien anti gravity engines in them. You know, the alien stuff stolen from all those crashed ufo's. The rocket motors are a diversion to make sure nobody finds out about the anti gravity stuff.

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Old 18th May 2019, 02:52 PM   #2398
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Originally Posted by Gingervytes View Post
Still waiting for evidence of rockets working in space.
https://youtu.be/vHWDNrrfhnI

Chinese rocket launch. Ginger you should inform the Chinese government of their folly. After you inform them move on to the Indian government, Israel government, the European Space agency, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos https://youtu.be/_LUmZqTmAZA
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I wonder if this might be gingervytes?
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Old 18th May 2019, 03:06 PM   #2400
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I wonder if this might be gingervytes?
https://youtu.be/AubIFUsq7Ss
Yes, it's the video he keeps shilling here. The one he says cannot be refuted.
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