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Old 26th July 2018, 10:43 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by rlopez2 View Post
RE: Only gringos say "gringos."

says some gringo
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Old 27th July 2018, 02:49 AM   #42
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RE: only gringos say "gringos"
RE: says some gringo
RE: You can tell that from a username?

from a username? on the Internet? I can't make sense of whatever you may mean, but why exactly can't anyone call gringos "gringos", if like 85% of their "freedom of the press" mainstream media is about making fun of other "unAmerican" people in not so subtle ways from the higher grounds from which they see everyone/everything? (from the same higher grounds from which they get their own ideations about other people not being allowed to say "gringos")

Why is it exactly gringos can call everyone whatever they feel like even openly in talk shows (lists which I can't even enumerate by heart, nor do I care). German people are called "Wurstfressers" (which has a stronger connotation to being like "dogs") in Europe and they don't care. To me those Chinese who apparently believe it is OK to mess with Nature, that capitalism will fix that later ..., are also "gringos".

I think you are making yourself my point and you are right gringos tend to be "gringo-like":

* When we "freedom lovingly" bomb people in the long run we are doing them a favor ... they should actually thank us, but instead they, ungratefully indeed, become "terrorists" . . .

* we "freedom lovingly" bomb people because "God is telling us" to make sure "there is ‘freedom‘ in the Universe ..."

* we can talk all kinds of **** about everybody, but they can’t about us ("how illogically crazy, "unAmerican", sinful an act is that?")

* "negritos" are invading our country, taking advantage of us . . .

* It is OK to fatally, directly contribute to the death of half a million Iraqi children, it is just "a 'very' hard choice" ...

// __ Madeleine Albright says 500,000 dead Iraqi Children was "worth it" wins Medal of Freedom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE
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* the tank man is fighting for "what 'America' stands for"

* (the Gaia hypothesis) The Universe has some sort of Hegelian gringo spirit that went "Ouch!" on 9-11. We have physically proven it ...

* we are "the 'free' and 'the' 'brave'" ... during the time they were fighting off British occupation that meant a totally different thing than it does today. All they have ever done since then is abusing people who can't defend themselves on an equal basis. Most people with a healthy sense of reality may wonder what is so brave about that ... Can’t they find Russia and/or China on a map?

The other day I read a very strange piece of news the U.S. military was sinking their own battle ships as part of their show of forces in the China sea. Not long ago the Chinese had rammed a merchant ship against one of their battle ships and sank it and the Chinese do have WMD so why didn’t they "freedom lovingly" invade China?

However what gringos worry about is being called "gringos"?
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Old 27th July 2018, 03:24 AM   #43
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Only a gringo can call another gringo gringo?
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Old 27th July 2018, 07:32 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by rlopez2 View Post
The other day I read a very strange piece of news the U.S. military was sinking their own battle ships as part of their show of forces in the China sea. Not long ago the Chinese had rammed a merchant ship against one of their battle ships and sank it and the Chinese do have WMD so why didn’t they "freedom lovingly" invade China?
The U.S. Battleships have all been retired for many years and are now museums.

They sank an LST (small amphibious tank lander) as part of the annual RIMPAC,
RIMPAC has been going on for decades. It also often involves South American countries. I participated in it. The ship I was on later became a target during another RIMPAC, after it had been decommissioned.
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However what gringos worry about is being called "gringos"?
Call me whatever you like. It reflects more on you than it does on me.
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Old 28th July 2018, 06:07 AM   #45
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Please, profanity scanners, topical police, "moderators", ... notice that I am just replying to previous questions, issues. My replies have been previously removed, but not the questions prompting them. I couldn't quite understand why, but you know best.

I can't help but include two more of my favorite ones:

* everyone but us is brainwashed ...

* people hate us because we are great ...
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RE: Only a gringo can call another gringo gringo?

when you have the very president of a country publicly (and from his position -officially-), obnoxiously and repeatedly calling a people/whole nation a bunch of rapists, . . . and trying to -verbally- bully them into financing your "let's make 'America' great 'again'" nonsense. Yet, I would rather have that to "cool" Obama. At least with the kinds of politicians like Trump and Giuliani you see what you get. The Clintons actually instituted racist laws and started all kinds of racial memes and philosophies. At the very least Trump hasn’t tried to institute is verbal farting into laws. As even Muslim people would point out to you Obama wasn't any better than Trump. Trump is just some punk speaking his mind in uninhibited ways, which I think it is what the status quo, media hates about him, not actually his ideas.

I remember once "cool" and most loved NYC mayor Ed Koch on a talk show calling the Vietnamese "cungs" (or something like that) and when the media person didn't agree with his language usage, he defended it asking why can't he call them that, that everybody knew what he meant.
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RE: They sank an LST (small amphibious tank lander) as part of the annual RIMPAC
RE: https://thediplomat.com/2018/07/mult...-air-and-land/
RE: RIMPAC has been going on for decades. It also often involves South American countries.

Do you mean South American countries participated in this in a "coalition of the willing" kind of way?

This is what I am talking about:

// __ Five sailors injured, 10 missing after U.S. Navy destroyer collides with a merchant ship

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...3fa_story.html
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// __ Collision of USS John S. McCain is met with 'applause' in China, according to state media

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/21/uss-...ate-media.html
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// __ To Avoid Future Collisions, U.S. Navy Ships Will Advertise Their Locations in High-Traffic Areas The effort should help cut the risk of collisions at sea, but only addresses half the problem. By Kyle Mizokami Sep 20, 2017

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...traffic-areas/
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Why didn't USG "freedom love" China?
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Old 28th July 2018, 11:07 AM   #46
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RIMPAC is a voluntary exercise by all involved nations, from around the Pacific Rim.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_RIMPAC
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Old 29th July 2018, 02:14 AM   #47
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At the very least Trump hasn’t been quite able to institute his verbal farting into laws as the Clintons did with their racism and quite, "cool", "legal" corruption which has affected generations of people (I should have said):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769

// __ Trump's Muslim ban is a dangerous distraction

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...144523073.html
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// __ Corporations behind Trump's Muslim ban

https://www.wnd.com/2018/07/corporat...ps-muslim-ban/
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// __ Trump: No Muslim ban, just immigration restrictions

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...view/97077644/
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Old 29th July 2018, 10:00 AM   #48
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RE: RIMPAC is a voluntary exercise . . .

one of the problems with lying to yourself is that at some point you may, quite naturally, start believing your own lies. Would you also say: "Oh, USG has 'bilateral' agreements with all those governments. You should thank us for being the world's police, for making sure 'freedom', 'democracy', 'free wheeling capitalism', ... prevails"!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...military_bases

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...military_bases

As just an example, since the end of the 19h century, after the Spanish American war, USG has "legally" occupied part of Cuban territory they reached those still under occupation and as a condition to "allow for self government":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanis...93American_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platt_Amendment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_Naval_Base

When they brought "terrorist" detainees there they said they can torture them because they were not in U.S. territories so civil and human rights laws don't apply (I am not kidding you gringos actually talk like that). Quite funny in an ironic way, the current Cuban government running a dictatorship has internal regulations against torture and actually train police not to abuse, kill people and if they do they end up in jail (at times regular ones with common prisoners when the abuse is crass), so when they were told about torture their response was: "Yes, there is torture in Cuba, there is torture in Guantanámo"

One of USG’s preposterous ********ting arguments is that the current government (after "the Revolution") once (just once! (most probably in confusion)) collected the ridiculous amount of rent payment for occupying this land. So, they are "renting" that land to which they admit, but without any kinds of term limits or renewal contracts! But, hey! This is all "legal"!

I am telling you about this case, because I happened to be born and raised in Cuba, so it is one of my best known hells, including what I told you about the Cuban government jailing their own police with common criminals. I experienced it myself I was at that time in the notorious "Combinado del Este" prison in Havana/Cuba and I saw both: how police is thoroughly trained when it comes to "rules of engagement" right on the prison yards and the other police officers who had been legally prosecuted and imprisoned for not following what they were taught, as the training police could as well. But I assure you that kind of USG ******** is the same all over Latin America and I would say all over the world.
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Why was USG's military doing "routine exercises" in "the 'China' Sea" with South American "coalition of the willing" kinds of participants? and BTW, I am not implying that what the Chinese do is right, but as John Lennon put it: "Imagine!", just imagine what would be of the world if all we had was "freedom loving"! I would say: USG would do to the world at large what they have done to Native Americans. In fact, in quite falsifiable and measurable ways, historically speaking, USG's foreign policy and their allies has been worst than the Russians', Chinese and even Nazis', whose imperial claims have been mild compared to USG, the British, Spanish, French, Dutch, Italian, ...

When the Russian army, after a referendum and by invitation, "invaded" Crimea without a single casualty!, the British started with their uptight ********ting talk about the "rule of law" (it makes for quite a funny show watching the British, US government talk about the "rule of law", "morality", "freedom", ... ). British politicians wearing all those funny clothings would not answer many questions post to them about what are they doing in Gibraltar, "Falkland" islands, ... The reactions of the Chinese to that "rule of law" ******** have been quite interesting. ;-)
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About those routine exercises being "voluntary". These are just a few examples of what happens to you if you are not seen as "volunteering" enough by USG:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobo_Árbenz

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Roldós_Aguilera

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d'état

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Torrijos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Bertrand_Aristide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Dominique

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilma_Rousseff

with Ecuatorian President Rafael Correa (how does he dare to offer Assange asylum!) they tried repeatedly but failed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa

and with Castro they tried, and tried, and tried, ... 638 effing times!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/638_Ways_to_Kill_Castro
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...uncancampbell2

// __ 638 Ways To Kill Castro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-vhPL_Pmg0
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confes...onomic_Hit_Man
https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-E.../dp/0452287081

// __ Confessions of an Economic Hitman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUDTRfbs-oM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...entral_America

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/an...0608-0031.html
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RE: Why didn't USG "freedom love" China?

I remember when USG invaded Afghanistan that the NY Times had on its front page just one U.S. flag and then many other pictures of U.S. military officials with all those uniforms, badges and stripes sitting in a room directing a war against, ... ready?: a few Taliban hiding in remote mountains (I am not kidding you, you can look all of this up). There you have "theworldsonlysuperpower" showing their glorious "braveness"!

Where is their "theworldsonlysuperpowerness" with all those flags, uniforms, badges and stripes now that they don’t have Ronald Reagan around "to ‘stand up’ to communism and win the cold war"?

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Old 10th August 2018, 10:15 AM   #49
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Originally Posted by rlopez2 View Post
... one of the problems with lying to yourself is that at some point you may, quite naturally, start believing your own lies. Would you also say: "Oh, USG has 'bilateral' agreements with all those governments. You should thank us for being the world's police, for making sure 'freedom', 'democracy', 'free wheeling capitalism', ... prevails"!
You could stop believing your own lies by stop lying to yourself, posting false information, and paranoid opinions.
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In case you wonder why was Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff included in that list, when I saw her not being that “volunteering” about the NSA, I knew her days were numbered:

// __ Brazilian President condemns NSA spying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqNaRGBotyg
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// __ Brazilian president: US surveillance a 'breach of international law'

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...a-surveillance
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeac...Dilma_Rousseff
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The most telling aspect of that “impeachment” was the quick “PR” trip to Washington in of "they may be pigs but they are 'our pigs'" in order to get their orders from their masters:

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/18/...nts=1#comments
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If you followed politics in Brazil just a bit, you will take as a very odd joke that House speaker Eduardo Cunha would accuse any one in the solar system of being corrupt. Well, those were the kinds of folks accusing Dilma of "corruption" as part of their not so carefully fabricated coup de etat. Friends have pointed out to the that the media in Brazil is even worse than in the U.S. I can’t even begin to imagine that.
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