[Continuation] The Trump Presidency: Part 24 - Page 5

Giordano · 24th July 2020, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by quadraginta

What is delicious about this is that when Charlotte wouldn't promise him carte blanc to fill their facility to capacity regardless of Covid19 ... telling him that it would depend on the circumstances surrounding Covid19 precautions when the time came ... he threw a tantrum, picked up his toys, and loudly proclaimed he was going to move it. Jacksonville, apparently, being more accommodating to his ego and destructive urges.

But not all of the GOP nomination functions have been cancelled, and now the essential ones are still going to be held.

Guess where?

When will people learn? Everything Trump touches dies. Well, more accurately everyone who gets involved with Trump comes off the worse for it. Business partners, contractors, friends, relatives, customers, staff, lawyers, political supporters, etc. They come away with their wallets emptied, their reputations in ruins, or both. His entire life has consisted of using other people and throwing them under a bus. Why not an entire city (or two) and all of the supporters who have devoted time, money, and resources toward delivering the type of epic coronation Trump had insisted on... until yesterday.

Captain_Swoop · 24th July 2020, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Belz...

Yeah but I saw the original tweet and it doesn't have asterisks.

I never put them in.

Captain_Swoop · 24th July 2020, 08:36 AM

Trump Tweets

I spoke to highly respected (Chairman) Senator @JimInhofe, who has informed me that he WILL NOT be changing the names of our great Military Bases and Forts, places from which we won two World Wars (and more!). Like me, Jim is not a believer in “Cancel Culture”.

Great job by @elonmusk in agreeing to build, in TEXAS, what is expected to be the largest auto plant anywhere in the world. He kept his word to me. Texas & @Tesla are big winners. MADE IN THE USA!

Captain_Swoop · 24th July 2020, 08:39 AM

Why is Trump saying Elon Musk agreed’ to build in TX as if Trump made some big move that persuaded Musk to do so?
Same way Trump is with the Space X program

Belz... · 24th July 2020, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

I never put them in.

I'm not saying you did. I was curious so I checked and found nothing. I don't know what happened.

Segnosaur · 24th July 2020, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Trump Tweets

I spoke to highly respected (Chairman) Senator @JimInhofe, who has informed me that he WILL NOT be changing the names of our great Military Bases and Forts, places from which we won two World Wars (and more!). Like me, Jim is not a believer in “Cancel Culture”.

Could be wrong about this, but I don't think a single senator (even the chairman of the armed forces committee) can really do much to stop the renaming at this point.

Both the house and senate have passed defense spending bills that include provisions to rename bases, and the senate bill passed 86-14.

See: NPR

slyjoe · 24th July 2020, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Could be wrong about this, but I don't think a single senator (even the chairman of the armed forces committee) can really do much to stop the renaming at this point.

Both the house and senate have passed defense spending bills that include provisions to rename bases, and the senate bill passed 86-14.

See: NPR

The senator is correct. He will not be renaming the bases.

ETA: And by the way, only about half the bases named after confederates were around in WWI.

JoeMorgue · 24th July 2020, 08:47 AM

At this point since it's become "a thing" in the political discourse, even if we rename, for instance, Fort Bragg there's a fair chance we'll just run into the "Yeah you can say it's technically called Willis Tower and put it on all the signs and paperwork you want, but don't kid yourself it's still the Sears Tower" problem.

The Don · 24th July 2020, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Why is Trump saying Elon Musk agreed’ to build in TX as if Trump made some big move that persuaded Musk to do so?
Same way Trump is with the Space X program

He has always been perfectly happy to claim credit for things he has had nothing to do with.

Garrison · 24th July 2020, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Why is Trump saying Elon Musk agreed’ to build in TX as if Trump made some big move that persuaded Musk to do so?
Same way Trump is with the Space X program

SpaceX set up at Boca Chica because its in a state where there's plenty of potential employees with experience in spaceflight and there's plenty of room to blow stuff up.

There was probably a political dimension in trying to make sure that Texas politicians had less reason to lobby in favour of some of the 'old space' firms. Trump had nothing to do with it.

chrispy · 24th July 2020, 09:12 AM

The new Lincoln Project ad is a winner, even for them

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/s...87854823903232

enjoy

Modified · 24th July 2020, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by chrispy

The new Lincoln Project ad is a winner, even for them

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/s...87854823903232

enjoy

That needs to go on national TV.

Trebuchet · 24th July 2020, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Garrison

SpaceX set up at Boca Chica because its in a state where there's plenty of potential employees with experience in spaceflight and there's plenty of room to blow stuff up.

There was probably a political dimension in trying to make sure that Texas politicians had less reason to lobby in favour of some of the 'old space' firms. Trump had nothing to do with it.

And a clear shot over water to the east for launches. And hey, if the rocket goes awry there's a 50-50 chance it'll land on Mexico!

EvilBiker · 24th July 2020, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B

Good news: You win!

Bad news: You've just dated yourself!

https://youtu.be/Xjq1P5p3fso

I’m...well-informed

TheSupermeerkat · 24th July 2020, 09:43 AM

And the Lincoln Project does it again,

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...e-with-Maxwell

Do these get shown on TV?

Skeptic Ginger · 24th July 2020, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by TofuFighter

Allison Burger, Ladiz Washroom, Emplys Mustwashands

It certainly seemed that he was just picking words out of the air at the time, and their relative association to one another suggests a mind not exactly trying to overreach. All the same, I'm sure I'm not alone in giving him the old golf clap for his superhuman ability to remember 5 words.

trump is like the Mechanical Turk, but the guy inside died ages ago from secret government mind-rays.

Not out of the air. Camera, TV, think about it. Those were things he was looking at, aka cues.

Darat · 24th July 2020, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

He has always been perfectly happy to claim credit for things he has had nothing to do with.

And pass the buck for things he has had everything to do with!

Segnosaur · 24th July 2020, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat

And the Lincoln Project does it again,

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...e-with-Maxwell

Do these get shown on TV?

Yes they do.

Not all get shown on broadcast TV/cable (some are only shown on line), but they do sometime buy air time to target their ads to select states and/or broadcasters to get the best effect.

Example:
Argus Leader - Ads shown in south dakota prior to Trump's event there

Politico - Mentions broadcasting of ads in battleground states and on Fox News

slyjoe · 24th July 2020, 10:24 AM

The ads generally air in Arizona, but I think they are mostly targeted to Washington DC so Trump will see them.

Safe-Keeper · 24th July 2020, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by chrispy

The new Lincoln Project ad is a winner, even for them

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/s...87854823903232

enjoy

The LP's slogan could be "when they go low, we give chase"

Also, even seeing Trump talking with a cartoon child instinctively gave me the willies.

Galaxie · 24th July 2020, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by quadraginta

Only three? Are you trying to suggest your mom is a cheap drunk?

Hey! That's my mama you're talking about!

Actually, she only recently took up wine drinking and needs more practice

Armitage72 · 24th July 2020, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Could be wrong about this, but I don't think a single senator (even the chairman of the armed forces committee) can really do much to stop the renaming at this point.

Both the house and senate have passed defense spending bills that include provisions to rename bases, and the senate bill passed 86-14.

He says he's going to do "something", but won't say what.

Quote:

Inhofe is now vowing to keep provisions to strip Confederate names from military bases out of the final National Defense Authorization Act -- although it's unclear how he could pull it off after both chambers of Congress approved similar efforts to get rid of the names with veto-proof majorities this week. Inhofe, who voted for the bill in the Senate, will be one of one of the four main negotiators in the conference committee to hammer out the final bill.
"We're going to see to it that provision doesn't survive the bill," Inhofe told The Oklahoman on Friday. "I'm not going to say how at this point."

Stomp his feet and hold his breath until they agree to remove the provision?

Segnosaur · 24th July 2020, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

Re: Trump claiming Inhofe ws going to prevent removal of confederate names from army bases...

Quote:

Could be wrong about this, but I don't think a single senator (even the chairman of the armed forces committee) can really do much to stop the renaming at this point.

He says he's going to do "something", but won't say what.

Stomp his feet and hold his breath until they agree to remove the provision?

Start a snowball fight in the senate?

(Inhofe was the senator who brought a snowball into congress to 'prove' global warming was a hoax.)

Segnosaur · 24th July 2020, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Giordano

When will people learn? Everything Trump touches dies. Well, more accurately everyone who gets involved with Trump comes off the worse for it. Business partners, contractors, friends, relatives, customers, staff, lawyers, political supporters, etc. They come away with their wallets emptied, their reputations in ruins, or both.

On a related note:

From: Vanity Fair
Guilfoyle, a former Fox News personality and girlfriend of Donald Trump Jr., formally joined the president’s re-election bid as a senior adviser in 2019 and has been serving since February as the campaign’s national finance chair...according to Politico, she’s also overseen a money-raising operation rife with chaos, cronyism, and backstabbing.... staffers have reportedly been further upset by Guilfoyle claiming credit for their work—and for apparent disregard for rank-and-file campaign workers, as evidenced by an episode earlier this month in which she and Don Jr. left junior staffers stranded in South Dakota after she tested positive for COVID-19....The couple had originally made plans to road trip back to New York from South Dakota, where the president gave a dark and divisive speech in front of Mount Rushmore, but apparently took a private flight instead, leaving several junior campaign staffers who’d been in contact with the infected Guilfoyle behind to quarantine alone in their hotel rooms, “scared they’d get sick in a city they’d never set foot in before."

I don't really have any sympathy for those staffers... They knew what Trump and his clan were, with a history of turning on former supporters. They knew the risks of holding a large-scale gathering during a pandemic. But they went along.

Hard to know what part of the story that I like more...

- Seeing more Trump minions suffer because of their association with the Trump administration.
- That Trump has someone handling campaign finances who may be almost as incompetent as he is. (I am sure they will raise plenty of money, but probably not as much as they would have had they had someone competent in charge.)

Safe-Keeper · 24th July 2020, 02:20 PM

The Lincoln Project just uploaded a powerful follow-up to their Maxwell ad. The implication of what she might have on Trump is indeed troubling, and they set up the accusation wonderfully. Honestly, it's little more than a conspiracy theory setup, but god, do they do a good job setting it up and delivering it.

I would ask the Trump supporters what they make of all this, but it seems they haven't discovered this new thread yet. I'm sure they'll make their way over from the other threads any time, though

.

Belz... · 24th July 2020, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

The Lincoln Project just uploaded a powerful follow-up to their Maxwell ad.

Where? I can only see their first Maxwell add from this morning on their channel.

Safe-Keeper · 24th July 2020, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Belz...

Where? I can only see their first Maxwell add from this morning on their channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqnCLoI9Eio

Oh. They took it down. Maybe it was accidentally uploaded too early.

Either way, it consisted first of a montage of Trump verbally abusing women, mostly female reporters, and then asking the question of why Trump is suddenly so nice and respectful when talking about the leader of a sex slave ring, and then, with this two-part setup delivered, asks what Maxwell has on Trump.

It's a powerful implication -- that Donald Trump, with his already established history of womanizing, sexual assault allegations, and being caught on tape bragging about forcibly kissing and groping women, is or has also been involved in organised sexual abuse of children.

It reminds me of the Pizzagate debacle, only it's a heck of a lot more plausible. Heck, if Trump's ever mentioned Pizzagate, it might even have been his usual projecting.

alfaniner · 24th July 2020, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by chrispy

The new Lincoln Project ad is a winner, even for them

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/s...87854823903232

enjoy

The really funny/sad thing is that it's not just the same clip repeated of him saying the list, it's him repeating the list so he says it four different times during that interview. And it looks like he was struggling by the last effort.

Norman Alexander · 24th July 2020, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

The really funny/sad thing is that it's not just the same clip repeated of him saying the list, it's him repeating the list so he says it four different times during that interview. And it looks like he was struggling by the last effort.

Not surprising, given he usually can't remember the start of a sentence by the time he gets to the end of it.

Jim_MDP · 24th July 2020, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Not surprising, given he usually can't remember the start of a sentence by the time he gets to the end of it.

Can't hold that against him... I get the same way trying to read the damn things.

carlitos · 24th July 2020, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Not out of the air. Camera, TV, think about it. Those were things he was looking at, aka cues.

At :18 seconds, he looks directly into the camera, and says "camera"

Stacyhs · 24th July 2020, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Not surprising, given he usually can't remember the start of a sentence by the time he gets to the end of it.

Norman Alexander · 24th July 2020, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...b6c18de1fb.png

Most of the time he never even gets to point B ever at all.

Stacyhs · 24th July 2020, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

At :18 seconds, he looks directly into the camera, and says "camera"

Hey, at least he recognized it as a camera! I bet Chris Wallace couldn't have done that.

Stacyhs · 24th July 2020, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Most of the time he never even gets to point B ever at all.

Yes, he does. The end point is always about himself.

Ladewig · 24th July 2020, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

At :18 seconds, he looks directly into the camera, and says "camera"

A genius.
There are chuckleheads who consider him a genius.

We are so *******

Sideroxylon · 24th July 2020, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Hey, at least he recognized it as a camera! I bet Chris Wallace couldn't have done that.

Not in order.

Aridas · 24th July 2020, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

It's a powerful implication -- that Donald Trump, with his already established history of womanizing, sexual assault allegations, and being caught on tape bragging about forcibly kissing and groping women, is or has also been involved in organised sexual abuse of children.

I think it might be a decent time to put out a reminder that Trump has indeed been accused of sexual abuse of children in connection with Epstein.

acbytesla · 24th July 2020, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

A genius.
There are chuckleheads who consider him a genius.

We are so *******

Pretty sure Kevin Kline was playing Trump in a Fish Called Wanda.

Wanda: Oh, right! To call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people! I've known sheep that could outwit you. I've worn dresses with higher IQs. But you think you're an intellectual, don't you, ape?

Donnie: Apes don't read philosophy.

Wanda: Yes they do,. They just don't understand it. Now let me correct you on a couple of things, OK? Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not "Every man for himself." And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Donnie. I looked them up..

Ladewig · 24th July 2020, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Most of the time he never even gets to point B ever at all.

Agreed.

I think it is more

24th July 2020, 08:42 AM	#165
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a post-fact world Posts: 91,333	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop I never put them in. I'm not saying you did. I was curious so I checked and found nothing. I don't know what happened.
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24th July 2020, 08:45 AM	#166
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,106	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Trump Tweets I spoke to highly respected (Chairman) Senator @JimInhofe, who has informed me that he WILL NOT be changing the names of our great Military Bases and Forts, places from which we won two World Wars (and more!). Like me, Jim is not a believer in “Cancel Culture”. Could be wrong about this, but I don't think a single senator (even the chairman of the armed forces committee) can really do much to stop the renaming at this point. Both the house and senate have passed defense spending bills that include provisions to rename bases, and the senate bill passed 86-14. See: NPR
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24th July 2020, 08:47 AM	#167
slyjoe Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Near Harmonica Virgins, AZ Posts: 2,556	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Could be wrong about this, but I don't think a single senator (even the chairman of the armed forces committee) can really do much to stop the renaming at this point. Both the house and senate have passed defense spending bills that include provisions to rename bases, and the senate bill passed 86-14. See: NPR The senator is correct. He will not be renaming the bases. ETA: And by the way, only about half the bases named after confederates were around in WWI.
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24th July 2020, 08:47 AM	#168
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 30,618	At this point since it's become "a thing" in the political discourse, even if we rename, for instance, Fort Bragg there's a fair chance we'll just run into the "Yeah you can say it's technically called Willis Tower and put it on all the signs and paperwork you want, but don't kid yourself it's still the Sears Tower" problem.
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24th July 2020, 08:53 AM	#170
Garrison Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 5,528	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Why is Trump saying Elon Musk agreed’ to build in TX as if Trump made some big move that persuaded Musk to do so? Same way Trump is with the Space X program SpaceX set up at Boca Chica because its in a state where there's plenty of potential employees with experience in spaceflight and there's plenty of room to blow stuff up. There was probably a political dimension in trying to make sure that Texas politicians had less reason to lobby in favour of some of the 'old space' firms. Trump had nothing to do with it.
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24th July 2020, 07:32 AM	#161
Giordano Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 17,646	Originally Posted by quadraginta What is delicious about this is that when Charlotte wouldn't promise him carte blanc to fill their facility to capacity regardless of Covid19 ... telling him that it would depend on the circumstances surrounding Covid19 precautions when the time came ... he threw a tantrum, picked up his toys, and loudly proclaimed he was going to move it. Jacksonville, apparently, being more accommodating to his ego and destructive urges. But not all of the GOP nomination functions have been cancelled, and now the essential ones are still going to be held. Guess where? When will people learn? Everything Trump touches dies. Well, more accurately everyone who gets involved with Trump comes off the worse for it. Business partners, contractors, friends, relatives, customers, staff, lawyers, political supporters, etc. They come away with their wallets emptied, their reputations in ruins, or both. His entire life has consisted of using other people and throwing them under a bus. Why not an entire city (or two) and all of the supporters who have devoted time, money, and resources toward delivering the type of epic coronation Trump had insisted on... until yesterday.

24th July 2020, 08:35 AM	#162
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,863	Originally Posted by Belz... Yeah but I saw the original tweet and it doesn't have asterisks. I never put them in.

24th July 2020, 08:36 AM	#163
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,863	Trump Tweets I spoke to highly respected (Chairman) Senator @JimInhofe, who has informed me that he WILL NOT be changing the names of our great Military Bases and Forts, places from which we won two World Wars (and more!). Like me, Jim is not a believer in “Cancel Culture”. Great job by @elonmusk in agreeing to build, in TEXAS, what is expected to be the largest auto plant anywhere in the world. He kept his word to me. Texas & @Tesla are big winners. MADE IN THE USA!

24th July 2020, 08:39 AM	#164
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,863	Why is Trump saying Elon Musk agreed’ to build in TX as if Trump made some big move that persuaded Musk to do so? Same way Trump is with the Space X program

24th July 2020, 08:47 AM	#169
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,336	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Why is Trump saying Elon Musk agreed’ to build in TX as if Trump made some big move that persuaded Musk to do so? Same way Trump is with the Space X program He has always been perfectly happy to claim credit for things he has had nothing to do with.

24th July 2020, 09:12 AM	#171
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24th July 2020, 09:23 AM	#172
Modified Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,888	Originally Posted by chrispy The new Lincoln Project ad is a winner, even for them https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/s...87854823903232 enjoy That needs to go on national TV.
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24th July 2020, 09:31 AM	#173
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,017	Originally Posted by Garrison SpaceX set up at Boca Chica because its in a state where there's plenty of potential employees with experience in spaceflight and there's plenty of room to blow stuff up. There was probably a political dimension in trying to make sure that Texas politicians had less reason to lobby in favour of some of the 'old space' firms. Trump had nothing to do with it. And a clear shot over water to the east for launches. And hey, if the rocket goes awry there's a 50-50 chance it'll land on Mexico!
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24th July 2020, 09:42 AM	#174
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24th July 2020, 09:43 AM	#175
TheSupermeerkat Muse Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 672	And the Lincoln Project does it again, https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...e-with-Maxwell Do these get shown on TV?
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24th July 2020, 09:53 AM	#176
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 86,865	Originally Posted by TofuFighter Allison Burger, Ladiz Washroom, Emplys Mustwashands It certainly seemed that he was just picking words out of the air at the time, and their relative association to one another suggests a mind not exactly trying to overreach. All the same, I'm sure I'm not alone in giving him the old golf clap for his superhuman ability to remember 5 words. trump is like the Mechanical Turk, but the guy inside died ages ago from secret government mind-rays. Not out of the air. Camera, TV, think about it. Those were things he was looking at, aka cues.

24th July 2020, 10:00 AM	#177
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 96,918	Originally Posted by The Don He has always been perfectly happy to claim credit for things he has had nothing to do with. And pass the buck for things he has had everything to do with!
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24th July 2020, 10:01 AM	#178
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,106	Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat And the Lincoln Project does it again, https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...e-with-Maxwell Do these get shown on TV? Yes they do. Not all get shown on broadcast TV/cable (some are only shown on line), but they do sometime buy air time to target their ads to select states and/or broadcasters to get the best effect. Example: Argus Leader - Ads shown in south dakota prior to Trump's event there Politico - Mentions broadcasting of ads in battleground states and on Fox News
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24th July 2020, 10:24 AM	#179
slyjoe Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Near Harmonica Virgins, AZ Posts: 2,556	The ads generally air in Arizona, but I think they are mostly targeted to Washington DC so Trump will see them.
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24th July 2020, 11:15 AM	#180
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,395	Originally Posted by chrispy The new Lincoln Project ad is a winner, even for them https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/s...87854823903232 enjoy The LP's slogan could be "when they go low, we give chase" Also, even seeing Trump talking with a cartoon child instinctively gave me the willies.
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24th July 2020, 12:49 PM	#181
Galaxie Muse Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 752	Originally Posted by quadraginta Only three? Are you trying to suggest your mom is a cheap drunk? Hey! That's my mama you're talking about! Actually, she only recently took up wine drinking and needs more practice

24th July 2020, 01:12 PM	#182
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 5,236	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Could be wrong about this, but I don't think a single senator (even the chairman of the armed forces committee) can really do much to stop the renaming at this point. Both the house and senate have passed defense spending bills that include provisions to rename bases, and the senate bill passed 86-14. He says he's going to do "something", but won't say what. Quote: Inhofe is now vowing to keep provisions to strip Confederate names from military bases out of the final National Defense Authorization Act -- although it's unclear how he could pull it off after both chambers of Congress approved similar efforts to get rid of the names with veto-proof majorities this week. Inhofe, who voted for the bill in the Senate, will be one of one of the four main negotiators in the conference committee to hammer out the final bill. "We're going to see to it that provision doesn't survive the bill," Inhofe told The Oklahoman on Friday. "I'm not going to say how at this point." Stomp his feet and hold his breath until they agree to remove the provision?

24th July 2020, 01:27 PM	#183
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,106	Originally Posted by Armitage72 Re: Trump claiming Inhofe ws going to prevent removal of confederate names from army bases... Quote: Could be wrong about this, but I don't think a single senator (even the chairman of the armed forces committee) can really do much to stop the renaming at this point. He says he's going to do "something", but won't say what. Stomp his feet and hold his breath until they agree to remove the provision? Start a snowball fight in the senate? (Inhofe was the senator who brought a snowball into congress to 'prove' global warming was a hoax.)
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24th July 2020, 01:42 PM	#184
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,106	Originally Posted by Giordano When will people learn? Everything Trump touches dies. Well, more accurately everyone who gets involved with Trump comes off the worse for it. Business partners, contractors, friends, relatives, customers, staff, lawyers, political supporters, etc. They come away with their wallets emptied, their reputations in ruins, or both. On a related note: From: Vanity Fair Guilfoyle, a former Fox News personality and girlfriend of Donald Trump Jr., formally joined the president’s re-election bid as a senior adviser in 2019 and has been serving since February as the campaign’s national finance chair...according to Politico, she’s also overseen a money-raising operation rife with chaos, cronyism, and backstabbing.... staffers have reportedly been further upset by Guilfoyle claiming credit for their work—and for apparent disregard for rank-and-file campaign workers, as evidenced by an episode earlier this month in which she and Don Jr. left junior staffers stranded in South Dakota after she tested positive for COVID-19....The couple had originally made plans to road trip back to New York from South Dakota, where the president gave a dark and divisive speech in front of Mount Rushmore, but apparently took a private flight instead, leaving several junior campaign staffers who’d been in contact with the infected Guilfoyle behind to quarantine alone in their hotel rooms, “scared they’d get sick in a city they’d never set foot in before." I don't really have any sympathy for those staffers... They knew what Trump and his clan were, with a history of turning on former supporters. They knew the risks of holding a large-scale gathering during a pandemic. But they went along. Hard to know what part of the story that I like more... - Seeing more Trump minions suffer because of their association with the Trump administration. - That Trump has someone handling campaign finances who may be almost as incompetent as he is. (I am sure they will raise plenty of money, but probably not as much as they would have had they had someone competent in charge.)
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24th July 2020, 02:20 PM	#185
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,395	The Lincoln Project just uploaded a powerful follow-up to their Maxwell ad. The implication of what she might have on Trump is indeed troubling, and they set up the accusation wonderfully. Honestly, it's little more than a conspiracy theory setup, but god, do they do a good job setting it up and delivering it. I would ask the Trump supporters what they make of all this, but it seems they haven't discovered this new thread yet. I'm sure they'll make their way over from the other threads any time, though .
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24th July 2020, 02:26 PM	#186
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a post-fact world Posts: 91,333	Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper The Lincoln Project just uploaded a powerful follow-up to their Maxwell ad. Where? I can only see their first Maxwell add from this morning on their channel.
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24th July 2020, 02:36 PM	#187
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,395	Originally Posted by Belz... Where? I can only see their first Maxwell add from this morning on their channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqnCLoI9Eio Oh. They took it down. Maybe it was accidentally uploaded too early. Either way, it consisted first of a montage of Trump verbally abusing women, mostly female reporters, and then asking the question of why Trump is suddenly so nice and respectful when talking about the leader of a sex slave ring, and then, with this two-part setup delivered, asks what Maxwell has on Trump. It's a powerful implication -- that Donald Trump, with his already established history of womanizing, sexual assault allegations, and being caught on tape bragging about forcibly kissing and groping women, is or has also been involved in organised sexual abuse of children. It reminds me of the Pizzagate debacle, only it's a heck of a lot more plausible. Heck, if Trump's ever mentioned Pizzagate, it might even have been his usual projecting.
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24th July 2020, 03:19 PM	#188
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 24,870	Originally Posted by chrispy The new Lincoln Project ad is a winner, even for them https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/s...87854823903232 enjoy The really funny/sad thing is that it's not just the same clip repeated of him saying the list, it's him repeating the list so he says it four different times during that interview. And it looks like he was struggling by the last effort.
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24th July 2020, 04:00 PM	#189
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 8,770	Originally Posted by alfaniner The really funny/sad thing is that it's not just the same clip repeated of him saying the list, it's him repeating the list so he says it four different times during that interview. And it looks like he was struggling by the last effort. Not surprising, given he usually can't remember the start of a sentence by the time he gets to the end of it.
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24th July 2020, 04:10 PM	#190
Jim_MDP Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: N.Cal/S.Or Posts: 8,011	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Not surprising, given he usually can't remember the start of a sentence by the time he gets to the end of it. Can't hold that against him... I get the same way trying to read the damn things.
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24th July 2020, 04:13 PM	#191
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA! USA! Posts: 22,786	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Not out of the air. Camera, TV, think about it. Those were things he was looking at, aka cues. At :18 seconds, he looks directly into the camera, and says "camera"

24th July 2020, 04:17 PM	#192
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,002	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Not surprising, given he usually can't remember the start of a sentence by the time he gets to the end of it.

24th July 2020, 04:19 PM	#193
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 8,770	Originally Posted by Stacyhs http://www.internationalskeptics.com...b6c18de1fb.png Most of the time he never even gets to point B ever at all.
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24th July 2020, 04:19 PM	#194
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,002	Originally Posted by carlitos At :18 seconds, he looks directly into the camera, and says "camera" Hey, at least he recognized it as a camera! I bet Chris Wallace couldn't have done that.

24th July 2020, 04:20 PM	#195
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,002	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Most of the time he never even gets to point B ever at all. Yes, he does. The end point is always about himself.