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I must admit to a certain curiosity as to how PartSkeptic "sorted things out" to the ghost's apparent satisfaction.
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He read the spirit act.
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It's interesting to note in passing that coincidences never happening, which would be far harder to explain in terms of the laws of nature and probability than the sort of coincidences PartSkeptic describes, would be the one piece of genuine evidence for the supernatural we would be unlikely to notice, because our pattern seeking brains consider it the norm.
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When the footsteps stopped, a leaf was blown across the pavement revealing a cricket which went silent under the moonlight loosed by parting clouds. Where these too actors in the night's play? Who could engineer that leaf moving on the very fell quiet of ghostly feet?
Oh, too, the world turned a fraction; millions died and were born. Millions more clutched their breaths as ghosts Interspooked. A clockwork play that is right twice a day. |
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I possibly think you may perhaps be right. But my other experience could makes thing clearer.
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Post spook ergo propter spook. *
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Just because our ancestors looked for explanations for the universe in which we live, and got it wrong sometimes, it does not mean that one can throw out all supernatural explanations. Not too long ago, the Creation of the Universe at a finite time from nothing was thought to be preposterous. The Hindus had cyclical universes on an immense time scale, and guess what. They may be close to the truth if the current cyclic theories are correct. Now here is another scientific theory which is taken seriously.
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If we live in a simulation then there are indeed "outside" or "supernatural" intelligences that exist, and can affect what we think of as "reality". In the past ten years there have been three distinct occasions that I have experienced a glitch in reality. Not supernatural - just seemed physically impossible to me. When added to my other experiences, I conclude that there is indeed the possibility that we live in a simulation, or in the mind of a super-intelligence. If so, then ghosts and spirits are also possible, and humankind can figure out if there is indeed some sort of logic behind what can and cannot happen. You guys just need to keep up with the latest scientific theories. How many theories were at first scoffed out and then proven true! Einsteins cosmological constant is one even he did not want to believe in? |
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Supernatural is a word without employment. Preposterous is blue collar — at least it holds the dirty universe by the scruff. After some time and a step-wise algorithm we call science, the preposterous gives way to cohesive explanation.
If your ghosts and glitches can be shown, above the level of noise, they will be taken-up into the process of science. Until then you are flying the flag for a flat line. |
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I am talking about everyday things. Like a car in the street that others say is not there. When a shadow or sudden movement occurs, there is an immediate thought that it might be a person. This is over in an instant. I am talking about things that are not fleeting. I am 66 years old. I forget little things related to short term memory. Until I was 45 years old it bothered me that I remembered all sorts of minutia, and found myself happy to finally begin forgetting trivia. I find my long term memory, and my memory on key events, to be quite accurate. I recently looked up old letters and diaries about some things and am happy to say that I think you are generalizing far too much. I know many people who describe an event we both experienced and their version gets more elaborate with time. Nice try, but only slightly applicable. Now we get to argue about how long a piece of string is - such as if I forget how much I forget. What was your point again? |
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I like to point out a few things. One that you are told the building can be creepy at times. So you had power of suggestion. Another thing you had You are alone and tired. Which can cause some Hallucination. (vision sound and movements) Combine all of this you get get your ghosts.
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Well, I noticed things similar but more repeatable.
After an accident at a busy intersection, there is often a wreath of flowers that mysteriously appear at one of the corners. However, that is not all! After three pedestrians die at a corner without a traffic light, my city generally decides to put up a traffic light at that intersection. Sometimes it appears after only one fatality, but it is almost certain after three fatalities. Furthermore, I have examined the converse. If a intersection without a traffic light continues to have no fatalities, neither flowers nor traffic light appear. Spooky!!! |
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You need to do some more reading on the subject; if you don't like to read, watch some back episodes of Net Geo's Brain Games. Your memory isn't nearly as good as you imagine; no one's is.
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This story is actually a long chain of "coincidences". My late wife had tried to get a "sangoma" (a South African shaman) to "cleanse" the place as a precautionary measure. She had no doubts about these things. But it just kept being delayed because the sangoma kept having issues to deal with. The night of the Cobra slid past me (twice) close to my feet, I was writing an email to her listing all the strange things that were happening, and saying this is getting beyond "normal". I have the emails with the sequence of events. January 2011. I got stopped by the police and found that my New Zealand drivers licencs had expired. When I went to pay the fine on the Thursday in the local town, the cop helping me noticed my address. He told me how the man had committed suicide and how traumatic it was for many people. The next night (Friday) I went to the local pizza place and happened to meet a local who knew the story, and I got more detail. The man had been jilted, and took his pickup to the house which is in the hot Karoo (semi-desert). He parked it there and drank a few bottles of methyl alcohol which would have killed him but he ran the engine with a hose pipe into the cab to make sure. His friend was supposed to be there the next day to check on the place for the absentee owners, but only went there a week later. The suicide was nothing but rotting flesh, and they burnt the insides of the pickup on the site. When I got home that night I decided to "talk" to this ghost. Although it seemed I was debating with myself, it seemed that the discussion was being directed to certain conclusions. The suicide imagined he would have a peaceful end, and his friend would find him lying as if asleep. But the spirit was motivated to stay until his friend arrived, and the spirit watched himself rot, He also saw and experienced the trauma of his discovery and removal. He wanted to set things right with his friend, and have me apologize. On Sunday a guy called me unexpectedly and asked if I wanted to see his mountain farm because a few weeks earlier I had expressed an interest in buying in with him. When we were coming back I asked if he knew the man who found the body. He said we could go right there. The gates were locked and the routine was to make a cell phone call. We heard the phone ringing over and over at the back of the house, but no response. Then we started hooting the car horn. The noise attracted the woman next door who came to the fence. The friend then came out. He could not explain why he had not heard the cell phone which was with him. When it turned out that the woman was the ex-girlfriend, she wanted to hear what I had to say. She was very upset, and said the suicide was haunting her. Lots and noises and chills in her house. I told them the story, and said the suicide wished to apologize to them. The friend did not believe in ghosts. The woman cried. She later told me that the haunting stopped. I went back to the farm, and it was very different. Peaceful. The next day the sangoma confirmed that her schedule had cleared, and they could get there. Although there were some challenges, they did not occur everyday, and were less unusual. Those who believe in ghosts will say "Wow, you did have a haunting". Those who do not will say "Imagination, and coincidence - nothing remarkable". I say maybe. |
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I have watched them, and found that my mind works quite well. Although I am engineer, I have been involved with labor disputes, and a number of legal actions. I do remember what I say and when. And I find that I can confirm my evidence with video and audio recordings over a period of 18 months. I cannot say the same for other staff. My goodness, some people have bad memories. Even when I review their testimony the day before, it still comes out with errors. You remind me of the engineer who testified in court as to a traffic accident, and gave fairly precise metrics. The lawyer challenged him to give various dimensions in the court room, and was astounded by the precision. |
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Gee. How droll and dull. My life is far more exciting. There had been no fatalities at this intersection that I know of until this one. Sleepy little bush town. 1960's. They decided to put a traffic light up because there were two main streets intersecting. The siren was the police arriving. When that happened my Mom and my brothers got out of their beds (their bedrooms were in the front of the house), unlocked the front door (those big old clunky locks), and went outside. Excited chatter while I was hiding under the sheet. I learned the next morning that a man on a bicycle had been knocked down and killed. Black man, black cycle, no lights, who had ignored the traffic light. The only "suggestion" that something may have been amiss was the sound of a car breaking heavily at first (I thought nothing of it but a person unused to the traffic light being there), but no indication that an accident had occurred. No smashing sound, no scream, nothing but tires squealing briefly. |
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Odd, that. It's almost as if there was time to marinate the tale in bias before it was cooked to perfection.
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Saw an article where Steven Hawkings and others are worried about artificial intelligence. It reminded me of Frankenstein, and I looked this up.
Now here is an example of waking dreams and night terrors. I am afraid the story has us all beat.
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The one and a half meter snake had come into the house in the evening and hid in the kitchen. I was at a desk with my back to the kitchen door openings. The house had no "doors" to close off any room, just the door openings. The snake came up behind me and then slithered past me towards the bedroom. I noticed the movement in the corner of my eye and ran ahead of it, and chased it. It went back to the kitchen. I opened the back door and tried to get it out the house, but it had hidden in the cabinets. I blocked off the kitchen with a board, and returned to writing. The snake pushed past the board, and again come up behind me but this time to the left. I jumped up and opened the front door. It tried to slide past the opening but I managed to scare it so it went outside. I had an advantage in that I had spread boric acid powder over the floor to stop the ants invading the house. It therefore had no traction and was not prepared to go on the attack. As to why it came in the house. They look for warmth, and the bedroom was the warmest room. Thank goodness I saw it. Climbing into bed with the second deadliest snake in South Africa could have been nasty for me. People in the area kept long poles with a trident on the end just for when this occurs. |
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