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Old 15th December 2020, 04:54 PM   #1161
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No minerals that underwent billions of years of terrestrial processes (heating to 1000's of degrees, weathering, etc.).


The cult has had about 14 years to explain that lack ! Sol88 has had a decade to explain that lack
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Dude, billions of years of terrestrial processes is not needed!

Powerful electrical events quickly alter surface chemistry on Mars and other planetary bodies

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On Earth, dust particles are viewed mainly in terms of their physical effects, like erosion. But, in exotic locales from Mars to Venus to Jupiter's icy moon Europa, electrical effects can affect the chemical composition of a planetary body's surface and atmosphere in a relatively short time, according to new research from Washington University in St. Louis.

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Low-strength electrostatic discharge causes electrochemical reactions that transform materials on the Martian surface, Wang explained, causing loss of crystallinity, removal of structural water and oxidation of certain elements like sulfur, chlorine and iron.
Hello Comets and Asteroids!





Comets and asteroids are charged rocky bodies seeking equilibrium with the surrounding ambient plasma!
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Old 15th December 2020, 10:31 PM   #1162
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  1. Sol88 has a delusion that geology does not form limestone, sandstone, etc. over long periods of time during the billions of years of the planets existence !
  2. Sol88 has a delusion that electrochemical effects of Martian dust storms create limestone, sandstone, etc. here on Earth and similar rocks on Mercury, Venus and even Mars !
  3. Sol88 is as usual abysmally ignorant.
    Surface chemistry is not how rocks such as limestone, sandstone, basalt etc. form Limestone forms from creatures dying in water. Sandstone forms from rock being weathered and the resulting sand being compressed into rock. Basalt and granite form in molten rock below the surface.
  4. Sol88 has the delusion that Mars is an asteroid or comet . Or that sand storms happen on asteroids or comets But this is Sol88 stickling with his deluded cult insanity of massive thunderbolts at comets as he has for decades.
  5. Sol88's constant stupidity of lying about his deluded dogma which does not have his plasma fantasies.
  6. Sol88 constant lying about posts in this thread.
    I did not ask about Martian surface chemistry .
    I did not ask for idiotic and lying fantasies from Sol88.
    I asked for the Thunderbolts cult's answers to questions and got nothing from his deluded cult.

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Old 15th December 2020, 10:39 PM   #1163
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The thousands of lies, delusions, insults, etc. since 6 July 2009 from Sol88 about his cult's electric comet and electric Sun dogma.
The abysmal insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn and all astronomers by Sol88 linking them with Sol88's dogma, etc. (no astronomer believes comets are actual rock)
1155 + 787 794 items of lies, insults, etc. from Sol88 since ~10 March 2020

Sol88's deluded dogma did not affect OSIRIS-REx when it touched their imaginary massively charged active asteroid Bennu!
Sol88 constantly lies with "Comets are charged rocky bodies discharging in the solar plasma"
Sol88 constantly lies that sublimation does not happen on comets when the observed ice Sol88 has cited has to sublimate
Sol88 trusts the blatantly lying and deluded Wal Thornhill yet again!
Sol88 often lies about his cult's delusions that Sol88 believes in
Sol88 constantly lies that he is supporting/modeling his deluded dogma with mainstream science.
Sol88 constantly lies that MWD is invalid, e.g. "MHD IS A BUST.", when it is working physics !
Sol88 constantly lies that every paper on comets has to mention charged dust.
Sol88 constantly lies with "dust is charged and being removed via electric forces".
Sol88 lies about the Big Bang, black holes, etc. yet again !
Sol88 lies about his cult and their deluded dogma which is based on Worlds in Collision and Velikovsky's other fantasies held to support his religious beliefs.
Sol88 and the Thunderbolts cult refusal to "Look thru the telescope"
More about Sol88's cult, Sol88's lies, Sol88 emphasizing his cult's idiocy and Thornhill's delusions about physics.
How Sol88 and Wal Thornhill make the electric comet deluded with EDM, Part II
Why Sol88's cult having comet tails as electric discharges is deluded
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Old 15th December 2020, 10:41 PM   #1165
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15 December 2020 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain that the Earth is immune to their "physics"?
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Old 15th December 2020, 10:42 PM   #1166
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15 December 2020 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain the lack of minerals unique to rocky planets in the Stardust samples?
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Old 15th December 2020, 11:11 PM   #1167
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Question Sol88: How is your Thunderbolts cult going to explain the Hayabusa2 samples

15 December 2020 Sol88: How is your Thunderbolts cult going to explain a lack of minerals unique to rocky planets in the Hayabusa2 samples?

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Old 15th December 2020, 11:14 PM   #1168
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The Thunderbolts cult has the delusion that comets and asteroids have the same composition from their idiotic fantasy that they are both blasted from rocky planets by imaginary thunderbolts between planets are they whizz around however the cult imagines. One of the many reasons that this is deluded is that rocky planets have minerals that are unique to them. Anyone with a brain can list minerals unique to Earth that must be on comets and asteroids in their insane world:
  • Limestone which is the "accumulation of shell, coral, algal, and fecal debris" in shallow seas.
  • Sandstone formed from weathered materials.
  • Basalt mostly formed in volcanoes.
  • Granite forms from magna.
  • Coal!
A reason that the Thunderbolts cult is insane is the reality of comets and asteroids. Blasting cubic kilometers of rock from the Earth into space to from a quarter of observed comets would cause 1000's of extinctions many of them mass extinctions. Add in asteroids and things get insane As of 29 October 2018, the LINEAR system alone has discovered 147,132 asteroids.[34]. Add in the dwarf planet Ceres and the largest asteroids Vesta, Pallas, and Hygiea and the insanity is clear. We are not talking about dinosaur killing events. Blasting any of these from Earth would kill all life on Earth.

Another reason that the Thunderbolts cult is insane is they believe Earth is special and immune to their delusions ! The other rocky planets move vast distances to exchange thunderbolts wit the Earth. But the Earth has to stay fairly close to its current orbit because life has existed here for billions of years! Earth had a relatively stable climate over those billions of years.

What also makes the Thunderbolts cult insane is that we already have samples from the Stardust mission returned in 2006 and they have minerals that formed in the early solar system and in space. No limestone. No sandstone. No basalt. No granite. No minerals that formed in oceans. No minerals that formed in volcanoes such as the ones on Earth, Mars and Venus. No minerals that underwent billions of years of terrestrial processes (heating to 1000's of degrees, weathering, etc.).

Sol88's cult is insane to predict terrestrial rock in asteroid samples because we already have many kilograms of asteroid rock from meteorites. The majority of meteorites have no planetary material. The exception is 277 meteorite classifications were identified as Martian, out of over 72,000 known meteorite classifications.[1]. According to Sol88's insane cult, meteorites must be classified as about a quarter from Mars, about a quarter from Mercury, about a quarter from Venus and about a quarter form Earth ! The reason that we only have a tiny % from Mars and nothing identifiable from other planets including Earth is easy to understand for anyone who knows about planets. Mars has been subject to enormous impacts due to its closeness to the asteroid belt.

A minor reason that Sol88's cult is insane to expect terrestrial material in comets and asteroids: Meteor spectroscopy has been going on for 123 years . Meteor showers come from comets, e.g. the Leonids. No excited announcements of finding terrestial spectra from meteors!

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Old 16th December 2020, 09:57 PM   #1169
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Dude, billions of years of terrestrial processes is not needed!
Dude, billions of years of terrestrial processes did happen. Or are you now trying to tell us that Earth isn't billions of years old? You know, like creationists who believe Earth magically appeared about 6000 years ago?

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That doesn't explain why none of the comets or asteroids contain any trace of Earth-specific material, like coal.

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Old 16th December 2020, 11:31 PM   #1170
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That doesn't explain why none of the comets or asteroids contain any trace of Earth-specific material, like coal.
TEMPEL 1

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The probe's spectrometer instrument detected dust particles finer than human hair, and discovered the presence of silicates, carbonates, smectite, metal sulfides (such as fool's gold), amorphous carbon and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons. Water ice was detected in the ejecta.[7] The water ice came from 1 meter below the surface crust (the devolatized layer around the nucleus).[7]
carbonates = ubiquitous in chemically precipitated sedimentary rock

smectite = Found on or near some planetary surfaces.


amorphous carbon = In mineralogy, amorphous carbon is the name used for coal,

Stardust

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In December 2006, seven papers were published in the scientific journal Science, discussing initial details of the sample analysis. Among the findings are: a wide range of organic compounds, including two that contain biologically usable nitrogen; indigenous aliphatic hydrocarbons with longer chain lengths than those observed in the diffuse interstellar medium; abundant amorphous silicates in addition to crystalline silicates such as olivine and pyroxene, proving consistency with the mixing of Solar System and interstellar matter, previously deduced spectroscopically from ground observations;[47] hydrous silicates and carbonate minerals were found to be absent, suggesting a lack of aqueous processing of the cometary dust; limited pure carbon (CHON)[clarification needed] was also found in the samples returned; methylamine and ethylamine was found in the aerogel but was not associated with specific particles.
Olivine = The primary component of the Earth's upper mantle

Pyroxene = The upper mantle of Earth is composed mainly of olivine and pyroxene. Pyroxene and feldspar are the major minerals in basalt, andesite, and gabbro.[1][2]

So??
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Old 16th December 2020, 11:35 PM   #1171
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The Thunderbolts cult has the delusion that comets and asteroids have the same composition from their idiotic fantasy that they are both blasted from rocky planets by imaginary thunderbolts between planets are they whizz around however the cult imagines. One of the many reasons that this is deluded is that rocky planets have minerals that are unique to them. Anyone with a brain can list minerals unique to Earth that must be on comets and asteroids in their insane world:

Limestone which is the "accumulation of shell, coral, algal, and fecal debris" in shallow seas.
Sandstone formed from weathered materials.
Basalt mostly formed in volcanoes.
Granite forms from magna.
Coal!
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Limestone - Check
Basalt - Check
Granite - Check
Coal - Check

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Old 17th December 2020, 12:51 PM   #1172
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  1. Sol88 repeats his stupidity of citing minerals common to planets, comets and asteroids in the mainstream model,
  2. Sol88 lies by citing carbonates which are not uniquely terrestrial minerals.
  3. Sol88 lies by citing smectite which are not uniquely terrestrial minerals.
  4. Sol88 lies by citing amorphous carbon which is not a uniquely terrestrial mineral.
  5. Sol88 lies by writing Olivine which is not a uniquely terrestrial mineral.
  6. Sol88 lies by writing Pyroxene which is not a uniquely terrestrial mineral.
  7. Sol88 yet again has that he is lying in what he quotes: proving consistency with the mixing of Solar System and interstellar matter, previously deduced spectroscopically from ground observations;[47]
  8. Sol88's idiocy of citing scientists not being shocked by finding his lie of "uniquely terrestrial minerals" on comets or asteroids !
    His quote starts "In December 2006, seven papers were published in the scientific journal Science".
  9. Sol88 repeats his idiotic lie that uniquely terrestrial minerals were found on Tempel 1.
  10. Sol88's idiocy of constantly debunking his deluded dogma ! Here Sol88 cites the water ice in the Tempel 1 ejecta and surface water ice that Sol88 and his cult deny exists.
  11. Sol88 repeats his idiotic lie that uniquely terrestrial minerals were found in Stardust samples.
  12. Even with a , Sol88 writes a deluded 'Limestone, Basalt , Granite and Coal"' lie. They have never been detected on comets or asteroids and he knows this .
  13. Sol88 lies about my questions again which are not about his over 11 years of constant ignorant fantasies and blatant lies. They ask how the Thunderbolts cult explain the real world.

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Old 17th December 2020, 01:09 PM   #1173
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That doesn't explain why none of the comets or asteroids contain any trace of Earth-specific material, like coal.
Also where are the fossils ?

Almost serious though. Much of Earth's surface contains micro fossils. Sol88's demented flat-earth-like dogma of many cubic kilometers of rock being blasted from the Earth by thunderbolts between planets might result in these surviving.
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Old 17th December 2020, 01:12 PM   #1174
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[quote=Sol88;13328927]

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So??
...you just proved you are unable to even properly understand basic wikipedia articles. And equally basic questions asked to you.

Can amorphous carbon be produced in various ways? Sure. Was the amorphous carbon produced on Earth mostly during Carboniferous ever found on asteroids or comets? Nope. Was amorphous carbon found on asteroids and comets possibly originating from Earth? Nope.

In short, you have nothing to prove that carbon on asteroids or comets is Earth-made coal.

Dude, billions of years of terrestrial processes did happen. Or are you now trying to tell us that Earth isn't billions of years old? You know, like creationists who believe Earth magically appeared about 6000 years ago?

Challenge this. But you don't have the guts to even try. Coward.

As I said for a long time: religion masquerading as science.

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Old 17th December 2020, 01:19 PM   #1175
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Also where are the fossils ?

Almost serious though. Much of Earth's surface contains micro fossils. Sol88's demented flat-earth-like dogma of many cubic kilometers of rock being blasted from the Earth by thunderbolts between planets might result in these surviving.
I guess Sol will soon tell us that there are no fossils. They are just random pattern engraved by electric arcs that randomly look like animals and plants.

That's the ELECTRIC UNICORN folks!
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Old 17th December 2020, 01:21 PM   #1176
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The thousands of lies, delusions, insults, etc. since 6 July 2009 from Sol88 about his cult's electric comet and electric Sun dogma.
The abysmal insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn and all astronomers by Sol88 linking them with Sol88's dogma, etc. (no astronomer believes comets are actual rock)
1155 + 794 807 items of lies, insults, etc. from Sol88 since ~10 March 2020

Sol88's deluded dogma did not affect OSIRIS-REx when it touched their imaginary massively charged active asteroid Bennu!
Sol88 constantly lies with "Comets are charged rocky bodies discharging in the solar plasma"
Sol88 constantly lies that sublimation does not happen on comets when the observed ice Sol88 has cited has to sublimate
Sol88 trusts the blatantly lying and deluded Wal Thornhill yet again!
Sol88 often lies about his cult's delusions that Sol88 believes in
Sol88 constantly lies that he is supporting/modeling his deluded dogma with mainstream science.
Sol88 constantly lies that MWD is invalid, e.g. "MHD IS A BUST.", when it is working physics !
Sol88 constantly lies that every paper on comets has to mention charged dust.
Sol88 constantly lies with "dust is charged and being removed via electric forces".
Sol88 lies about the Big Bang, black holes, etc. yet again !
Sol88 lies about his cult and their deluded dogma which is based on Worlds in Collision and Velikovsky's other fantasies held to support his religious beliefs.
Sol88 and the Thunderbolts cult refusal to "Look thru the telescope"
More about Sol88's cult, Sol88's lies, Sol88 emphasizing his cult's idiocy and Thornhill's delusions about physics.
How Sol88 and Wal Thornhill make the electric comet deluded with EDM, Part II
Why Sol88's cult having comet tails as electric discharges is deluded
Sol88 constantly lies by repeating his already answered and irrelevant questions about mainstream physics
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Old 17th December 2020, 01:28 PM   #1177
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Question Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain the composition of meteorites

4 November 2020 Sol88: What is the charge difference between the massively charged active asteroid Bennu and the massively charged active comet 67P (N.B. your deluded dogma has massive thunderbolts tearing rock apart into gas and dust)?
15 December 2020 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain that the Earth is immune to their "physics"?
15 December 2020 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain the lack of minerals unique to rocky planets in the Stardust samples?
15 December 2020 Sol88: How is your Thunderbolts cult going to explain a lack of minerals unique to rocky planets in the Hayabusa2 samples?

Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain the lack of uniquely terrestrial minerals in meteorites?
There is a tiny percentage of meteorites that are thought to be ejecta from impacts on Mars. But no material from Earth has been found . No coal. No fossils! No limestone made of dead animals. No sandstone laid down in rivers and oceans. etc. etc.
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Old 18th December 2020, 08:43 AM   #1178
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I guess Sol will soon tell us that there are no fossils. They are just random pattern engraved by electric arcs that randomly look like animals and plants.

That's the ELECTRIC UNICORN folks!
I think they found dinosaur fossils in the Hayabusa return sample.
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Old 22nd December 2020, 12:44 AM   #1179
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...you just proved you are unable to even properly understand basic wikipedia articles. And equally basic questions asked to you.

Can amorphous carbon be produced in various ways? Sure. Was the amorphous carbon produced on Earth mostly during Carboniferous ever found on asteroids or comets? Nope. Was amorphous carbon found on asteroids and comets possibly originating from Earth? Nope.

In short, you have nothing to prove that carbon on asteroids or comets is Earth-made coal.

Dude, billions of years of terrestrial processes did happen. Or are you now trying to tell us that Earth isn't billions of years old? You know, like creationists who believe Earth magically appeared about 6000 years ago?

Challenge this. But you don't have the guts to even try. Coward.

As I said for a long time: religion masquerading as science.
“ Can amorphous carbon be produced in various ways? Sure.

Was the amorphous carbon produced on Earth mostly during Carboniferous ever found on asteroids or comets? Nope. Was amorphous carbon found on asteroids and comets possibly originating from Earth? Nope.

In short, you have nothing to prove that carbon on asteroids or comets is Earth-made coal.”

You have nothing to prove it doesn’t?

Further...


“ Dude, billions of years of terrestrial processes did happen. Or are you now trying to tell us that Earth isn't billions of years old? You know, like creationists who believe Earth magically appeared about 6000 years ago?”

Nice confabulation! You receiving lessons from reality check?

EU never mentions the age of the earth. Just that there was plasma phenomena going on in living memory. Recorded in ROCK.

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Old 22nd December 2020, 12:46 AM   #1180
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I think they found dinosaur fossils in the Hayabusa return sample.

Did you also see they measured the asteroids electric field and found it to be at a low potential to the surrounding ambient plasma?

Very gentle electrostatics going on, with the particle ejection.

A comets potential on the other hand is obviously higher. We see this in the jets.

Which, by the way, was a primary goal of this mission.

How’s it coming along, tusenfem? Any updates on landslides and topographic factors as the cause of the jets/outbursts.

Let me know when the top scientists we have come up with something a little more plausible, cheers.
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Old 22nd December 2020, 12:50 AM   #1181
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Did you also see they measured the asteroids electric field and found it to be at a low potential to the surrounding ambient plasma?
Nope, but it could have been rests of Dinah Shore instead of dinosaurs.

And I think one of the scientists got electrocuted when he touched the asteroidal dirt.
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Old 22nd December 2020, 01:36 AM   #1182
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Nope, but it could have been rests of Dinah Shore instead of dinosaurs.

And I think one of the scientists got electrocuted when he touched the asteroidal dirt.
That much charge! Wow.

Imagine a comets charge. Electrifying.
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  1. Sol88 lies with "You have nothing to prove it doesn’t?" when it is up to Sol88 do support his deluded dogma.
  2. Sol88 lies with "Nice confabulation!" when it is Sol88's stupidity that geological process on Earth have not acted over billions of years that implies his cult are young earth creationist-like.
  3. Sol88 lies with "Nice confabulation!" when a confabulation in psychology is a memory gap filled with false information . It can also mean a conversation or discussion but Soll88 is mostly ignoring us and spewing out his deluded dogma, their lies, his lies, his own ignorant fantasy, etc.
  4. Sol88 emphasizes that he follows a deluded cult. Sol88 and his deluded lying prophets have no EU plasma phenomena recorded in rock in living memory. It is possible that some rock art is mainstream plasma phenomena such as aurora or solar flares or lightning balls.
  5. Sol88 probably lies with "they measured the asteroids electric field" since Sol88 lies by default and there is no citation.
  6. Sol88 writes his own delusion that comet jets show that comets are at a higher potential than asteroids. Sol88 knows that jets are gas from sublimating ices and show nothing about the potential of comets !
    Jets show how blatantly deluded his cult are. Sol88 mindlessly parrots their deluded idea that comet jets are electric discharges but:
    Deluded because everyone knows that jets vanish in shadows. The light they emit is not emitted from them, it is reflected light.
    Deluded because as pointed out a decade ago, jets do not emit the x-rays that electric discharges emit.
    Deluded because we have images of jets coming from inside pits.
    Deluded because we have jets coming from low spots on comets, e.g. the neck of 67P.
    Deluded because jets issue from the back of comets away from the Sun when Sol88's deluded dogma has thunderbolts between comets and the Sun !
  7. Sol88 lies with "a primary goal of this mission." when no mainstream science mission has ever been about his deluded dogma.
  8. Sol88 lies with "Any updates on landslides and topographic factors as the cause of the jets/outbursts." when this is not his deluded dogma.
  9. Sol88 writes "a little more plausible" stupidity when mainstream cometary science is plausible to anyone who is not an ignorant, gullible follower of an obviously deluded cult and its deluded and lying prophets.

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Sol88 emphasizes that he follows a deluded cult. Sol88 and his deluded lying prophets have no EU plasma phenomena recorded in rock in living memory. It is possible that some rock art is mainstream plasma phenomena such as aurora or solar flares or lightning balls.
Perfect.
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I expected this thread would be full of triumphant photos from those advantageous enough to experience the conjunction under clear skies. But where are those pictures?
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To my great sadness I have to report that Jean Tate (aka Neried) is no longer with us.
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthr...11#post2523011
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To my great sadness I have to report that Jean Tate (aka Neried) is no longer with us.
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthr...11#post2523011

One of my heroes. Very sad.
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I expected this thread would be full of triumphant photos from those advantageous enough to experience the conjunction under clear skies. But where are those pictures?

Wrong thread, sorry.
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To my great sadness I have to report that Jean Tate (aka Neried) is no longer with us.
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthr...11#post2523011
This is indeed very sad news. He was a model of patience and dedication. Hopefully hisbspirit is now visiting those stars he devoted part of his life to.
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Was the amorphous carbon produced on Earth mostly during Carboniferous ever found on asteroids or comets? Nope. Was amorphous carbon found on asteroids and comets possibly originating from Earth? Nope.

In short, you have nothing to prove that carbon on asteroids or comets is Earth-made coal.”

You have nothing to prove it doesn’t?
As I said: show me the proof. Show me that carbon found on asteroids is made of Earth-produced coal.

But, just as I predicted times and again, You have nothing to show or explain, and now you are trying to deflect attention to yet another element.

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EU never mentions the age of the earth. Just that there was plasma phenomena going on in living memory. Recorded in ROCK.
But that's not what you said. You didn't say it was "recording in rock". You said it was producing it, and that billions of years were not needed for such production.

I guess you can enlighten me on the process of producing coal in a short amount of time (I guess there is some ELECTRIC UNICORN involved?). And also, how one can distinguish coal produced by such a process from coal produced in the 'traditional' way. And finally, how you are sure that coal found (?) on asteroids and comets was produced by one process or the other.

I also note that you didn't answer about the age of Earth. Just for the record, this, can you explicitely tell us if your theory is incompatible with the idea that Earth was created billions of years ago?

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To my great sadness I have to report that Jean Tate (aka Neried) is no longer with us.
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthr...11#post2523011
Sad news indeed. Will be missed. I have some of his posts bookmarked here and elsewhere, under the various handles he used. Was also quite active on the comments section on Tom Bridgman's blog some time back. Had more patience than me for some of the people he dealt with.
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To my great sadness I have to report that Jean Tate (aka Neried) is no longer with us.
https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthr...11#post2523011
I can't post immediately on Cosmoquest, but just to say that I emailed Tom Bridgman and Brian Koberlein, who were also aware of JT. He commented frequently on both blogs, and helped out in the 'peer review' of the EU nonsense that got published in Bentham a few years ago, on Tom's blog. There is a thread on that somewhere on here. Both replied to express their sadness.
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Perfect.
Sol88 lies about his deluded cult and posts yet again. What I wrote was
Originally Posted by Reality Check View Post
Sol88 emphasizes that he follows a deluded cult. Sol88 and his deluded lying prophets have no EU plasma phenomena recorded in rock in living memory. It is possible that some rock art is mainstream plasma phenomena such as aurora or solar flares or lightning balls.
Real stuff such as aurora or solar flares or lightning balls are not Sol88's deluded cult's stupidity.

My point was that Sol88 and his cult believe in the blatant delusion of thunderbolts between planets. That delusion is not recorded in rock paintings. That delusion comes actually insane when they have only Mercury, Venus and Mars whizzing around the Solar System in violation of the laws of physics. as if Earth, Jupiter, Saturn, etc. did not exist . For that matter, why does the asteroid belt and moon systems exist in Sol88''s deluded dogma?
11 January 2021 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain the asteroid belt and moon systems seemingly being immune to their deluded dogma?

4 November 2020 Sol88: What is the charge difference between the massively charged active asteroid Bennu and the massively charged active comet 67P (N.B. your deluded dogma has massive thunderbolts tearing rock apart into gas and dust)?
15 December 2020 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain that the Earth is immune to their "physics"?
15 December 2020 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain the lack of minerals unique to rocky planets in the Stardust samples?
15 December 2020 Sol88: How is your Thunderbolts cult going to explain a lack of minerals unique to rocky planets in the Hayabusa2 samples?
18 December 2020 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain the lack of uniquely terrestrial minerals in meteorites?
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Oldest carbonates in the solar system



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"Using this method, the most precise age determinations thus far indicated that the parent asteroid of the Flensburg meteorite and the carbonates formed only three million years after the formation of the first solid bodies in the solar system," explains Prof. Trieloff. The carbonates are therefore more than a million years older than comparable carbonates in other types of carbonaceous chondrites. Besides the age determinations based on the radionuclide 53Mn, the tiny carbonate grains were also examined for their carbon and oxygen isotope composition with the aid of the Heidelberg Ion Probe. The carbonates apparently precipitated out of a relatively hot fluid shortly after the formation and heating of the parent asteroid. "They therefore evidence the earliest known presence of liquid water on a planetary body in the early solar system," states the cosmochemist.
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Total idiocy from Sol88.
Oldest carbonates in the solar system is about a mainstream paper on asteroids, not his deluded cult's dogma about comets !
  1. Sol88 stupidly cited an article about asteroids.
  2. Sol88's abysmal ignorance that some carbonaceous chondrites having water is textbook astronomy.
  3. Sol88's ignorant highlighting of text makes his deluded cult even more insane by pointing out how ignorant its believers are.
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Exclamation The usual abysmal level of lies, delusions, insults, etc. addressed since 6 July 2009

]The thousands of lies, delusions, insults, etc. since 6 July 2009 from Sol88 about his cult's electric comet and electric Sun dogma.
The abysmal insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn and all astronomers by Sol88 linking them with Sol88's dogma, etc. (no astronomer believes comets are actual rock)
1155 + 807 819 items of lies, insults, etc. from Sol88 since ~10 March 2020

Sol88's deluded dogma did not affect OSIRIS-REx when it touched their imaginary massively charged active asteroid Bennu!
Sol88 constantly lies with "Comets are charged rocky bodies discharging in the solar plasma"
Sol88 constantly lies that sublimation does not happen on comets when the observed ice Sol88 has cited has to sublimate
Sol88 trusts the blatantly lying and deluded Wal Thornhill yet again!
Sol88 often lies about his cult's delusions that Sol88 believes in
Sol88 constantly lies that he is supporting/modeling his deluded dogma with mainstream science.
Sol88 constantly lies that MWD is invalid, e.g. "MHD IS A BUST.", when it is working physics !
Sol88 constantly lies that every paper on comets has to mention charged dust.
Sol88 constantly lies with "dust is charged and being removed via electric forces".
Sol88 lies about the Big Bang, black holes, etc. yet again !
Sol88 lies about his cult and their deluded dogma which is based on Worlds in Collision and Velikovsky's other fantasies held to support his religious beliefs.
Sol88 and the Thunderbolts cult refusal to "Look thru the telescope"
More about Sol88's cult, Sol88's lies, Sol88 emphasizing his cult's idiocy and Thornhill's delusions about physics.
How Sol88 and Wal Thornhill make the electric comet deluded with EDM, Part II
Why Sol88's cult having comet tails as electric discharges is deluded
Sol88 constantly lies by repeating his already answered and irrelevant questions about mainstream physics
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Question How do you explain the lack of uniquely terrestrial minerals in a meteorite

Oldest carbonates in the solar system. Astronomers look at a meteorite and only report on minerals found throughout the Solar System. They are not shocked by finding granite, basalt, or sandstone!
22 January 2012 Sol88: How do you explain the lack of uniquely terrestrial minerals in the Flensburg meteorite as your deluded cult demands?

4 November 2020 Sol88: What is the charge difference between the massively charged active asteroid Bennu and the massively charged active comet 67P (N.B. your deluded dogma has massive thunderbolts tearing rock apart into gas and dust)?
15 December 2020 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain that the Earth is immune to their "physics"?
15 December 2020 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain the lack of minerals unique to rocky planets in the Stardust samples?
15 December 2020 Sol88: How is your Thunderbolts cult going to explain a lack of minerals unique to rocky planets in the Hayabusa2 samples?
18 December 2020 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain the lack of uniquely terrestrial minerals in meteorites?
11 January 2021 Sol88: How does your Thunderbolts cult explain the asteroid belt and moon systems seemingly being immune to their deluded dogma?

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The assumption that short-period (SP) comets are fragments of massive icy envelopes of Ganymede-like bodies saturated by products of ice electrolysis that underwent global explosions provides a plausible explanation of all known manifestations of comets, including the jet character of outflows, the presence of ions in the vicinity of the nucleus, the bursts and splitting of cometary nuclei, etc., with solar radiation initiating
burning of the products of electrolysis in the nucleus.

Analysis of different clusters of the DI experiment data confirms these conclusions and expectations and thus it favours the planetary origin of comets.
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The latter are considered to be nothing more than building rubble, namely, agglomerates of rocks and ices of volatile compounds left over from the time of planetary formation.

This traditional concept, however, comes in contradiction with practically all
observational evidence.
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Thus, from the not anywhere completed analysis conducted in the present paper of the available data of DI experiment it is seen that considerable part of comets may be hardly considered as a debris remained after the planet formation.
They are fragments
ejected from planets suffered long geological evolution which explains with no
contradictions their various properties and behavior, including ones observed in DI
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DEEP IMPACT MISSION TO TEMPEL 1 FAVOURS NEW EXPLOSIVE COSMOGONY OF COMETS

E.M.Drobyshevski, E.A.Kumzerova, and A.A.Schmidt







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DEEP IMPACT MISSION TO TEMPEL 1 FAVOURS NEW EXPLOSIVE COSMOGONY OF COMETS

E.M.Drobyshevski, E.A.Kumzerova, and A.A.Schmidt

Just say'n!
Appears online in 2011 in a journal that appears to have closed in 2007! It has a received date, but no acceptance date. Journal doesn't seem to have an impact factor. 'Paper' has 8 citations. Of which 5 are self-citations, two are indecipherable, due to being in Chinese, and one is about Hartley 2, and has no relevance to the silly claims made in that 'paper'.
Attempts to download it via sci-hub, from the doi number, result in a 404 not found page. It only exists on arxiv. Having read as much as I could stand, it is complete bollocks, and doesn't even read like a scientific paper, notwithstanding the authors writing in what is not their native language.

In short, it is total nonsense. Just saying.
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Exclamation Total idiocy from Sol88 by citing a published "paper"

Another Sol88 post showing that his Thunderbolts cult is only supported by ignorant, gullible people.
  1. Sol88's usual idiocy of debunking his deluded cults dogma !
    If the "paper" were correct as Sol88 must think it is by citing it, then Sol88's cult is wrong.
  2. Sol88's usual idiocy of cherry picking an irrelevant "paper".
  3. Sol88's usual stupidity of not citing his sources.
  4. Sol88's usual stupidity of not recognizing pseudoscience.
    No surprise there since he is a gullible member of an obviously deluded cult..
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