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11th August 2017, 10:04 AM | #521 |
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Marco Chiacchiera
Correct me if I'm wrong. Marco Chiacchiera is the only cop from the Perugian Questura not to be charged with a crime, or having allegedly abused a suspect at interrogation.
Think "The Toe of Italy". Chiacchiera is being transferred to Lamezia Terme in Calabria. A sideways move. This is about it for the clowns who advanced a wrongful prosecution. Wow. Just wow. |
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11th August 2017, 11:32 AM | #523 |
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What part of "over five days" did you not understand? The amount of hours of being at the questura or at the cottage with the police is documented by the defense in the calunnia appeal:
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Are you ignorant of the fact that exhaustion and its debilitating effects are cumulative? The evidence that she was exhausted by Nov 5/6 includes: 1) her statement in the memorial: "In regards to this "confession" that I made last night, I want to make clear that I'm very doubtful of the verity of my statements because they were made under the pressures of stress, shock and extreme exhaustion. 2) the testimony of Aida Colantone (interpreter) "At a certain moment, I don’t know if I had gone away for a moment to speak with someone from the Flying Squad or something, in passing that room, returning to this room where I remember [Amanda] was alone, it was only her, and I was practically…I understood that this girl was truly fatigued, exhausted, she was tired because I practically found her, she was draped on a seat with her head reclined toward the wall, white in the face, with her eyes closed, white, I was very struck by her pallor and I understood that this girl was in bad shape." 3) the testimony of Rita Ficarra " The girl continued to talk and said that she was fed up with the fact that she was recalled multiple times by the police and that she was simply tired. At that point I reprimanded her again because I said, “You’re tired, but you came tonight, and no one invited you here. You could have been resting.” Furthermore – I said – “you don’t understand that we’re talking about a murder, of a person who you say was your friend. You lived in the same house. It happened in your house. If the police calls you, put yourself in our shoes. We need useful information.” Your claim here, and elsewhere, that Knox did not endure 53 hours of interrogation is false. |
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I absolutely believe this nails it. While there certainly are men that are sexist and misogynistic who hold double standards I do believe they constitute a minority of men. I know I have certainly seen far more women engage in slut shaming then men.
There must be something biological that encourages women to consciously or subconsciously compete against each other and slut shaming is just one way it manifests itself. |
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A little knowledge is dangerous, Vixen.
Google is your friend... https://www.findanattorney.co.za/con...s-legal-system I have neither the time nor the energy to pull you up on this in any more detail than a pointer. Just limit your comments to your knowledge. That should shorten your comments enormously. |
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It's amazing that anyone of us has the energy.
As an aside, the "Comments Section" on the recent Rolling Stone article has broken out into open warfare, reminiscent of earlier times. If anyone doubted that there were trolls out there ready to pounce with death threats and such, just take a peek over there. This ISF/JREF thread looks sane by comparison! |
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As I said earlier regarding that comments section, the usual crazies have come out in force. One in particular has multiple ID's and likes to post supporting remarks between them making it look like there are multiple people in agreement. He's been doing it for years. That takes a really sick mind.
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Add to the long hours of questioning and the emotional shock of having your roommate raped and murdered the fact the Amanda had just gotten her period. Any woman knows how fatigued the first couple of days can make you feel. For some women, it can be so draining they have to stay home from work. I wouldn't doubt it had a lot to do with why Amanda was described by Colantone as being so "white in the face" and why she "was struck by her pallor ".
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The relevance of the citation, which discusses the South African judicial system in the context of the Oscar Pistorius trial, to the Italian judicial system may be unclear.
For the record, I will again post the provisions of Italian law (from the Italian Code of Criminal Procedure, CPP) that give the Italian Supreme Court of Cassation (CSC) the authority to acquit an appealed case without remanding that case to a lower court - thus, annulling the case. The English translation is from The Italian Code of Criminal Procedure: Critical Essays and English Translation, Gialuz, Luparia, and Scarpa (editors), Wolters Kluwer Italia (c) 2014. Article 620 Annulment without referral 1. In addition to the cases specifically provided for by the law, the Court of Cassation shall deliver a judgment of annulment without referral: A) if the criminal act is not deemed an offence by law, if the offence is extinguished or if the prosecution should not have been started or continued; .... L) in any other case in which the Court of Cassation believes the referral is superfluous or may proceed to the determination of the sentence {verdict} or take the necessary decisions. ___ The Marasca CSC panel cited CPP Article 620.1L. The panel, in its motivation report, stated that no re-examination of the available evidence or attempt to further examine the physical objects in evidence would provide any additional relevant information, and since there was no evidence of the guilt of Knox or Sollecito, then they must be acquitted of the murder/rape charges. And that is what the Marasca CSC panel did, all in accordance with Italian law. Here is the Italian text of CPP Article 620 in full: Art. 620 - Annullamento senza rinvio 1. Oltre che nei casi particolarmente previsti dalla legge, la corte pronuncia sentenza di annullamento senza rinvio: a) se il fatto non è previsto dalla legge come reato, se il reato è estinto o se l'azione penale non doveva essere iniziata o proseguita; b) se il reato non appartiene alla giurisdizione del giudice ordinario; c) se il provvedimento impugnato contiene disposizioni che eccedono i poteri della giurisdizione, limitatamente alle medesime; d) se la decisione impugnata consiste in un provvedimento non consentito dalla legge; e) se la sentenza è nulla a norma e nei limiti dell'articolo 522 in relazione a un reato concorrente; f) se la sentenza è nulla a norma e nei limiti dell'articolo 522 in relazione a un fatto nuovo; g) se la condanna è stata pronunciata per errore di persona; h) se vi è contraddizione fra la sentenza o l'ordinanza impugnata e un'altra anteriore concernente la stessa persona e il medesimo oggetto, pronunciata dallo stesso o da un altro giudice penale; i) se la sentenza impugnata ha deciso in secondo grado su materia per la quale non è ammesso l'appello; l) in ogni altro caso in cui la corte ritiene superfluo il rinvio ovvero può essa medesima procedere alla determinazione della pena o dare i provvedimenti necessari. Source: http://www.leggeonline.info/leggi/pr..._senza_rinvio/ |
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Knox used her 'engagement' to Sutherland in a fake news campaign. Once again, a sociopathic attempt to manipulate all around her.
AFAICS it is Knox who claims she was nearly driven to suicide. Given the reports of how she blossomed in jail and her open lack of remorse (refusal to pay Patrick) most likely it is yet more fake news from her stable to manipulate public sympathy. |
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All of the flat mates and acquaintances of Mez were interviewed exactly the same way as Knox. Not one of them claimed to have been at the scene and introduced Patrick as the killer/rapist.
Yet Amanda did. So Mignini found Amanda 'special', but not any of the 'British Birds' (as Grinder called them). |
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Well, none of the other witnesses made a confession and committed calunnia *obstruction of justice"). All the British birds were far more upset than Knox. Knox shrugged, said '**** happens' and was back at her desk on Monday, looking forward to going shopping with her Mom, whilst everybody else was packing their bags and getting the hell outta there. Doesn't sound like someone who would buckle easily. |
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Originally Posted by Vixen
It is part of how wrongful convictions happen - and actually did happen in this case. One of the things one needs to accomplish is the dehumanization of the accused. This means that even before a stick of evidence is collected, the dehumanization - in this case slutshaming - has to be put out there. So it matters little that 100,000s of people have as part of their personal history failed engagements. If a failed engagement was a sign of sociopathic behaviour we'd all be living behind moats and high walls. But in this case, Vixen has already decided - before the evidence is even there (of sociopathic behaviour) - that Knox is a sociopath. Therefore everything she does serves that bias. The reason why THIS engagement failed is because of a fake-news campaign. (Aside from the fact of course, what does that even mean?, but it sure does sound conspiratorial!!!) The thing that makes Vixen's post a tool in service of Mignini-surrogacy, is that this was exactly what Mignini had to do when the shoe-print which was supposed to have been Sollecito's turned out to be..... surprise, surprise, Rudy Guede's. Mignini-surrogates simply follow the leader. Let's dehumanize the woman because, heck, we already know she's a sociopath. It's not as if it is unknown how wrongful convictions happen. Vixen's post is Wrongful Conviction 101. By the way - how does Vixen know that Knox "manipulates all around her"? Simple. It's because all around her do not agree with Vixen!!!! Instead of Vixen then examining - why is it that no one agrees with her, the alternative must be true. Everyone else except Vixen must be deluded. Or worse. Amanda is a witch. I know that is true for me. I've known that Amanda was a witch for a long time now. Look at it logically - if Amanda was not a witch, I'd be in agreement with Vixen, and Mignini's case. And I'm not. Elegantly logical. |
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ROTFLMAO! Once again, you simply pull something out of your arse and fling it out there hoping it will stick. It does stick, but not to Amanda.
Using the "fake news" nonsense is being used by Trump for the same reason you've resorted to it; desperation. Amanda said she briefly contemplated suicide while in prison . Your fellow PGP are hoping for and urging her to commit suicide now. As I said, they are crazies. Or do you condone that kind of behavior? Please cite these alleged reports that "she blossomed in jail"? Her memoir supports no such nonsense. Of course, you haven't read it, have you? (rhetorical question) Amanda has no remorse because she committed no crime to feel remorse about. She apologized to Lumumba. Considering that dreadful and libelous interview he gave the Daily Mail that was proved to be full of lies, she owes him nothing. And the ECHR is going to agree. |
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[quote=Vixen;11951280]I've been told but I don't know. That Knox' supporters are largely:
2. People with a 'claim to fame', such as Stacyhs, with link's to Knox' family, friends or friends of friends.[quote] What the he** are you blabbering on about now? Do try and keep a rational string of thought here. |
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Oh, don't worry about that! If she does not retract her vile allegation within 24 hours (11:00 AM PDT) I will lodge a complaint with the mods. I have never reported anyone to the mods, but I will not hesitate to do so in this case.
It is obvious what her tactic is as we've seen them all before. When a person cannot defend their position rationally they go on the attack. As the saying goes "the best defense is a good offense". It usually works, except for those who recognize the tactic. When someone has to resort to this tactic, it shows they've lost the debate/argument. |
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And the hits just keep coming.
When one runs out of "argument" make allegations. Wrongful Conviction 101. Never defend. Always attack. Wrongful Conviction 101. When losing try to shift the debate. Even if it means inventing totally ludicrous claims like the "So it is something shameful" "by your own admission" thing above. Then we can have a dandy argument over the obvious. Stacyhs never admitted to that. But the point is not that, the point is that we'll now argue it as if it had been a serious observation on Vixen's part. Wrongful Conviction 101. |
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1-800 Devry Certificate Receiver Stefanoni definitely doesn't know anything about blood splatter, but the Italian prosecution "experts" in this case just make stuff up anyway so that wouldn't stop her.
However even she isn't dumb enough to produce evidence that a blood dripping knife was in the bathroom, when the only person on Gaia's green earth that voluntarily admitted to being in the bathroom at the same time Meredith was spewing blood from being viciously attacked with a knife, was known knife carrying crook Rudy Guede. So I think it's safe to say this was something conjured up seconds before being posted by Vixen who definitely doesn't have a delusional fantasy view of this stupid case. |
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