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Old 12th July 2018, 02:51 AM   #1
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Black man asked to leave his own pool by manager and officer

Another one

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A black man who was confronted and asked to leave the pool at the apartment building where he lives in a viral video says he was the victim of racial profiling.

Indiana resident Shayne Holland used his cell phone to record a confrontation between himself and an security guard who was an off-duty Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department officer last Friday.
Not just a security guard, the building manager as well.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...in-viral-video

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Old 12th July 2018, 02:56 AM   #2
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Just because it happened 3 days in a row doesn't mean anyone involved was racist, they just didn't want blacks in the pool.
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Old 12th July 2018, 03:15 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Another one
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A black man who was confronted and asked to leave the pool at the apartment building where he lives in a viral video says he was the victim of racial profiling.

Indiana resident Shayne Holland used his cell phone to record a confrontation between himself and an security guard who was an off-duty Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department officer last Friday.
Not just a security guard, the building manager as well.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...in-viral-video

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https://twitter.com/TalbertSwan/stat...99296276516865
I wonder if this will have an effect on the officer's "day job"?
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Old 12th July 2018, 03:28 AM   #4
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Given all the issues with pools killing people and causing societal upset isn't it about time the USA looked at banning all swimming pools?
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Old 12th July 2018, 08:12 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Given all the issues with pools killing people and causing societal upset isn't it about time the USA looked at banning all swimming pools?
*NRA shuffles feet nervously*
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Old 12th July 2018, 09:27 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Information Analyst View Post
I wonder if this will have an effect on the officer's "day job"?
If he's a racist in his moonlighting job, he can be expected to be in his similar day job. So the Indianapolis PD has two options:
1) fire the racist pig
2) not fire him and give off the signal "racists welcome on the job"
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Old 12th July 2018, 10:11 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by ddt View Post
If he's a racist in his moonlighting job, he can be expected to be in his similar day job. So the Indianapolis PD has two options:
1) fire the racist pig
2) not fire him and give off the signal "racists welcome on the job"
Nitpick: Officer was female.
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Old 12th July 2018, 10:49 AM   #8
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How is this apartment management this incompetent? Surely there's some way to inquire whether someone at the pool is a resident without it getting to this level of petty confrontation. Seems like someone who's entire job is managing people would have better interpersonal skills.

I'm not sure what their goal is in this video, since it's obvious that pretty quickly everyone realizes this guy is a resident and allowed to be there. At what point does it become obvious that you could just say "sorry to bother you, didn't recognize you as one of our residents. Have a nice day!" and let this petty nonsense stop? But they just keep escalating this pointless crap.
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Old 12th July 2018, 11:10 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Given all the issues with pools killing people and causing societal upset isn't it about time the USA looked at banning all swimming pools?
If the racists were thinking straight, you'd think they'd tell the black folks to dive right in and don't forget to bring the kiddies.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
How is this apartment management this incompetent? Surely there's some way to inquire whether someone at the pool is a resident without it getting to this level of petty confrontation. Seems like someone who's entire job is managing people would have better interpersonal skills.
If you have people management skills, you can get a far better job than apartment manager.
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Originally Posted by gerdbonk View Post
If you have people management skills, you can get a far better job than apartment manager.
I've lived in a few large apartment complexes and the management always seem like a pretty professional bunch. Not exactly rich, but not working poor either. It's a 9-5 job working inside an office for large property management companies, so a pretty comfy job with decent pay and benefits.

They were also able to deal with way worse problems (property damage, evictions, noise complaints, late rent, etc) with way more tact than the knucklehead in the video. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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She's a hero I tell you, a hero! She tried to save that man from a dangerous swimming pool.

But seriously, "The officer then contacted the complex’s property manager to confirm Holland was a resident, which the manager did confirm."

It should have ended right there.
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Speaking as an adult white male, how does this **** happen? I really don't understand this stupid ****.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
How is this apartment management this incompetent? Surely there's some way to inquire whether someone at the pool is a resident without it getting to this level of petty confrontation. Seems like someone who's entire job is managing people would have better interpersonal skills.

I'm not sure what their goal is in this video, since it's obvious that pretty quickly everyone realizes this guy is a resident and allowed to be there. At what point does it become obvious that you could just say "sorry to bother you, didn't recognize you as one of our residents. Have a nice day!" and let this petty nonsense stop? But they just keep escalating this pointless crap.
The apartment manager even tells him his mothers lost purse is in the office. She actually knows him!
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Nitpick: Officer was female.
OK, I'm confused now. In the video, I saw two people, one of them looking male and having a badge, whom I assumed to be the security offier, and the other one a blonde female, whom I assumed to be the manager. The text in The Hill article seems to refer to the security officer as female.
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She's a hero I tell you, a hero! She tried to save that man from a dangerous swimming pool.
No, she was trying to save the water from turning black. You mean it doesn't come off? Who knew!
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OK, I'm confused now. In the video, I saw two people, one of them looking male and having a badge, whom I assumed to be the security offier, and the other one a blonde female, whom I assumed to be the manager. The text in The Hill article seems to refer to the security officer as female.
If you open the first video linked to in the hill, you can scroll down to a second video. In that second video the security officer has moved and one can see that she is a woman with her hair pulled back, although it is not obvious in the first video.
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Did you seriously just assume her gender?

Shocked!!!

Oh crap I said "her"

I await my banning
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What is it with these people with black people and swimming pools?

Do they think "the black" it is going to stain them?

Prejudice and dumb go together like ............................. Two things that always go together which I can't think of at the moment........................salt and pepper
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What is it with these people with black people and swimming pools?

Do they think "the black" it is going to stain them?

Prejudice and dumb go together like .............................

Trump and the GOP?
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Did you seriously just assume her gender?

Shocked!!!

Oh crap I said "her"

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What is it with these people with black people and swimming pools?
Do they think "the black" it is going to stain them?
"Your honor, It wasn't racist at all. I was very suspicious he had jumped the gate. "
Judge: Did you see him jump the gate?
"No your honor. I figured he must have because I don't give pool keys to the blacks."

I don't imagine she has a good defense.
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If you open the first video linked to in the hill, you can scroll down to a second video. In that second video the security officer has moved and one can see that she is a woman with her hair pulled back, although it is not obvious in the first video.
Thank you. My apologies that I misgendered her. (not really). At least "pig" is gender-neutral, so I didn't misgender her when I called her a "racist pig".
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Speaking as an adult white male, how does this **** happen? I really don't understand this stupid ****.
Speaking as an adult white male it is because you’re an adult white male that you don’t understand this stupidity.

We are rarely the target of it.
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Originally Posted by EHocking View Post
Speaking as an adult white male it is because you’re an adult white male that you don’t understand this stupidity.

We are rarely the target of it.

From what I can get from this video, the adult black male in question doesn't understand this stupidity either.
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If he's a racist in his moonlighting job, he can be expected to be in his similar day job. So the Indianapolis PD has two options:
1) fire the racist pig
2) not fire him and give off the signal "racists welcome on the job"

2b) Not fire her, and wait for the lawsuit when she pulls an egregious enough stunt while on duty.
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If he's a racist in his moonlighting job, he can be expected to be in his similar day job. So the Indianapolis PD has two options:
1) fire the racist pig
2) not fire him and give off the signal "racists welcome on the job"
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2b) Not fire her, and wait for the lawsuit when she pulls an egregious enough stunt while on duty.
2c) not fire her, and wait for a lawsuit involving an incident with another cop that might be or might not be racist, and the claimant's lawyer pull the card "but the IPD keeps racists on the force".
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From what I can get from this video, the adult black male in question doesn't understand this stupidity either.
I reckon he understood it quite well.
His frustration was with trying to explain the other parties’ lack of understanding of their own stupidity.
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