[Continuation] The Trump Presidency: Part 26 - Page 2

Mader Levap · 17th October 2020, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by RolandRat

"Trump called Joe Biden, the head of an "organized crime family" with Hunter Biden following around his famous father to "vacuum" millions of dollars to enrich the family."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...?ocid=msedgdhp

The guy has literally no shame and no sense of irony.

It is just projection, all over again.

Oh, and of course desperate flailing due to looming election where Trump is likely to lose.

DevilsAdvocate · 17th October 2020, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by Aridas

Trump has now said that he might leave the country if Biden wins.

I do wonder what Trump will do when he loses. He probably can't run out Trump TV like he planned in 2016.

I don't think he can go back to real estate deals and get the same kick.

So...what does he do? Probably "write" some books. Hit the lecture circuit. Maybe promote his kids in their endeavors.

But he may fear prosecution. Maybe from Biden. I don't think Biden will go after him. But if bad things come up he may have to. And New York may go after him.

Will Trump flee to exile in Russia for protection? Maybe.

Tero · 17th October 2020, 06:49 AM

in that same video
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656

Trump is now spreading the disinformation that there is a Biden laptop
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656

and even NBC copied the NY Post story items in such a manner that the "FBI has Hunter's computer" gets passed around. Thousands of seniors in Florida believe it now. Because they believe Biden is corrupt.

NBC story
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...reign-n1243620

Why is nobody getting the FBI to say there is no computer? All they will say is that they cannot comment on an ongoing investigation.

Wiener laptop all over again.

Tero · 17th October 2020, 06:51 AM

[quote=DevilsAdvocate;13260595][quote=Aridas;13260583]Trump has now said that he might leave the country if Biden wins.

Quote:

I do wonder what Trump will do when he loses. He probably can't run out Trump TV like he planned in 2016.

I don't think he can go back to real estate deals and get the same kick.

So...what does he do? Probably "write" some books. Hit the lecture circuit. Maybe promote his kids in their endeavors.

But he may fear prosecution. Maybe from Biden. I don't think Biden will go after him. But if bad things come up he may have to. And New York may go after him.

Will Trump flee to exile in Russia for protection? Maybe.

The Elvis thing: Las Vegas. The Trump presidential library and wax museum. Partner with Tussaud's.

DevilsAdvocate · 17th October 2020, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by Aridas

The Elvis thing: Las Vegas. The Trump presidential library and wax museum. Partner with Tussaud's.

Now I have visions of a fat Trump in a white rhinestone and sequin suit in front of a washed up jazz band playing old standards while he tries to do karate kicks and mumbles about "Best President Ever" for 90 minutes and pushing "Art of the Deal" book sales as Sammy Davis tells Frank that this is not acceptable and Penn and Teller devise plans to make him disappear.

Craig4 · 17th October 2020, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Aridas

Anyways, to poke at a couple other things, it looks like Facebook's support for Republicans has been even more ingrained than one might expect -

Also, Trump has now said that he might leave the country if Biden wins. Not that that would be an unexpected move, of course.

I suspect that the Justice Department and New York Attorney General have other plans for him. You just know the SDNY is going for an indictment come January.

jerrywayne · 17th October 2020, 07:38 AM

"When Trumpists say that "all politicians lie" and "Trump is no worse than Obama," and the news media is being "mean" and "unfair" to Donald Trump, how do you respond?"

"The New York Times tried to answer that question about Obama. Trump followers say that, "Why all the fuss about Donald Trump lying? Why don't you explain that Obama lied too?" The New York Times looked at the entire eight-year record of Obama's presidency and they found 12 false claims over eight years, none of which he repeated, all of which he then corrected when he found out that what he had said was not true. Trump can tell 12 falsehoods in 10 minutes. He does it all the time. There is no comparison between Trump and Obama. Some presidents lied a lot. Trump is in his own category. Trump lies about absolutely everything, and he gives his cabinet and his advisors permission in doing so to lie about everything as well."
https://www.alternet.org/2020/10/why...-hole-of-lies/

Captain_Swoop · 17th October 2020, 07:59 AM

Trump Tweets

The least effective of our 53 Republican Senators, and a person who truly doesn’t have what it takes to be great, is Little Ben Sasse of Nebraska, a State which I have gladly done so much to help.
@SenSasse
was as nice as a RINO can be until he recently won the Republican....

...Nomination to run for a second term. Then he went back to his rather stupid and obnoxious ways. Must feel he can’t lose to a Dem. Little Ben is a liability to the Republican Party, and an embarrassment to the Great State of Nebraska. Other than that, he’s just a wonderful guy!

alfaniner · 17th October 2020, 08:34 AM

I found it interesting that this thread does not have the "(Continuation)" blurb in front of it. Maybe because it might be the last one?

Meridian · 17th October 2020, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

"Lock them up. You should lock them up. Look up the Bidens. Lock up Hillary."

This seems a little unwise! Presumably there is a significant chance that in not too long Biden is going to be facing the decision whether to pardon Trump or not for various things. Whether or not this would change his personal preference, it certainly helps make the case for not pardoning him.

Tero · 17th October 2020, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

Now I have visions of a fat Trump in a white rhinestone and sequin suit in front of a washed up jazz band playing old standards while he tries to do karate kicks and mumbles about "Best President Ever" for 90 minutes and pushing "Art of the Deal" book sales as Sammy Davis tells Frank that this is not acceptable and Penn and Teller devise plans to make him disappear.

Pretty much. He'll have to pay a LOT to get Pen and Teller.

Skeptic Ginger · 17th October 2020, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Trump Retweeted

Rep. Matt Gaetz
@RepMattGaetz
Democrats and the media told us over and over again the Bidens were being falsely accused of improper behavior with Burisma and Ukraine.
They were wrong. There WAS corruption.
President @realDonaldTrump was right to ask about it.
The Bidens were lying.

There are some people in Congress who are so ignorant it's shocking that they managed to get elected. This guy is one of them.

Skeptic Ginger · 17th October 2020, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Tero

in that same video
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656

Trump is now spreading the disinformation that there is a Biden laptop
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656

and even NBC copied the NY Post story items in such a manner that the "FBI has Hunter's computer" gets passed around. Thousands of seniors in Florida believe it now. Because they believe Biden is corrupt.

NBC story
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...reign-n1243620

Why is nobody getting the FBI to say there is no computer? All they will say is that they cannot comment on an ongoing investigation.

Wiener laptop all over again.

No, just no. Maybe only because it involves "laptop" and "FBI". That's as far as the similarities go.

The FBI does, as a matter of principle, not say anything about this sort of thing. It was a group of Clinton haters in the NY Borough that Comey thought would leak the story and Comey's personal incompetence which led to Comey bringing out Wiener's laptop conferring the final blow upon Clinton's election.

This is a fly to be swatted off Pence's head.

Skeptic Ginger · 17th October 2020, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

I suspect that the Justice Department and New York Attorney General have other plans for him. You just know the SDNY is going for an indictment come January.

Which is one reason he might actually be considering leaving the country.

But it's also just as likely he'll stick around continuing his denial he could possibly be prosecuted.

Firestone · 17th October 2020, 09:35 AM

Stupid hill I'm ready to die on: it's Anthony Weiner, not Wiener!

Craig4 · 17th October 2020, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Which is one reason he might actually be considering leaving the country.

But it's also just as likely he'll stick around continuing his denial he could possibly be prosecuted.

I'm curious who would take him. A former president Trump is no longer useful. The kinds of people he got close to probably don't think they need the aggravation of hosting Trump when there's no upside for them.

Captain_Swoop · 17th October 2020, 09:48 AM

Trump Tweets

Senator Little Ben Sasse of the Great State of Nebraska seems to be heading down the same inglorious path as former Senators Liddle’ Bob Corker, whose approval rating in Tennessee went from 55% to 4%, & Jeff “the Flake” Flake, whose approval rating in Arizona went from 56% to....

....practically nothing. Both Senators became totally unelectable, couldn’t come even close to winning their primaries, and decided to drop out of politics and gracefully “RETIRE”. @SenSasse could be next, or perhaps the Republicans should find a new and more viable candidate?

Captain_Swoop · 17th October 2020, 09:50 AM

Why is Trump attacking his own Senators?

Craig4 · 17th October 2020, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

There are some people in Congress who are so ignorant it's shocking that they managed to get elected. This guy is one of them.

He represents one of the "Swamp People" districts in Florida.

Allen773 · 17th October 2020, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Why is Trump attacking his own Senators?

Because he's a petty wannabe dictator?

Craig4 · 17th October 2020, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Why is Trump attacking his own Senators?

Sass kind of went off on Trump in a phone call with supporters. As I'm sure was intended, a recording of the call made its way to CNN.

Darat · 17th October 2020, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy

I wonder how much of the last four years could have been prevented had people been willing to speak out against Trump while they were still in a position to do a damn thing about it.

You can't expect Trump to turn presidential overnight, but any day now he will!

The Great Zaganza · 17th October 2020, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Sass kind of went off on Trump in a phone call with supporters. As I'm sure was intended, a recording of the call made its way to CNN.

yeah, but it's still very much sawing off the branch he is sitting on for Trump.

timhau · 17th October 2020, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Firestone

Stupid hill I'm ready to die on: it's Anthony Weiner, not Wiener!

Yes, it's an imperfect world.

Darat · 17th October 2020, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Why is Trump attacking his own Senators?

The senator has probably said something ever so slightly disparaging about Trump, something like "Trump is probably one of the best Presidents the USA has ever had".

Horatius · 17th October 2020, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

yeah, but it's still very much sawing off the branch he is sitting on for Trump.

This is the moment when you really appreciate that old rule: "Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake."

Let Trump slag this guy all he wants. Every vote Sasse loses makes it that much more likely the Democrat will win. That Trump is incapable of seeing this is just icing on the cake.

ferd burfle · 17th October 2020, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

I do wonder what Trump will do when he loses. He probably can't run out Trump TV like he planned in 2016.

I don't think he can go back to real estate deals and get the same kick.

So...what does he do? Probably "write" some books. Hit the lecture circuit. Maybe promote his kids in their endeavors.

But he may fear prosecution. Maybe from Biden. I don't think Biden will go after him. But if bad things come up he may have to. And New York may go after him.

Will Trump flee to exile in Russia for protection? Maybe.

If he loses, he sure as hell won't attend the inauguration.

Safe-Keeper · 17th October 2020, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Why is Trump attacking his own Senators?

Another example of Trump seemingly trying, deliberately, to sabotage his own election campaign. It's so bizarre.

Bob001 · 17th October 2020, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Another example of Trump seemingly trying, deliberately, to sabotage his own election campaign. It's so bizarre.

I'm not so sure that he doesn't at least think he has tricks up his sleeve to guarantee a win. The whole Justice Department will serve him, and if he can get the election to be decided by the House or the Supreme Court, he wins.

Captain_Swoop · 17th October 2020, 01:01 PM

Trump Retweeted

Fox News
@FoxNews
One person on an email thread allegedly involving Hunter Biden corroborates the veracity of the messages, which appear to outline a deal involving Joe Biden and a Chinese energy firm

Captain_Swoop · 17th October 2020, 01:02 PM

Trump Retweeted
Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
·
18h
The same media that set their hair on fire every time a bogus Russia story came out is now ignoring evidence that the Biden crime family has been in bed with the Chinese Communist Party for years.

Arthur Schwartz
@ArthurSchwartz
Joe is losing his cool. Sounds like the NY Post is right over the target.
Quote Tweet

Bo Erickson CBS
@BoKnowsNews
I asked Joe Biden: What is your response to the NYPost story about your son, sir?
He called it a “smear campaign” and then went after me. “I know you’d ask it. I have no response, it’s another smear campaign, right up your alley, those are the questions you always ask.”

Captain_Swoop · 17th October 2020, 01:04 PM

Trump Tweets

Biden is a National Security threat!

100% True!
Quote Tweet

Philip Melanchthon Wegmann
@PhilipWegmann
Trump Campaign: “Joe Biden, a candidate for President of the United States, appears to be compromised by the Chinese.”

Captain_Swoop · 17th October 2020, 01:09 PM

Trump Retweeted

Eric Trump
@EricTrump
The salary of a U.S. Senator is $174,000 per year. This is Joe Biden’s house.... seems legit

(photo of house in link)https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status...613122/photo/1

Firestone · 17th October 2020, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Trump Retweeted

Eric Trump
@EricTrump
The salary of a U.S. Senator is $174,000 per year. This is Joe Biden’s house.... seems legit

(photo of house in link)https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status...613122/photo/1

They've got him!

Unless Biden releases his tax returns, he's done!

ETA: more seriously, reality check

Quote:

He bought this house in 1972, shortly after the death of his wife and daughter. It cost $185,000.

He sold it in 1996. For $1.2 million.

https://twitter.com/DelWilber/status...779379200?s=19

Snopes has a detailed article: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-mansion-tweet/

Stacyhs · 17th October 2020, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Tero

in that same video
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656

Trump is now spreading the disinformation that there is a Biden laptop
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656

and even NBC copied the NY Post story items in such a manner that the "FBI has Hunter's computer" gets passed around. Thousands of seniors in Florida believe it now. Because they believe Biden is corrupt.

NBC story
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...reign-n1243620

Why is nobody getting the FBI to say there is no computer? All they will say is that they cannot comment on an ongoing investigation.

Wiener laptop all over again.

They don't even say there is an investigation. FBI policy is to neither confirm nor deny that there is an investigation.

Stacyhs · 17th October 2020, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Meridian

This seems a little unwise! Presumably there is a significant chance that in not too long Biden is going to be facing the decision whether to pardon Trump or not for various things. Whether or not this would change his personal preference, it certainly helps make the case for not pardoning him.

I think it would be wrong to pardon Trump. His actions have been so egregious that he needs to be made an example that presidents are not above the law. Saying that, my bet is on Biden not having to make that decision. I think, if Trump loses the election and doesn't somehow manipulate the SC into declaring him the winner, he'll resign at the eleventh hour and Pence will pardon him.

Stacyhs · 17th October 2020, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

There are some people in Congress who are so ignorant it's shocking that they managed to get elected. This guy is one of them.

Agreed. Meadows and Jordan are two more I'd like to see get booted.

Stacyhs · 17th October 2020, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by ferd burfle

If he loses, he sure as hell won't attend the inauguration.

I've said this before. He is much too petty and classless. He'll use the pandemic as an excuse even though he's "immune".

Delphic Oracle · 17th October 2020, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

There are some people in Congress who are so ignorant it's shocking that they managed to get elected. This guy is one of them.

At the Iowa Senate debate the other night, Joni Ernst couldn't name the break-even price for soybeans.

She sits on the Agriculture Committee.

Her bio heavily leans on her farming roots.

Did I mention this was in Iowa?

Delphic Oracle · 17th October 2020, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I think it would be wrong to pardon Trump. His actions have been so egregious that he needs to be made an example that presidents are not above the law. Saying that, my bet is on Biden not having to make that decision. I think, if Trump loses the election and doesn't somehow manipulate the SC into declaring him the winner, he'll resign at the eleventh hour and Pence will pardon him.

Still doesn't shield him from the states.

He could spend 10 years wearing an ankle bracelet and constantly shuttling from home to a deposition, back home, change, off to a discovery hearing, stop for dinner, attend trial part 29, and finally back home.

Every day. Voice conference calls about boring legal strategy, a meeting about the implications of these 14 agencies who just filed amicus briefs.

Fun.

Also insanely expensive.

17th October 2020, 06:38 AM	#41
Mader Levap Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,576	Originally Posted by RolandRat "Trump called Joe Biden, the head of an "organized crime family" with Hunter Biden following around his famous father to "vacuum" millions of dollars to enrich the family." https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...?ocid=msedgdhp The guy has literally no shame and no sense of irony. It is just projection, all over again. Oh, and of course desperate flailing due to looming election where Trump is likely to lose.
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17th October 2020, 06:44 AM	#42
DevilsAdvocate Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,445	Originally Posted by Aridas Trump has now said that he might leave the country if Biden wins. I do wonder what Trump will do when he loses. He probably can't run out Trump TV like he planned in 2016. I don't think he can go back to real estate deals and get the same kick. So...what does he do? Probably "write" some books. Hit the lecture circuit. Maybe promote his kids in their endeavors. But he may fear prosecution. Maybe from Biden. I don't think Biden will go after him. But if bad things come up he may have to. And New York may go after him. Will Trump flee to exile in Russia for protection? Maybe.
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17th October 2020, 06:49 AM	#43
Tero Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North American prairie Posts: 2,200	in that same video https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656 Trump is now spreading the disinformation that there is a Biden laptop https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656 and even NBC copied the NY Post story items in such a manner that the "FBI has Hunter's computer" gets passed around. Thousands of seniors in Florida believe it now. Because they believe Biden is corrupt. NBC story https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...reign-n1243620 Why is nobody getting the FBI to say there is no computer? All they will say is that they cannot comment on an ongoing investigation. Wiener laptop all over again.
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17th October 2020, 06:51 AM	#44
Tero Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North American prairie Posts: 2,200	[quote=DevilsAdvocate;13260595][quote=Aridas;13260583]Trump has now said that he might leave the country if Biden wins. Quote: I do wonder what Trump will do when he loses. He probably can't run out Trump TV like he planned in 2016. I don't think he can go back to real estate deals and get the same kick. So...what does he do? Probably "write" some books. Hit the lecture circuit. Maybe promote his kids in their endeavors. But he may fear prosecution. Maybe from Biden. I don't think Biden will go after him. But if bad things come up he may have to. And New York may go after him. Will Trump flee to exile in Russia for protection? Maybe. The Elvis thing: Las Vegas. The Trump presidential library and wax museum. Partner with Tussaud's.
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17th October 2020, 07:06 AM	#45
DevilsAdvocate Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,445	Originally Posted by Aridas The Elvis thing: Las Vegas. The Trump presidential library and wax museum. Partner with Tussaud's. Now I have visions of a fat Trump in a white rhinestone and sequin suit in front of a washed up jazz band playing old standards while he tries to do karate kicks and mumbles about "Best President Ever" for 90 minutes and pushing "Art of the Deal" book sales as Sammy Davis tells Frank that this is not acceptable and Penn and Teller devise plans to make him disappear.
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17th October 2020, 07:10 AM	#46
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,550	Originally Posted by Aridas Anyways, to poke at a couple other things, it looks like Facebook's support for Republicans has been even more ingrained than one might expect - Also, Trump has now said that he might leave the country if Biden wins. Not that that would be an unexpected move, of course. I suspect that the Justice Department and New York Attorney General have other plans for him. You just know the SDNY is going for an indictment come January.

17th October 2020, 07:38 AM	#47
jerrywayne Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,083	"When Trumpists say that "all politicians lie" and "Trump is no worse than Obama," and the news media is being "mean" and "unfair" to Donald Trump, how do you respond?" "The New York Times tried to answer that question about Obama. Trump followers say that, "Why all the fuss about Donald Trump lying? Why don't you explain that Obama lied too?" The New York Times looked at the entire eight-year record of Obama's presidency and they found 12 false claims over eight years, none of which he repeated, all of which he then corrected when he found out that what he had said was not true. Trump can tell 12 falsehoods in 10 minutes. He does it all the time. There is no comparison between Trump and Obama. Some presidents lied a lot. Trump is in his own category. Trump lies about absolutely everything, and he gives his cabinet and his advisors permission in doing so to lie about everything as well." https://www.alternet.org/2020/10/why...-hole-of-lies/

17th October 2020, 07:59 AM	#48
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,845	Trump Tweets The least effective of our 53 Republican Senators, and a person who truly doesn’t have what it takes to be great, is Little Ben Sasse of Nebraska, a State which I have gladly done so much to help. @SenSasse was as nice as a RINO can be until he recently won the Republican.... ...Nomination to run for a second term. Then he went back to his rather stupid and obnoxious ways. Must feel he can’t lose to a Dem. Little Ben is a liability to the Republican Party, and an embarrassment to the Great State of Nebraska. Other than that, he’s just a wonderful guy!

17th October 2020, 08:34 AM	#49
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 24,857	I found it interesting that this thread does not have the "(Continuation)" blurb in front of it. Maybe because it might be the last one?
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17th October 2020, 08:38 AM	#50
Meridian Thinker Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 247	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop "Lock them up. You should lock them up. Look up the Bidens. Lock up Hillary." This seems a little unwise! Presumably there is a significant chance that in not too long Biden is going to be facing the decision whether to pardon Trump or not for various things. Whether or not this would change his personal preference, it certainly helps make the case for not pardoning him.
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17th October 2020, 08:49 AM	#51
Tero Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North American prairie Posts: 2,200	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate Now I have visions of a fat Trump in a white rhinestone and sequin suit in front of a washed up jazz band playing old standards while he tries to do karate kicks and mumbles about "Best President Ever" for 90 minutes and pushing "Art of the Deal" book sales as Sammy Davis tells Frank that this is not acceptable and Penn and Teller devise plans to make him disappear. Pretty much. He'll have to pay a LOT to get Pen and Teller.
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17th October 2020, 08:50 AM	#52
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 86,833	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Trump Retweeted Rep. Matt Gaetz @RepMattGaetz Democrats and the media told us over and over again the Bidens were being falsely accused of improper behavior with Burisma and Ukraine. They were wrong. There WAS corruption. President @realDonaldTrump was right to ask about it. The Bidens were lying. There are some people in Congress who are so ignorant it's shocking that they managed to get elected. This guy is one of them.

17th October 2020, 09:04 AM	#53
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 86,833	Originally Posted by Tero in that same video https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656 Trump is now spreading the disinformation that there is a Biden laptop https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656 and even NBC copied the NY Post story items in such a manner that the "FBI has Hunter's computer" gets passed around. Thousands of seniors in Florida believe it now. Because they believe Biden is corrupt. NBC story https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...reign-n1243620 Why is nobody getting the FBI to say there is no computer? All they will say is that they cannot comment on an ongoing investigation. Wiener laptop all over again. No, just no. Maybe only because it involves "laptop" and "FBI". That's as far as the similarities go. The FBI does, as a matter of principle, not say anything about this sort of thing. It was a group of Clinton haters in the NY Borough that Comey thought would leak the story and Comey's personal incompetence which led to Comey bringing out Wiener's laptop conferring the final blow upon Clinton's election. This is a fly to be swatted off Pence's head.

17th October 2020, 09:07 AM	#54
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 86,833	Originally Posted by Craig4 I suspect that the Justice Department and New York Attorney General have other plans for him. You just know the SDNY is going for an indictment come January. Which is one reason he might actually be considering leaving the country. But it's also just as likely he'll stick around continuing his denial he could possibly be prosecuted.

17th October 2020, 09:35 AM	#55
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,987	Stupid hill I'm ready to die on: it's Anthony Weiner, not Wiener!
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17th October 2020, 09:47 AM	#56
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,550	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Which is one reason he might actually be considering leaving the country. But it's also just as likely he'll stick around continuing his denial he could possibly be prosecuted. I'm curious who would take him. A former president Trump is no longer useful. The kinds of people he got close to probably don't think they need the aggravation of hosting Trump when there's no upside for them.

17th October 2020, 09:48 AM	#57
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,845	Trump Tweets Senator Little Ben Sasse of the Great State of Nebraska seems to be heading down the same inglorious path as former Senators Liddle’ Bob Corker, whose approval rating in Tennessee went from 55% to 4%, & Jeff “the Flake” Flake, whose approval rating in Arizona went from 56% to.... ....practically nothing. Both Senators became totally unelectable, couldn’t come even close to winning their primaries, and decided to drop out of politics and gracefully “RETIRE”. @SenSasse could be next, or perhaps the Republicans should find a new and more viable candidate?

17th October 2020, 09:50 AM	#58
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,845	Why is Trump attacking his own Senators?

17th October 2020, 09:53 AM	#59
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,550	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger There are some people in Congress who are so ignorant it's shocking that they managed to get elected. This guy is one of them. He represents one of the "Swamp People" districts in Florida.

17th October 2020, 09:53 AM	#60
Allen773 Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cali Four Neea Posts: 1,353	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Why is Trump attacking his own Senators? Because he's a petty wannabe dictator?

17th October 2020, 09:55 AM	#61
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,550	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Why is Trump attacking his own Senators? Sass kind of went off on Trump in a phone call with supporters. As I'm sure was intended, a recording of the call made its way to CNN.

17th October 2020, 10:10 AM	#62
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 96,885	Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy I wonder how much of the last four years could have been prevented had people been willing to speak out against Trump while they were still in a position to do a damn thing about it. You can't expect Trump to turn presidential overnight, but any day now he will!
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17th October 2020, 10:15 AM	#63
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,627	Originally Posted by Craig4 Sass kind of went off on Trump in a phone call with supporters. As I'm sure was intended, a recording of the call made its way to CNN. yeah, but it's still very much sawing off the branch he is sitting on for Trump.
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17th October 2020, 10:15 AM	#64
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 14,462	Originally Posted by Firestone Stupid hill I'm ready to die on: it's Anthony Weiner, not Wiener! Yes, it's an imperfect world.
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17th October 2020, 10:24 AM	#65
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 96,885	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Why is Trump attacking his own Senators? The senator has probably said something ever so slightly disparaging about Trump, something like "Trump is probably one of the best Presidents the USA has ever had".
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17th October 2020, 10:32 AM	#66
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,009	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza yeah, but it's still very much sawing off the branch he is sitting on for Trump. This is the moment when you really appreciate that old rule: "Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake." Let Trump slag this guy all he wants. Every vote Sasse loses makes it that much more likely the Democrat will win. That Trump is incapable of seeing this is just icing on the cake.
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17th October 2020, 11:58 AM	#67
ferd burfle Graduate Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Just short of Zeta II Reticuli Posts: 1,496	Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate I do wonder what Trump will do when he loses. He probably can't run out Trump TV like he planned in 2016. I don't think he can go back to real estate deals and get the same kick. So...what does he do? Probably "write" some books. Hit the lecture circuit. Maybe promote his kids in their endeavors. But he may fear prosecution. Maybe from Biden. I don't think Biden will go after him. But if bad things come up he may have to. And New York may go after him. Will Trump flee to exile in Russia for protection? Maybe. If he loses, he sure as hell won't attend the inauguration.
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17th October 2020, 12:00 PM	#68
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,389	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Why is Trump attacking his own Senators? Another example of Trump seemingly trying, deliberately, to sabotage his own election campaign. It's so bizarre.
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17th October 2020, 12:03 PM	#69
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,615	Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper Another example of Trump seemingly trying, deliberately, to sabotage his own election campaign. It's so bizarre. I'm not so sure that he doesn't at least think he has tricks up his sleeve to guarantee a win. The whole Justice Department will serve him, and if he can get the election to be decided by the House or the Supreme Court, he wins.

17th October 2020, 01:01 PM	#70
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,845	Trump Retweeted Fox News @FoxNews One person on an email thread allegedly involving Hunter Biden corroborates the veracity of the messages, which appear to outline a deal involving Joe Biden and a Chinese energy firm

17th October 2020, 01:02 PM	#71
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,845	Trump Retweeted Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr · 18h The same media that set their hair on fire every time a bogus Russia story came out is now ignoring evidence that the Biden crime family has been in bed with the Chinese Communist Party for years. Arthur Schwartz @ArthurSchwartz Joe is losing his cool. Sounds like the NY Post is right over the target. Quote Tweet Bo Erickson CBS @BoKnowsNews I asked Joe Biden: What is your response to the NYPost story about your son, sir? He called it a “smear campaign” and then went after me. “I know you’d ask it. I have no response, it’s another smear campaign, right up your alley, those are the questions you always ask.”

17th October 2020, 01:04 PM	#72
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,845	Trump Tweets Biden is a National Security threat! 100% True! Quote Tweet Philip Melanchthon Wegmann @PhilipWegmann Trump Campaign: “Joe Biden, a candidate for President of the United States, appears to be compromised by the Chinese.”

17th October 2020, 01:09 PM	#73
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,845	Trump Retweeted Eric Trump @EricTrump The salary of a U.S. Senator is $174,000 per year. This is Joe Biden’s house.... seems legit (photo of house in link)https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status...613122/photo/1

17th October 2020, 01:20 PM	#74
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,987	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Trump Retweeted Eric Trump @EricTrump The salary of a U.S. Senator is $174,000 per year. This is Joe Biden’s house.... seems legit (photo of house in link)https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status...613122/photo/1 They've got him! Unless Biden releases his tax returns, he's done! ETA: more seriously, reality check Quote: He bought this house in 1972, shortly after the death of his wife and daughter. It cost $185,000. He sold it in 1996. For $1.2 million. https://twitter.com/DelWilber/status...779379200?s=19 Snopes has a detailed article: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-mansion-tweet/
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17th October 2020, 01:57 PM	#75
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,987	Originally Posted by Tero in that same video https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656 Trump is now spreading the disinformation that there is a Biden laptop https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1317264060300230656 and even NBC copied the NY Post story items in such a manner that the "FBI has Hunter's computer" gets passed around. Thousands of seniors in Florida believe it now. Because they believe Biden is corrupt. NBC story https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...reign-n1243620 Why is nobody getting the FBI to say there is no computer? All they will say is that they cannot comment on an ongoing investigation. Wiener laptop all over again. They don't even say there is an investigation. FBI policy is to neither confirm nor deny that there is an investigation.