Harris as President

Hans · 8th November 2020, 03:19 PM

When do you think Harris will become President?

This is not to wish the President-Elect any ill luck but given his age something to consider. Also a few of how forum members view Harris as a possible Presidential candiate.

dirtywick · 8th November 2020, 03:30 PM

I’m not aware that Biden has any health issues

Venom · 8th November 2020, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by dirtywick

I’m not aware that Biden has any health issues

I don't think Biden can or will run for reelection.

I think he has mentally declined significantly.

crescent · 8th November 2020, 03:43 PM

It's taken as gospel by many conservatives that Biden won't finish his first term, with various options like those presented here. I mean, I see that a lot. ETA: I mean, what I see is that many conservatives express belief that the true intent of the Biden campaign is for Biden to resign early, just a cover for getting Harris into the White House, with various CTs about her VP (including Hillary, of course). The Biden campaign is popularly though by many conservatives to just be a cover for getting Hillary Clinton, or Nancy Pelosi, or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Liberal Bogeywoman of the moment into the White House. Ain't gonna happen.

Interesting that the Harris running for President after the end of the second Biden term is not presented.

It's also taken for granted by many conservatives that Biden has stated he'll only serve one term.

They are wrong about that, he never said that, never made such a commitment.

My guess is that Harris will run for President in 2028, after Biden's second term.

angrysoba · 8th November 2020, 03:48 PM

It's strange that the poll does not even have an option for her being elected in 2028. I know Biden is old, but even then is it really unthinkable that he can serve two terms?

BobTheCoward · 8th November 2020, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

It's strange that the poll does not even have an option for her being elected in 2028. I know Biden is old, but even then is it really unthinkable that he can serve two terms?

I want to see the take over at 2 years +1 day and see two more wins and the 10 year administration.

Mader Levap · 8th November 2020, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by crescent

My guess is that Harris will run for President in 2028, after Biden's second term.

Originally Posted by angrysoba

It's strange that the poll does not even have an option for her being elected in 2028. I know Biden is old, but even then is it really unthinkable that he can serve two terms?

That depends on Biden's health. Considering mess that he will inherit from el Orango and how POTUSes change during presidency, I seriously doubt he will be able to continue for another 4 years.

Though I agree that option should be in poll.

acbytesla · 8th November 2020, 04:00 PM

I refuse to participate in this poll. Too much of a "dead pool".

TragicMonkey · 8th November 2020, 04:01 PM

Biden's not that old, he's only what, 97? 98? If he'd had any serious health issues they'd have taken him out long before now.

alfaniner · 8th November 2020, 04:15 PM

By the time the next Election comes around (please, let's not have to think about that already!!!) he will be 82 years old. That's... old for doing almost any kind of job. I'm decades younger than that and there's no way I'd want to work that hard any more. Here's hoping he's at peak capacity for at least the first couple years. At that time, I wouldn't mind his passing the torch to VP Harris.

Venom · 8th November 2020, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Biden's not that old, he's only what, 97? 98? If he'd had any serious health issues they'd have taken him out long before now.

Biden's a little older than my aunt but I never brace for a verbal slipup when I hear her speak like I'm finding myself doing for Biden.

"poor (Proud) boys" " millions, uh, thousands of deaths from COVID-19"

Beelzebuddy · 8th November 2020, 06:04 PM

I can't even order a hamburger without screwing it up at least once, and I never had a stutter to overcome.

Cain · 8th November 2020, 06:29 PM

The problem with this poll is that it's conjoining separate propositions. The most likely outcome, in my view, is that Biden serves the four year term.

Harris winning the Democratic Party's nomination and/or the presidency is beside the point.

The Great Zaganza · 8th November 2020, 11:54 PM

I, too, voted for 2024 nomination.

with this election done, it is high time to talk about 2024!

The lineup seems clear:

Niki Haley vs. Kamela Harris.

Two female Candidates!
A tremendous step in Gender Equality!

A chance to have a substantial debate without the need for the dick-measuring so common in male-dominated politics.

so obviously what we'll need is a big bikini-mud-wrestling pit.

angrysoba · 9th November 2020, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Two female Candidates!
A tremendous step in Gender Equality!

A chance to have a substantial debate without the need for the dick-measuring so common in male-dominated politics.

I dunno. We had a certain PM called Margeret Thatcher who won all the dick-measuring contests in the 1980s.

Stacyhs · 9th November 2020, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

I refuse to participate in this poll. Too much of a "dead pool".

I'm with you on this one. Jesus H. Christ Almighty. The man's literally just been elected.

The Atheist · 9th November 2020, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

I, too, voted for 2024 nomination.

Same - I was a little surprised to see it the majority of votes.

with this election done, it is high time to talk about 2024!

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Niki Haley vs. Kamela Harris.

Haley's the strong second favourite right now for the Republican nomination in 2024. Trump still favourite.

https://sports.ladbrokes.com/event/p...70/all-markets

The Don · 9th November 2020, 01:57 AM

I fear that Joe Biden will be a one-term President and that GOP obstruction in the Senate and an increasingly partisan SCOTUS will mean that he won't be able to get very much done - and that which he does get done is by Executive Order and therefore subject to GOP allegations of Executive Overreach.

By 2024, the GOP will have found a new ideologue who will fire up the base whereas a lot of Democratic Party voters will be disillusioned by Biden's inability to get anything done. Sadly, Kamala Harris will be beaten in the 2024 election and will never serve as President.

The next Democratic party President will be elected in 2032 at the earliest

angrysoba · 9th November 2020, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

I fear that Joe Biden will be a one-term President and that GOP obstruction in the Senate and an increasingly partisan SCOTUS will mean that he won't be able to get very much done - and that which he does get done is by Executive Order and therefore subject to GOP allegations of Executive Overreach.

By 2024, the GOP will have found a new ideologue who will fire up the base whereas a lot of Democratic Party voters will be disillusioned by Biden's inability to get anything done. Sadly, Kamala Harris will be beaten in the 2024 election and will never serve as President.

The next Democratic party President will be elected in 2032 at the earliest

Are you kidding? Donald Trump will win the 2020 election. There will be a coup and Godzilla will rise from the sea to smite the liberals to smithereens.

Ambrosia · 9th November 2020, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

I fear that Joe Biden will be a one-term President and [...]

Do you have "glass is half full" moments at all anymore?

The Don · 9th November 2020, 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by Ambrosia

Do you have "glass is half full" moments at all anymore?

Yes, but not with respect to politics.

In the case of Joe Biden, it seems to me to be reasonable that he won't stand for re-election at the age of 82 and the Democratic Party will choose a different candidate instead. Joe Biden's major draw this time around was that he wasn't President Trump. In 2024 he'll have 4 years record of his own presidency to promote/defend (delete as necessary). I don't think a bland 82 year-old is the right candidate to excite Democratic Party supporters to get out and vote.

Do you think that Joe Biden will stand for re-election in 2024 ?

Do you think that would be a good idea ?

erlando · 9th November 2020, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Venom

Biden's a little older than my aunt but I never brace for a verbal slipup when I hear her speak like I'm finding myself doing for Biden.

"poor (Proud) boys" " millions, uh, thousands of deaths from COVID-19"

The last four years with Trump must have had you bracing for your life every second he spoke...

angrysoba · 9th November 2020, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Yes, but not with respect to politics.

In the case of Joe Biden, it seems to me to be reasonable that he won't stand for re-election at the age of 82 and the Democratic Party will choose a different candidate instead. Joe Biden's major draw this time around was that he wasn't President Trump. In 2024 he'll have 4 years record of his own presidency to promote/defend (delete as necessary). I don't think a bland 82 year-old is the right candidate to excite Democratic Party supporters to get out and vote.

Do you think that Joe Biden will stand for re-election in 2024 ?

Do you think that would be a good idea ?

I guess it depends on how his presidency goes. There are a few known knowns, some known unknowns and some unknown unknows to deal with. His presideny hasn't even started so at least give him a chance before we go all Hari Seldon.

timhau · 9th November 2020, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Do you think that Joe Biden will stand for re-election in 2024 ?

Do you think that would be a good idea ?

No and no. But him standing for election in 2020 turned out to be a pretty good idea.

The Don · 9th November 2020, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

No and no. But him standing for election in 2020 turned out to be a pretty good idea.

Exactly !

That's why I think Joe Biden will be a one term president.

Venom · 9th November 2020, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by erlando

The last four years with Trump must have had you bracing for your life every second he spoke...

Not for a person with a complete lack of standards, no.

I wanted Biden to look good. I wince when he makes these mistakes.

CORed · 11th November 2020, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

I, too, voted for 2024 nomination.

with this election done, it is high time to talk about 2024!

The lineup seems clear:

Niki Haley vs. Kamela Harris.

Two female Candidates!
A tremendous step in Gender Equality!

A chance to have a substantial debate without the need for the dick-measuring so common in male-dominated politics.

so obviously what we'll need is a big bikini-mud-wrestling pit.

I don't know about the bikini mud wrestling pit. I suspect that both of them are at an age where they look much better fully clothed.

Within three months	0	0%
Within six months	1	3.33%
Within a year	3	10.00%
Within three years	3	10.00%
Never, she will not be nominated for President in 2024	3	10.00%
She will be nominated for President in 2024	19	63.33%
On Planet X they will decided to invade before 2024	1	3.33%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

8th November 2020, 03:19 PM	#1
Hans Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8,461	Harris as President When do you think Harris will become President? This is not to wish the President-Elect any ill luck but given his age something to consider. Also a few of how forum members view Harris as a possible Presidential candiate.
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8th November 2020, 03:30 PM	#2
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,130	I’m not aware that Biden has any health issues
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8th November 2020, 03:43 PM	#4
crescent Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,986	It's taken as gospel by many conservatives that Biden won't finish his first term, with various options like those presented here. I mean, I see that a lot. ETA: I mean, what I see is that many conservatives express belief that the true intent of the Biden campaign is for Biden to resign early, just a cover for getting Harris into the White House, with various CTs about her VP (including Hillary, of course). The Biden campaign is popularly though by many conservatives to just be a cover for getting Hillary Clinton, or Nancy Pelosi, or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Liberal Bogeywoman of the moment into the White House. Ain't gonna happen. Interesting that the Harris running for President after the end of the second Biden term is not presented. It's also taken for granted by many conservatives that Biden has stated he'll only serve one term. They are wrong about that, he never said that, never made such a commitment. My guess is that Harris will run for President in 2028, after Biden's second term.
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8th November 2020, 03:48 PM	#5
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 29,395	It's strange that the poll does not even have an option for her being elected in 2028. I know Biden is old, but even then is it really unthinkable that he can serve two terms?
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8th November 2020, 03:36 PM	#3
Venom Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,901	Originally Posted by dirtywick I’m not aware that Biden has any health issues I don't think Biden can or will run for reelection. I think he has mentally declined significantly.

8th November 2020, 03:49 PM	#6
BobTheCoward Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 20,249	Originally Posted by angrysoba It's strange that the poll does not even have an option for her being elected in 2028. I know Biden is old, but even then is it really unthinkable that he can serve two terms? I want to see the take over at 2 years +1 day and see two more wins and the 10 year administration.

8th November 2020, 03:49 PM	#7
Mader Levap Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,576	Originally Posted by crescent My guess is that Harris will run for President in 2028, after Biden's second term. Originally Posted by angrysoba It's strange that the poll does not even have an option for her being elected in 2028. I know Biden is old, but even then is it really unthinkable that he can serve two terms? That depends on Biden's health. Considering mess that he will inherit from el Orango and how POTUSes change during presidency, I seriously doubt he will be able to continue for another 4 years. Though I agree that option should be in poll.
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8th November 2020, 04:00 PM	#8
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 28,300	I refuse to participate in this poll. Too much of a "dead pool".
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8th November 2020, 04:01 PM	#9
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 59,509	Biden's not that old, he's only what, 97? 98? If he'd had any serious health issues they'd have taken him out long before now.
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8th November 2020, 04:15 PM	#10
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 24,891	By the time the next Election comes around (please, let's not have to think about that already!!!) he will be 82 years old. That's... old for doing almost any kind of job. I'm decades younger than that and there's no way I'd want to work that hard any more. Here's hoping he's at peak capacity for at least the first couple years. At that time, I wouldn't mind his passing the torch to VP Harris.
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8th November 2020, 05:28 PM	#11
Venom Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,901	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Biden's not that old, he's only what, 97? 98? If he'd had any serious health issues they'd have taken him out long before now. Biden's a little older than my aunt but I never brace for a verbal slipup when I hear her speak like I'm finding myself doing for Biden. "poor (Proud) boys" " millions, uh, thousands of deaths from COVID-19"

8th November 2020, 06:04 PM	#12
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8th November 2020, 06:29 PM	#13
Cain Straussian Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,278	The problem with this poll is that it's conjoining separate propositions. The most likely outcome, in my view, is that Biden serves the four year term. Harris winning the Democratic Party's nomination and/or the presidency is beside the point.
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8th November 2020, 11:54 PM	#14
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,680	I, too, voted for 2024 nomination. with this election done, it is high time to talk about 2024! The lineup seems clear: Niki Haley vs. Kamela Harris. Two female Candidates! A tremendous step in Gender Equality! A chance to have a substantial debate without the need for the dick-measuring so common in male-dominated politics. so obviously what we'll need is a big bikini-mud-wrestling pit.
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9th November 2020, 12:19 AM	#15
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 29,395	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Two female Candidates! A tremendous step in Gender Equality! A chance to have a substantial debate without the need for the dick-measuring so common in male-dominated politics. I dunno. We had a certain PM called Margeret Thatcher who won all the dick-measuring contests in the 1980s.
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9th November 2020, 12:38 AM	#16
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,015	Originally Posted by acbytesla I refuse to participate in this poll. Too much of a "dead pool". I'm with you on this one. Jesus H. Christ Almighty. The man's literally just been elected.

9th November 2020, 01:27 AM	#17
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 28,324	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza I, too, voted for 2024 nomination. Same - I was a little surprised to see it the majority of votes. with this election done, it is high time to talk about 2024! Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Niki Haley vs. Kamela Harris. Haley's the strong second favourite right now for the Republican nomination in 2024. Trump still favourite. https://sports.ladbrokes.com/event/p...70/all-markets
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9th November 2020, 01:57 AM	#18
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,361	I fear that Joe Biden will be a one-term President and that GOP obstruction in the Senate and an increasingly partisan SCOTUS will mean that he won't be able to get very much done - and that which he does get done is by Executive Order and therefore subject to GOP allegations of Executive Overreach. By 2024, the GOP will have found a new ideologue who will fire up the base whereas a lot of Democratic Party voters will be disillusioned by Biden's inability to get anything done. Sadly, Kamala Harris will be beaten in the 2024 election and will never serve as President. The next Democratic party President will be elected in 2032 at the earliest

9th November 2020, 02:01 AM	#19
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 29,395	Originally Posted by The Don I fear that Joe Biden will be a one-term President and that GOP obstruction in the Senate and an increasingly partisan SCOTUS will mean that he won't be able to get very much done - and that which he does get done is by Executive Order and therefore subject to GOP allegations of Executive Overreach. By 2024, the GOP will have found a new ideologue who will fire up the base whereas a lot of Democratic Party voters will be disillusioned by Biden's inability to get anything done. Sadly, Kamala Harris will be beaten in the 2024 election and will never serve as President. The next Democratic party President will be elected in 2032 at the earliest Are you kidding? Donald Trump will win the 2020 election. There will be a coup and Godzilla will rise from the sea to smite the liberals to smithereens.
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9th November 2020, 02:06 AM	#20
Ambrosia Good of the Fods Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,675	Originally Posted by The Don I fear that Joe Biden will be a one-term President and [...] Do you have "glass is half full" moments at all anymore?

9th November 2020, 02:14 AM	#21
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,361	Originally Posted by Ambrosia Do you have "glass is half full" moments at all anymore? Yes, but not with respect to politics. In the case of Joe Biden, it seems to me to be reasonable that he won't stand for re-election at the age of 82 and the Democratic Party will choose a different candidate instead. Joe Biden's major draw this time around was that he wasn't President Trump. In 2024 he'll have 4 years record of his own presidency to promote/defend (delete as necessary). I don't think a bland 82 year-old is the right candidate to excite Democratic Party supporters to get out and vote. Do you think that Joe Biden will stand for re-election in 2024 ? Do you think that would be a good idea ?

9th November 2020, 02:17 AM	#22
erlando Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,873	Originally Posted by Venom Biden's a little older than my aunt but I never brace for a verbal slipup when I hear her speak like I'm finding myself doing for Biden. "poor (Proud) boys" " millions, uh, thousands of deaths from COVID-19" The last four years with Trump must have had you bracing for your life every second he spoke...
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9th November 2020, 02:19 AM	#23
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 29,395	Originally Posted by The Don Yes, but not with respect to politics. In the case of Joe Biden, it seems to me to be reasonable that he won't stand for re-election at the age of 82 and the Democratic Party will choose a different candidate instead. Joe Biden's major draw this time around was that he wasn't President Trump. In 2024 he'll have 4 years record of his own presidency to promote/defend (delete as necessary). I don't think a bland 82 year-old is the right candidate to excite Democratic Party supporters to get out and vote. Do you think that Joe Biden will stand for re-election in 2024 ? Do you think that would be a good idea ? I guess it depends on how his presidency goes. There are a few known knowns, some known unknowns and some unknown unknows to deal with. His presideny hasn't even started so at least give him a chance before we go all Hari Seldon.
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9th November 2020, 05:24 AM	#24
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 14,474	Originally Posted by The Don Do you think that Joe Biden will stand for re-election in 2024 ? Do you think that would be a good idea ? No and no. But him standing for election in 2020 turned out to be a pretty good idea.
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9th November 2020, 05:56 AM	#25
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,361	Originally Posted by timhau No and no. But him standing for election in 2020 turned out to be a pretty good idea. Exactly ! That's why I think Joe Biden will be a one term president.

9th November 2020, 11:24 AM	#26
Venom Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,901	Originally Posted by erlando The last four years with Trump must have had you bracing for your life every second he spoke... Not for a person with a complete lack of standards, no. I wanted Biden to look good. I wince when he makes these mistakes.

11th November 2020, 08:39 AM	#27
CORed Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central City, Colorado, USA Posts: 10,096	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza I, too, voted for 2024 nomination. with this election done, it is high time to talk about 2024! The lineup seems clear: Niki Haley vs. Kamela Harris. Two female Candidates! A tremendous step in Gender Equality! A chance to have a substantial debate without the need for the dick-measuring so common in male-dominated politics. so obviously what we'll need is a big bikini-mud-wrestling pit. I don't know about the bikini mud wrestling pit. I suspect that both of them are at an age where they look much better fully clothed.