[Split Thread] Is Donald Trump a Truther? - Page 2

Cosmic Yak · 21st November 2018, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

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But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker".

Originally Posted by pgimeno

It's been almost half a year. How "soon" is "soon"?

Should I start "worry"ing already? How granular (if that's what you mean) is justice going, and where can we see the results so far?

Maybe it's too "soon". If so, I'll ask again in another half year.

I think it's probably time to ask that question again.
How about it, CE? Is "soon" getting any nearer? Is "grainual justice" (whatever that might be) heading our way?

grandmastershek · 5th December 2018, 11:51 AM

Just imagine the cultish mindset you must have to think that because people do not agree with your assessment, they therefore must be guilty of a crime. Consider if you think OJ really did kill (I do) his wife and her lover, and then people come along accusing you of being complicit in their murder. Astounding stuff there.

beachnut · 5th December 2018, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

...
9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther" ...

The facts are in, like 9/11 truth "truther" being liars and believers in idiotic lies, the minority president t-rump is the liar in chief (lic).

fuelair · 6th December 2018, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

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https://i.imgur.com/RlIO9Jo.gif

Chemtrails are a rare occasion of a "conspiracy theory" that can be investigated by everybody under NATO skies.

9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses". I think I got it in 2008 when Alex Jones was leading his brown shirts shouting about the "New World Order" into NYC memorial. Lost cause as a prime focus. But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker".

He is certainly a liar, so why not!!!!!

pgimeno · 11th March 2019, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker".

Hi Childlike Empress,

It's been a year now since your post, so...

How "soon" is "soon"?

Should I start "worry"ing already?

How granular (if that's what you mean) is justice going? Can you point me to the progress of justice in this field, please, so I can evaluate by myself if I should "worry"?

I hope your rationalization batteries are fully charged, because this is going to deplete them.

Henri McPhee · 11th March 2019, 09:23 AM

Trump looks like a fascist to me.

threadworm · 11th March 2019, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by MicahJava

Did I say "Trump is a WTC demolition theorist and here's the proof"? No. I asked if he signed one of AE911TRUTH's pamphlets. Damn.

That's not what you asked or implied.

Cosmic Yak · 13th March 2019, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by pgimeno

Hi Childlike Empress,

It's been a year now since your post, so...

How "soon" is "soon"?

Should I start "worry"ing already?

How granular (if that's what you mean) is justice going? Can you point me to the progress of justice in this field, please, so I can evaluate by myself if I should "worry"?

I hope your rationalization batteries are fully charged, because this is going to deplete them.

I do hope CE replies, and gives us a definite date. You have no idea of the stress I've endured for the last year, worrying about when this day of reckoning is coming.

Or not.

Cosmic Yak · 13th March 2019, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee

Trump looks like a fascist to me.

A fact both facscinating and important. Thank you for sharing it.

The Great Zaganza · 13th March 2019, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee

Trump looks like a fascist to me.

nah - he lacks commitment.

applecorped · 13th March 2019, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

nah - he lacks commitment.

Gingervytes · 17th April 2019, 06:16 AM

No

TJM · 17th April 2019, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Gingervytes

No

Hi

beachnut · 22nd April 2019, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Gingervytes

No

You mean windmill cancer nut?

The liar in chief can't be a truther. Wait, truthers are liars, does that not make clownstick overqualified to be a truther.

Is it possible truthers are clueless that they are liars? yes

pgimeno · 11th March 2020, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker".

It's been two years now. How "soon" is "soon"?

Should I start "worry"ing already? How granular (if that's what you mean by "grainual") is justice going, and where can we see the results so far?

Was the denial of Ansgar Schneider's visa part of these results? http://www.internationalskeptics.com...6#post12820076

Childlike Empress · 11th March 2020, 07:43 AM

We're closer to "soon" than we were last year.

Dave Rogers · 11th March 2020, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

We're closer to "soon" than we were last year.

We're closer to the eventual heat death of the Universe than we were last year, but I still don't worry about seeing it in my lifetime.

Dave

The Great Zaganza · 11th March 2020, 08:07 AM

If 9/11 happened on Trump's watch, he would definitely believe that it was a Deep State plot against him.

bknight · 11th March 2020, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Dave Rogers

We're closer to the eventual heat death of the Universe than we were last year, but I still don't worry about seeing it in my lifetime.

Dave

You don't plan on being 5 BY old???

beachnut · 11th March 2020, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

... your president is "a truther", ...

Nope clownstick is an idiot, you are the NoC truther.

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

... 9/11 "truth" has not "died out", ...

You got this right, but NoC wrong... it takes the application of critical thinking skills to get out of 9/11 truth. Idiots who believe in paranoid conspiracy theories like 9/11 truthers will not die out, ignorance is hard to defeat. There are always new gullible paranoid humans who blindly believe liars who spread idiotic claims, like 9/11 truth does.

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

We're closer to "soon" than we were last year.

Check is in the mail.

How soon will you and other 9/11 truth believers be able to debunk the NoC and other 9/11 truth lies and paranoid claims? Clownstick debunked 9/11 truth and he has no clue he did.

carlitos · 11th March 2020, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by pgimeno

It's been two years now. How "soon" is "soon"?

Much like the return of Jesus, the conspiracy theory is always just around the corner. Just as an example, the world population is over 7 billion, and the depopulation conspiracy theories have been around for decades. From the nutzlozer Esser to nuclear weapons to AIDS to vaccines to corona virus, "they" are always planning to reduce the world population, and yet it still grows.

bknight · 11th March 2020, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by beachnut

Nope clownstick is an idiot, you are the NoC truther.

Gasp another one???

Quote:

You got this right, but NoC wrong... it takes the application of critical thinking skills to get out of 9/11 truth. Idiots who believe in paranoid conspiracy theories like 9/11 truthers will not die out, ignorance is hard to defeat. There are always new gullible paranoid humans who blindly believe liars who spread idiotic claims, like 9/11 truth does.

Check is in the mail.

How soon will you and other 9/11 truth believers be able to debunk the NoC and other 9/11 truth lies and paranoid claims? Clownstick debunked 9/11 truth and he has no clue he did.

Strange she didn't post in ruby's thread, but maybe way before my time.

waypastvne · 11th March 2020, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by bknight

Strange she

He.

bknight · 12th March 2020, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by waypastvne

He.

CE is a guy?

carlitos · 12th March 2020, 07:36 AM

Allen773 · 15th March 2020, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

We're closer to "soon" than we were last year.

What are you even talking about?

Lupus · 27th July 2020, 02:10 AM

If Trump were to believe that 9/11 was an inside job then that would be 99.9% proof that it was because he has access to government top secret records. That'd make him be in the right.
You can really see the power of skeptic logic here.

Dave Rogers · 27th July 2020, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Lupus

If Trump were to believe that 9/11 was an inside job then that would be 99.9% proof that it was because he has access to government top secret records. That'd make him be in the right.
You can really see the power of skeptic logic here.

No, no, no, you've missed a bit. If Trump believes 9/11 was an inside job, that proves an inside job, because he has access to all the secrets; but if he doesn't believe it was an inside job, that's either because the deep state has hidden the truth from him or because he's been a disinformation agent all along, and the whole point of the Trump Presidency has been to discredit the conspiracy theories by presenting the illusion of a President so deeply anti-establishment that he'd be bound to uncover evidence for a conspiracy if any existed, so if he hasn't then it can't. Basically, everything proves the conspiracy, even disproof of the conspiracy. If what you're saying is in the same universe as the concept of logic, you're getting it wrong.

Dave

The Great Zaganza · 27th July 2020, 03:52 AM

As soon as someone finds the link between 9/11 and Obama, it was an Inside Job.

Oystein · 27th July 2020, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Lupus

If Trump were to believe that 9/11 was an inside job then that would be 99.9% proof that it was because he has access to government top secret records. That'd make him be in the right.
You can really see the power of skeptic logic here.

You assume, with zero supporting evidence, that he a) reads b) understands records pertaining to government.

Horatius · 27th July 2020, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Lupus

If Trump were to believe that 9/11 was an inside job then that would be 99.9% proof that it was because he has access to government top secret records. That'd make him be in the right.
You can really see the power of skeptic logic here.

Except that we have multiple examples now of Trump being told something by his own government agents, and still believing the opposite thing is true.

The intelligence services were telling him in January that COVID-19 would be a problem. He denied that at the time, and continues to deny it now, even after almost 150,000 deaths in the US.

The intelligence services were telling him that Russia acted to illegally influence the 2016 election, and he still insists that Russia had nothing to do with it.

He insists that, in fact, Ukraine was the one illegally influencing the 2016 election, even though his own intelligence services can find zero evidence for this claim. Even his own hand-picked minions like Rudy Giuliani couldn't find the evidence for him, but he continues to make this claim.

He insists that "millions" of fraudulent votes were cast in 2016, despite his own investigation turning up virtually zero evidence of voter fraud on any scale, let alone an organized fraud involving millions of ballots.

So there would be nothing surprising in him expressing belief in the standard Truther Talking Points, even if he'd reviewed every single classified document available to the US government, and found that they contained no evidence for an inside job, and copious evidence that it was bin Laden and Al Qaeda that did it.

beachnut · 27th July 2020, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Lupus

If Trump were to believe that 9/11 was an inside job then that would be 99.9% proof ....

More like 100 percent proof, He is an idiot...

trustbutverify · 27th July 2020, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by waypastvne

He.

She.

dann · 27th July 2020, 10:50 PM

Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

Norman Alexander · 28th July 2020, 12:06 AM

Whatever Trump think is best for Trump right now, that is the truth. So today, 9/11 Truth is the truth, but 10 minutes from now it will not be. Then it will be again tomorrow. Or the day after. In two weeks...

trustbutverify · 28th July 2020, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by dann

Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

Crypto-Nazi. Putinette. Jew-baiter. Self-serving conpiratoid narcissist.

yankee451 · 16th September 2020, 10:23 AM

Is Trump a truther? Snort. Hardly.

What is Shanksville but a fable agreed upon?
https://youtu.be/IO80HFdYDk4

beachnut · 16th September 2020, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by yankee451

... Snort. ...

Why is the missile theory the most insane? Got any evidence yet? NO

Trump pushes conspiracy theories, like you do. Do you believe his windmill cancer thing?

yankee451 · 16th September 2020, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by beachnut

Why is the missile theory the most insane? Got any evidence yet?

Beyond that which was supplied by NASA, and the empirical evidence linked above, which anyone can test for themselves? Means, motive, and opportunity, Daddy-o! But don't forget the bouncing smoke plume!

https://youtu.be/AsUDlaRsbXY

beachnut · 16th September 2020, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by yankee451

Beyond that which was supplied by NASA, and the empirical evidence linked above, which anyone can test for themselves? Means, motive, and opportunity, Daddy-o! But don't forget the bouncing smoke plume!

https://youtu.be/AsUDlaRsbXY

the missiles remain the most idiotic claim, how can you make it? You mock the murder of thousands by 19 terrorists with lies of missiles.

Spreading lies about 9/11 is pathetic, like trump who lies about everything.

21st November 2018, 01:41 AM	#41
Cosmic Yak Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand. Posts: 3,887	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress [info]Thread split from here[/info] But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker". Originally Posted by pgimeno It's been almost half a year. How "soon" is "soon"? Should I start "worry"ing already? How granular (if that's what you mean) is justice going, and where can we see the results so far? Maybe it's too "soon". If so, I'll ask again in another half year. I think it's probably time to ask that question again. How about it, CE? Is "soon" getting any nearer? Is "grainual justice" (whatever that might be) heading our way?
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5th December 2018, 12:46 PM	#43
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 25,831	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress ... 9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther" ... The facts are in, like 9/11 truth "truther" being liars and believers in idiotic lies, the minority president t-rump is the liar in chief (lic).
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6th December 2018, 11:22 PM	#44
fuelair Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 58,581	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress [info]Thread split from here[/info] https://i.imgur.com/RlIO9Jo.gif Chemtrails are a rare occasion of a "conspiracy theory" that can be investigated by everybody under NATO skies. 9/11 "truth" has not "died out", in fact your president is "a truther", who knows like everybody who paid attention that this truth is just too hard to swallow for the average propaganda victim, i.e. "the masses". I think I got it in 2008 when Alex Jones was leading his brown shirts shouting about the "New World Order" into NYC memorial. Lost cause as a prime focus. But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker". He is certainly a liar, so why not!!!!!
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11th March 2019, 10:38 PM	#47
threadworm Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,596	Originally Posted by MicahJava Did I say "Trump is a WTC demolition theorist and here's the proof"? No. I asked if he signed one of AE911TRUTH's pamphlets. Damn. That's not what you asked or implied.
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13th March 2019, 01:19 AM	#48
Cosmic Yak Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand. Posts: 3,887	Originally Posted by pgimeno Hi Childlike Empress, It's been a year now since your post, so... How "soon" is "soon"? Should I start "worry"ing already? How granular (if that's what you mean) is justice going? Can you point me to the progress of justice in this field, please, so I can evaluate by myself if I should "worry"? I hope your rationalization batteries are fully charged, because this is going to deplete them. I do hope CE replies, and gives us a definite date. You have no idea of the stress I've endured for the last year, worrying about when this day of reckoning is coming. Or not.
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5th December 2018, 11:51 AM	#42
grandmastershek Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,461	Just imagine the cultish mindset you must have to think that because people do not agree with your assessment, they therefore must be guilty of a crime. Consider if you think OJ really did kill (I do) his wife and her lover, and then people come along accusing you of being complicit in their murder. Astounding stuff there.

11th March 2019, 09:05 AM	#45
pgimeno Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 3,641	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker". Hi Childlike Empress, It's been a year now since your post, so... How "soon" is "soon"? Should I start "worry"ing already? How granular (if that's what you mean) is justice going? Can you point me to the progress of justice in this field, please, so I can evaluate by myself if I should "worry"? I hope your rationalization batteries are fully charged, because this is going to deplete them.

11th March 2019, 09:23 AM	#46
Henri McPhee Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 3,979	Trump looks like a fascist to me.

13th March 2019, 01:21 AM	#49
Cosmic Yak Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand. Posts: 3,887	Originally Posted by Henri McPhee Trump looks like a fascist to me. A fact both facscinating and important. Thank you for sharing it.
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13th March 2019, 11:44 AM	#50
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,607	Originally Posted by Henri McPhee Trump looks like a fascist to me. nah - he lacks commitment.
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13th March 2019, 04:07 PM	#51
applecorped Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 20,145	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza nah - he lacks commitment.
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17th April 2019, 06:16 AM	#52
Gingervytes Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 286	No

17th April 2019, 07:50 PM	#53
TJM Potsing Whiled Runk Tagger Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 21,636	Originally Posted by Gingervytes No Hi
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22nd April 2019, 09:01 AM	#54
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 25,831	Originally Posted by Gingervytes No You mean windmill cancer nut? The liar in chief can't be a truther. Wait, truthers are liars, does that not make clownstick overqualified to be a truther. Is it possible truthers are clueless that they are liars? yes
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11th March 2020, 07:05 AM	#55
pgimeno Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 3,641	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress But don't "worry", the insurance files are filled to the brinks and the game will "soon" come to a place where you will have to worry if justice will go grainual enough to reach you, "debunker". It's been two years now. How "soon" is "soon"? Should I start "worry"ing already? How granular (if that's what you mean by "grainual") is justice going, and where can we see the results so far? Was the denial of Ansgar Schneider's visa part of these results? http://www.internationalskeptics.com...6#post12820076

11th March 2020, 07:43 AM	#56
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 18,952	We're closer to "soon" than we were last year.
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11th March 2020, 08:00 AM	#57
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 32,352	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress We're closer to "soon" than we were last year. We're closer to the eventual heat death of the Universe than we were last year, but I still don't worry about seeing it in my lifetime. Dave
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11th March 2020, 08:07 AM	#58
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,607	If 9/11 happened on Trump's watch, he would definitely believe that it was a Deep State plot against him.
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11th March 2020, 09:11 AM	#59
bknight Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,359	Originally Posted by Dave Rogers We're closer to the eventual heat death of the Universe than we were last year, but I still don't worry about seeing it in my lifetime. Dave You don't plan on being 5 BY old???

11th March 2020, 09:42 AM	#60
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 25,831	"soon" = never, in 9/11 truth land of woo Originally Posted by Childlike Empress ... your president is "a truther", ... Nope clownstick is an idiot, you are the NoC truther. Originally Posted by Childlike Empress ... 9/11 "truth" has not "died out", ... You got this right, but NoC wrong... it takes the application of critical thinking skills to get out of 9/11 truth. Idiots who believe in paranoid conspiracy theories like 9/11 truthers will not die out, ignorance is hard to defeat. There are always new gullible paranoid humans who blindly believe liars who spread idiotic claims, like 9/11 truth does. Originally Posted by Childlike Empress We're closer to "soon" than we were last year. Check is in the mail. How soon will you and other 9/11 truth believers be able to debunk the NoC and other 9/11 truth lies and paranoid claims? Clownstick debunked 9/11 truth and he has no clue he did.
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11th March 2020, 10:43 AM	#61
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA! USA! Posts: 22,783	Originally Posted by pgimeno It's been two years now. How "soon" is "soon"? Much like the return of Jesus, the conspiracy theory is always just around the corner. Just as an example, the world population is over 7 billion, and the depopulation conspiracy theories have been around for decades. From the nutzlozer Esser to nuclear weapons to AIDS to vaccines to corona virus, "they" are always planning to reduce the world population, and yet it still grows.

11th March 2020, 01:10 PM	#62
bknight Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,359	Originally Posted by beachnut Nope clownstick is an idiot, you are the NoC truther. Gasp another one??? Quote: You got this right, but NoC wrong... it takes the application of critical thinking skills to get out of 9/11 truth. Idiots who believe in paranoid conspiracy theories like 9/11 truthers will not die out, ignorance is hard to defeat. There are always new gullible paranoid humans who blindly believe liars who spread idiotic claims, like 9/11 truth does. Check is in the mail. How soon will you and other 9/11 truth believers be able to debunk the NoC and other 9/11 truth lies and paranoid claims? Clownstick debunked 9/11 truth and he has no clue he did. Strange she didn't post in ruby's thread, but maybe way before my time.

11th March 2020, 05:26 PM	#63
waypastvne Muse Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 537	Originally Posted by bknight Strange she He.
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12th March 2020, 05:29 AM	#64
bknight Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,359	Originally Posted by waypastvne He. CE is a guy?

12th March 2020, 07:36 AM	#65
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15th March 2020, 05:57 PM	#66
Allen773 Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cali Four Neea Posts: 1,353	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress We're closer to "soon" than we were last year. What are you even talking about?

27th July 2020, 02:10 AM	#67
Lupus Scholar Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 85	If Trump were to believe that 9/11 was an inside job then that would be 99.9% proof that it was because he has access to government top secret records. That'd make him be in the right. You can really see the power of skeptic logic here.
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27th July 2020, 02:55 AM	#68
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 32,352	Originally Posted by Lupus If Trump were to believe that 9/11 was an inside job then that would be 99.9% proof that it was because he has access to government top secret records. That'd make him be in the right. You can really see the power of skeptic logic here. No, no, no, you've missed a bit. If Trump believes 9/11 was an inside job, that proves an inside job, because he has access to all the secrets; but if he doesn't believe it was an inside job, that's either because the deep state has hidden the truth from him or because he's been a disinformation agent all along, and the whole point of the Trump Presidency has been to discredit the conspiracy theories by presenting the illusion of a President so deeply anti-establishment that he'd be bound to uncover evidence for a conspiracy if any existed, so if he hasn't then it can't. Basically, everything proves the conspiracy, even disproof of the conspiracy. If what you're saying is in the same universe as the concept of logic, you're getting it wrong. Dave
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27th July 2020, 03:52 AM	#69
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,607	As soon as someone finds the link between 9/11 and Obama, it was an Inside Job.
	__________________ So what are you going to do about it, huh? What would an intellectual do? What would Plato do?

27th July 2020, 08:18 AM	#70
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 16,994	Originally Posted by Lupus If Trump were to believe that 9/11 was an inside job then that would be 99.9% proof that it was because he has access to government top secret records. That'd make him be in the right. You can really see the power of skeptic logic here. You assume, with zero supporting evidence, that he a) reads b) understands records pertaining to government.
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27th July 2020, 08:34 AM	#71
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,006	Originally Posted by Lupus If Trump were to believe that 9/11 was an inside job then that would be 99.9% proof that it was because he has access to government top secret records. That'd make him be in the right. You can really see the power of skeptic logic here. Except that we have multiple examples now of Trump being told something by his own government agents, and still believing the opposite thing is true. The intelligence services were telling him in January that COVID-19 would be a problem. He denied that at the time, and continues to deny it now, even after almost 150,000 deaths in the US. The intelligence services were telling him that Russia acted to illegally influence the 2016 election, and he still insists that Russia had nothing to do with it. He insists that, in fact, Ukraine was the one illegally influencing the 2016 election, even though his own intelligence services can find zero evidence for this claim. Even his own hand-picked minions like Rudy Giuliani couldn't find the evidence for him, but he continues to make this claim. He insists that "millions" of fraudulent votes were cast in 2016, despite his own investigation turning up virtually zero evidence of voter fraud on any scale, let alone an organized fraud involving millions of ballots. So there would be nothing surprising in him expressing belief in the standard Truther Talking Points, even if he'd reviewed every single classified document available to the US government, and found that they contained no evidence for an inside job, and copious evidence that it was bin Laden and Al Qaeda that did it.
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27th July 2020, 08:17 PM	#72
beachnut Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dog House Posts: 25,831	Originally Posted by Lupus If Trump were to believe that 9/11 was an inside job then that would be 99.9% proof .... More like 100 percent proof, He is an idiot...
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27th July 2020, 10:10 PM	#73
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8,878	Originally Posted by waypastvne He. She.
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27th July 2020, 10:50 PM	#74
dann Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,522	Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.
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28th July 2020, 12:06 AM	#75
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 8,733	Whatever Trump think is best for Trump right now, that is the truth. So today, 9/11 Truth is the truth, but 10 minutes from now it will not be. Then it will be again tomorrow. Or the day after. In two weeks...
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