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Old 23rd November 2005, 11:55 AM   #1
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JAMES CRAIK, Psychic Diagnostician

Dear Sir,

As per instruction I am submitting a 2 paragraph submission for your challenge.

I will demonstrate my ability to diagnose a person(s) disease/dysfunction by the use of hand-on/intuitive capability. I will outline the exact nature of the problem in the system and in most cases outline the source of the problem.

I am a layman and do not interpret the system in a medical dialogue, and will not label infections, organic/non-organic/disease and dysfunction by their medical label, however I will indicate the type of infection/disease/dysfunction and location by a general name, i.e. bacterial/viral/heavy metal/tumor/growth...it's origin and location within the system.

I do not test with any other method than "hands-on" and will not take any test on an individual(s) over a long distance (telephone/letter) and that my results be scrutinized by an independent Medical person or facility.

If you wish any further information, please contact me at your convenience.

Sincerely,

James Craik
Calgary, Alberta
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Old 23rd November 2005, 12:51 PM   #2
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Dear Mr. Craik,

Thank you for submitting a JREF Paranormal Challenge application.

We understand the nature of your claim, but we need to know the following before your application can be processed:

1- Under what conditions, specifically, do you propose to demonstrate your claim, and

2- What degree of accuracy do you claim? Or, in other words, what do you propose will constitute a successful demonstration? For example, if there were ten (10) subjects with medical problems/diseases, how many successful diagnoses do you claim to be able to offer out of ten attempts?

We will also require some further evidence that you actually possess this ability before we contact our associates in Canada to arrange for preliminary testing. Have you actually performed such diagnostic ability in the past?

If so, please submit three (3) notarized affidavits from individuals who have witnessed a demonstration of your ability, as per Rule #13 in the JREF Paranormal Challenge rules (http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html).

If you have an email address, please respond to this letter via email at the internet address listed below. This will speed the process significantly.

I look forward to your reply.

-Kramer, JREF Paranormal Claims Dept.
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Old 27th December 2005, 11:33 AM   #3
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Dear Mr. Kramer;

I ahve received your letter and have aquired the necessary affidavits who have witnessed my abilities to accurately diagnose medical conditions. Where would you like these sent?

I am not understanding the inquirey about the conditions which I will demonstrate this ability? Please give an example I am also able the accurately demonstrate my ability 80% of the time. Some people not at all, some people100 %.

I don't understand why, it just is, but the average for the majority is 80 to 90% of the medical conditions which they have.

Sincerely
James Craik


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Hello Mr. Craik,

Thank you for your reply. We are pleased to hear that you have managed to gather the 3 required affidavits. We look forward to receiving them.

Obviously, you need to now send them directly to me, here at the JREF.

-Kramer, JREF
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Old 9th January 2006, 09:50 AM   #4
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3 affidavits?

I received three notarized affidavits this morning, as follows:

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I have known James Craik for approximately 6 years. In the time I have known him, I have personally epxerienced his known ability to diagnose and treat using psychic powers. His ability is a true demonstration of psychic powers that is absolutely undeniable.

- Holly J.

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I have been a patient if James Craik for a few years now. I would like to tell you how he has healed my body. He diagnosed and treated the cancer which has spread rapidly through my body. I am now cancer-free and I have been for quite some time now. It is gone!

Before seeing him I had many gall baldder attacks with no successfuly treatment other surgery, of which I refused. I had never told him of these attcks And again he diagnosed and treated me for these attacks. I have been free of pain and attacks ever since. It has now been past three years.

There are many more problems I have had, which he has successfully treated me for. I have my life back again.

I have witnessed this man's ability to diagnose and treat with great success. This man has many abilities I feel which he hasn't even used yet.

I go to him with confidence and would recommend him to anyone. We need more people like him to keep our population healthy, out of hospitals and not break the bank in the doing so.

- A faithful patient, Cleone G.

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In the 14 plus years I have known James Craik, I have personally witnessed James' intuitive skills to correctly diagnose and treat numerous individuals successfully. For those clients who came to see James because conventional medicine had failed them, they are astounded that answers can come so quickly. Theses same individuals had experienced months of medical tests, waited to see many different medical specialists and tried many different medicines without success. They expressed immense relief that James could see what was wrong with them and treat it...

On ocassion James would detect and inform certain individuals of cancerous tumors in specified locations and recommend early treatment. Reactions have not always been positive or welcoming. After all, how can someone just come out of the blue and say something so bizarre without doing tests, etc...within a matter of months we will hear that these people have undergone surgery and treatment for exactly what James had indicated.

The difficulty in writing this letter is not what to say but how to condense so much information within a few lines.

- Ann L.

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Dear Mr. Craik,
I am in receipt of the 3 notarized affidavits you have submitted, as per our request. We appreciate the effort you put forth in this regard, and we also acknowledge your obvious integrity in attempting to satisfy the Challenge rules. However, you neglected some important details when seeking persons to supply these affidavits.

We requested three affidavits from working, professional individuals qualified to observe the phenomenon in question. What you have instead submitted to us are 2 affidavits from persons who believe they have been cured by you, and one offering only anecdotal evidence. These cannot be accepted as real evidence of anything substantial enough to warrant a closer investigation of your claim.

Also, your claim involves diagnosing illness or disease, while the three affidavits additionally attest to your powers as a healer. Two claim that you have personally treated them and cured them of their conditions. So, these are not affidavits from persons witnessing a phenomenon as an impartial 3rd party with no agenda. Two affidavits are from persons who believe that you have cured them, and the other is from one who simply believes. This will not suffice. Also, they neglected identify themselves by profession. Please refer to point #4.8 of the Challenge FAQ at the following link on our website for more information on the affidavit requirement:

http://www.randi.org/research/faq.html#4.8

However, based upon your apparent desire to meet the necessary requirements, we will accept these 3 affidavits on the following condition:

Please submit a 4th affidavit from any doctor or medical professional who has actually treated any of the 3 women from whom you gathered your affidavits, attesting to the fact that the diseases/conditions you "cured" them of did in fact exist prior to your treatment, and that the condition no longer exists, subsequent to your treatment alone.

If you cannot gather such evidence from a doctor who has treated any of these women, you may submit ONE further affidavit from another individual who CAN supply an affidavit from their doctor, testifying to the fact that the condition existed before your treatment, and has since vanished.

I apologize for making you go the extra mile here, Mr. Craik, but you must understand that claims of psychic healing are among the most common paranormal claims, and that Mr. Randi, in over 30 years of investigating such claims, has not been able to verify a single one of them.

We simply need a little more evidence than what you have provided. Testimony from the healer, or the healed, is not the type of evidence we can accept.

Please provide us with one more affidavit from a medical professional who has examined one of your witnesses before and after your treatment, and we will accept your claim immediately.

I look forward to your reply.

KRAMER, JREF Paranormal Claims Dept.
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Old 9th January 2006, 01:05 PM   #5
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Dear Mr. Kramer:

If you will observe the application form sent to on November 17,2005 and the application form dated 11,15,2005 and notarised, it does not include a rule 13. The computor and printer down loaded exactly what was available at that time as can be seen on the hard copy sent to you I have the means to submit another affidavit as per your request, but will advise that no cure or trestment can be effective unless it is diagnosed correctly(as any medical professional will swear to). Also it is interesting that you waived those conditions for Sylvia Brown and you are merely observers to this demonstration unless you are in some way taking an active part in it?

Sincerely , James Craig


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Dear Mr. Craik,

Thank you for your reply. Sylvia Browne's "powers" are far more easily tested than yours, and Randi has indeed taken a keen interest in seeing her submit to a test she agreed to on the Larry King Show almost 3 years ago. Please do not compare yourself to other applicants. It will only slow the process.

I am pleased to hear that you do possess the means to acquire the additional affidavit we require, the submission of which will render this present debate moot.

I look forward to receiving it.

-Kramer, JREF Paranormal Claims Dept.
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Old 10th January 2006, 09:07 AM   #6
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My powers are indeed the same as Sylvia Brown's abilities as I submitted my request with the application form to "diagnose medical conditions with accuracy of 80 to 90 %"
Please review my application and verify the "Rule 13"

-James Craik


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Hello Mr. Craik,

We verify Rule #13.

Once again, and for final clarification, the affidavits you submitted are from person's who believe they have been healed by you. That is not acceptable.

Before we can accept your claim for testing, we need evidence from a medical practitioner, as per my previous email.

-Kramer, JREF Paranormal Claims Dept.
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Old 10th January 2006, 12:59 PM   #7
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Dear Mr. Kramer

I have asked you to verify Rule 13 on the Application form I notarised and submitted to you If yes is your answer, then you have not reviewed the application The individuals that submitted the affidavits did not state that they were 'healed' by me and there is a medical professional that is included in that group of 3 .

Sincerely ,
James Craik


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Dear Mr. Craik,

Actually, one of your affidavits clearly states that they have been healed by you, and another states that they have "personally experienced" your healing powers. If one affidavit was from a medical professional, that person did not think it necessary to make mention of their profession, or include any credentials in their affidavit.

Sir, I have repeatedly made you aware of what is required before we can proceed. I will not enter into any extended debate with you regarding the JREF Challenge rules, or any of the requirements therein. They are easily understood by reading the rules and the FAQ ast our website.

If indeed one of the affidavits is from a medical professional, please have that individual submit a new affidavit that indentifies their field of expertise and degrees or doctorates, along with documented materials that attest to the "healing" that can be used to verify your claim.

And once again, as stated previously, this documentation must include evidence that the condition in question existed PRIOR to your treatment, and that the condition now no longer exists. The subject must also be able to provide evidence that he/she received no medical treatment other than that which you administered.

We will not debate this forever, Mr. Craik. You stated recently that you "...have the means to submit another affidavit as per your request", so I will hold you to that statement and ask that you now resist the temptation to debate the matter further, and secure that final affidavit.

-Kramer, JREF
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Old 11th January 2006, 08:11 AM   #8
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Application REJECTED, File CLOSED

I will not debate this any further as you are unable to verify "rule 13" on my notarised submission to enter this contest. Your requirements are moot and because"Rule 13" is not in evidence and you do not wish to address this then I believe it is necessary to submit my findings to the authorities.

-James Craik


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Dear Mr. Craik,

Thank you for this email. Your application is hereby rejected.

Any future correspondence from you will be immediately discarded.

KRAMER, JREF Paranormal Claims Dept.
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