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Old 8th November 2019, 10:57 AM   #1
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A Breeders License

Here's an idea, people need a license both to drive as well as to get married, but any two buck toothed hicks can start banging out kids with no checks and balances, and that just doesn't add up. Many roads to Marriage involve counseling and related screening to make sure the Union is most likely to have a chance, and one takes driver's ed to get a drivers license.

it's time to screen those who want kids to prove they're ready to be healthy and nurturing parents and not dump another dysfunctional family disaster upon society.
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Old 8th November 2019, 10:59 AM   #2
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Here's an idea, people need a license both to drive as well as to get married, but any two buck toothed hicks can start banging out kids with no checks and balances, and that just doesn't add up. Many roads to Marriage involve counseling and related screening to make sure the Union is most likely to have a chance, and one takes driver's ed to get a drivers license.

it's time to screen those who want kids to prove they're ready to be healthy and nurturing parents and not dump another dysfunctional family disaster upon society.
Uh, yeah. I can't imagine what problematic issues would arise.
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That is not a good idea.
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Old 8th November 2019, 11:11 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by wasapi View Post
Uh, yeah. I can't imagine what problematic issues would arise.
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That is not a good idea.
I'm with wasapi, I can't see how this could go wrong.
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As someone with a kid, if I denied someone permission to have a kid I would be doing them a favor.
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Old 8th November 2019, 11:18 AM   #6
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Old 8th November 2019, 11:20 AM   #7
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Pretty sure this is a Modest Proposal.
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It makes much more sense to strongly support homosexuality. Perhaps the government should issue grants encouraging people to convert. All the fun and no risk of having kids. It is the logical and sexiest course of action.
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Old 8th November 2019, 11:27 AM   #9
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I’d go one step further. Kill the buck tooth hicks. Their mere presence is offensive and dangerous. The nazis were on to something in this regard.
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So people breed kids?

Ever hear of the word, parent?

Better to improve parenting skills with classes in high school required.
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Old 8th November 2019, 11:42 AM   #11
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I’d go one step further. Kill the buck tooth hicks. Their mere presence is offensive and dangerous. The nazis were on to something in this regard.
the opposing argument being doing something to address Overpopulation as well as addressing parenting by those not prepared for it. Nothing Fascist about common sense and expediency.
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Old 8th November 2019, 11:43 AM   #12
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So people breed kids?

Ever hear of the word, parent?

Better to improve parenting skills with classes in high school required.
Right, then get license, then you can proceed. If not, adoption takes over until classes get passed.
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Right, then get license, then you can proceed. If not, adoption takes over until classes get passed.
How do you plan on enforcing the requirement for a Breeders license? Fining or imprisoning unlicensed parents is just going to hinder or eliminate their ability to take care of their children.
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How do you plan on enforcing the requirement for a Breeders license? Fining or imprisoning unlicensed parents is just going to hinder or eliminate their ability to take care of their children.
Mandatory abortions.
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Mandatory abortions.
That's a bit extreme. Chastity belts are more practical.
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It makes much more sense to strongly support homosexuality. Perhaps the government should issue grants encouraging people to convert. All the fun and no risk of having kids. It is the logical and sexiest course of action.
I, as a mostly straight man, agree with the above.
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Old 8th November 2019, 12:08 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
it's time to screen those who want kids to prove they're ready to be healthy and nurturing parents and not dump another dysfunctional family disaster upon society.
And what if someone gets pregnant without a license? I don't see how any enforcement mechanism can end up as anything other than dystopian.

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Better to improve parenting skills with classes in high school required.
Schools often fail to teach kids basic reading and math. You really think they can do an effective job at teaching them to parent? That seems like wishful thinking.
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Sometimes the government will find buck tooth toddlers that were born to unlicensed parents. Those children are humanely euthanized. This is considered necessary because the child carries "the genes".
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
That's a bit extreme. Chastity belts are more practical.
Nah, put birth control in Mountain Dew, cheap lite beer, White Claw......

Just a little bit. One mountain dew a week and you remain fertile, one a day, not so much.

For this plan to really work we need that male oral contraceptive though.
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For this plan to really work we need that male oral contraceptive though.
We already have that. It's called chewing gum.
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That's a bit extreme. Chastity belts are more practical.
and funnier
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I think we are overlooking the simpler solution of sterilization of the buck tooth hicks. And underbite hillbillies. Maybe we could just offer castration at the dentists office?
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Are we going to just gloss over that this proposal, as written, seems to be about annihilating the conservative Republican voter base?
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Are we going to just gloss over that this proposal, as written, seems to be about annihilating the conservative Republican voter base?
You say that as if there are no Democrats living in trailer parks.

I think that: if you don't count inner cities or KKK, that rest of the USA is pretty much a 50/50 split. Fly-over county has both red & blue states. There are Democrat farmers employing illegals too. Any large demographic is a mix.

But back to the OP, yes we need population control, and better child rearing than so many have.

What we need is a temporary sperm clamp. Installed at age 14, left on until a married couple wants to have kids. At that point, issue them a puppy. Two years later, grade the dogs into tertiles. Top, we remove the clamp. Bottom, we make it permanent. Middle, issue them a new pup to try it again. Because, raising a dog is the closest thing we have to raising a person.
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What we really need is licensing for posting thoughts on fora.
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Are we going to just gloss over that this proposal, as written, seems to be about annihilating the conservative Republican voter base?
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Schools often fail to teach kids basic reading and math. You really think they can do an effective job at teaching them to parent? That seems like wishful thinking.
Why not? It's already done in schools here in Seattle. They even use little infant robots the kids take home and take care of to see what it's really like. The robot-infants are very realistic.
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Why not? It's already done in schools here in Seattle.
Seattle, where they're also trying to insert identity politics into K-12 math classes? They may well be trying to teach parenting, but you'll have to excuse my skepticism that the same people that push woke math are actually succeeding.
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Why not? It's already done in schools here in Seattle. They even use little infant robots the kids take home and take care of to see what it's really like. The robot-infants are very realistic.
Teaching a bit of baby-sitting isn't the same thing as teaching parenting.

You'd probably want several semesters, at a high school level, covering such topics as "guiding human maturity and sexuality", "modeling and encouraging critical thinking", and "how to instill a moral compass through instruction and example".

I think it would call for at least one semester of parenting case studies. Actual story problems about parenting, that the students must review, discuss, and ultimately demonstrate understanding of.

I doubt anyone who's been a parent (or happened to observe children more than once in their lives) who thinks that babysitting Wetty Betty for a few weeks even begins to teach actual parenting.

My sense of the "take home an egg/sack of flour/cheap doll/expensive doll" exercise is that it's more of a "scared safe" tactic than an actual attempt to teach parenting. The idea being that even though kids are too stupid to really internalize the serious challenges of being a parent, they can still be frightened by the immediate pain-in-the-assness of having to babysit an infant, and choose to practice safe sex for a while. Hopefully long enough for their maturity to kick in and help them make a more informed and responsible choice.
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the opposing argument being doing something to address Overpopulation as well as addressing parenting by those not prepared for it. Nothing Fascist about common sense and expediency.
Did you know that world population is projected to peak around 2040 and reduce after that? Overpopulation is looking after itself.

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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Here's an idea, people need a license both to drive as well as to get married, but any two buck toothed hicks can start banging out kids with no checks and balances, and that just doesn't add up. Many roads to Marriage involve counseling and related screening to make sure the Union is most likely to have a chance, and one takes driver's ed to get a drivers license.

it's time to screen those who want kids to prove they're ready to be healthy and nurturing parents and not dump another dysfunctional family disaster upon society.
This is the road the leads to things like the T4 program in Nazi Germany..sort of a warm up exercise to the Holocaust where those "unworthy of life" were exterminated.
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Why not? It's already done in schools here in Seattle. They even use little infant robots the kids take home and take care of to see what it's really like. The robot-infants are very realistic.
Shades of a certain episode of "Buffy The Vampire Slayer".
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Why not? It's already done in schools here in Seattle. They even use little infant robots the kids take home and take care of to see what it's really like. The robot-infants are very realistic.
I suppose it also weeds out the pedophiles.
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People that pop out more than one sprog should be charged a multiple child carbon tax and be made to plant 100 trees a year.

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Don't worry. Soon enough people will be clamoring for increased procreation because of negative population growth. Hopefully they have come up with a way to grow humans on demand in vats by then, so they don't have to about forcibly impregnating women.
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Don't worry. Soon enough people will be clamoring for increased procreation because of negative population growth. Hopefully they have come up with a way to grow humans on demand in vats by then, so they don't have to about forcibly impregnating women.
Much of Europe has falling populations. China will not continue to grow and when South American and African populations get under control, world population will fall. Nothing surer.

People having a lot of children now should be given a medal.
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Much of Europe has falling populations. China will not continue to grow and when South American and African populations get under control, world population will fall. Nothing surer.

People having a lot of children now should be given a medal.
Why a medal? Who needs a lump of ore and a ribbon? Better to award them a first class flight to the vacation spot of their choice, if their contribution is so valuable. Am I right?
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Here's an idea, people need a license both to drive as well as to get married, but any two buck toothed hicks can start banging out kids with no checks and balances, and that just doesn't add up. Many roads to Marriage involve counseling and related screening to make sure the Union is most likely to have a chance, and one takes driver's ed to get a drivers license.
What happens to people who get/make others pregnant without a license?
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Why not? It's already done in schools here in Seattle. They even use little infant robots the kids take home and take care of to see what it's really like. The robot-infants are very realistic.

How's that working out? ( With regard to more responsible parenting .. )
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Definitely a tax.

Maybe also forced sterilization to save the planet

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...fewer-children

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The new study, published in Environmental Research Letters, sets out the impact of different actions on a comparable basis. By far the biggest ultimate impact is having one fewer child, which the researchers calculated equated to a reduction of 58 tonnes of CO2 for each year of a parent’s life.

The figure was calculated by totting up the emissions of the child and all their descendants, then dividing this total by the parent’s lifespan. Each parent was ascribed 50% of the child’s emissions, 25% of their grandchildren’s emissions and so on.
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