Oral Roberts is dead. - Page 2

Brown · 16th December 2009, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Beerina

Compared to what? I wonder if anybody died because of a faith heal (did he do those?) or because they relied on prayer.

Did he do faith healing? No, he didn't. There is no credible evidence that Oral in any way contributed to any supernatural healing.

He did, however, CLAIM to be able to provide or facilitate or intercede for or otherwise bring about supernatural intervention in people's lives, which included supernatural healing.

At one time he was the most well-known individual for pushing this totally bogus claim. Even into the 1990s, he was on the air, urging his viewers to send him money and telling them to "Expect your miracle!"

One of the last memories of my grandmother was her watching this rogue on TV and agreeing with Oral when he falsely promised that miracles would come to those who believed. This is not a pleasant memory to have. As far as anyone in my family could tell, she received no miracle of any kind.

Oral kept her money anyway.

On May 1, 2003, it was my great pleasure to shake the hand of a man who exposed rascals like Oral for what they were. That man was James Randi.

KingMerv00 · 16th December 2009, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by billw

A fast zombie...

No such thing.

arthwollipot · 16th December 2009, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by KingMerv00

No such thing.

Yeah. Fast zombies are a fiction cooked up by fearmongering media outlets.

Silly Green Monkey · 17th December 2009, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Brown

Did he do faith healing? No, he didn't. There is no credible evidence that Oral in any way contributed to any supernatural healing.

On May 1, 2003, it was my great pleasure to shake the hand of a man who exposed rascals like Oral for what they were. That man was James Randi.

Didn't one of the earliest posts in this thread claim that James Randi's book Faith Healers included Oral Roberts in the list of faith healers?

KingMerv00 · 17th December 2009, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Yeah. Fast zombies are a fiction cooked up by fearmongering media outlets.

Not fearmongering...lamemongering.

kbm99 · 17th December 2009, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by Silly Green Monkey

Didn't one of the earliest posts in this thread claim that James Randi's book Faith Healers included Oral Roberts in the list of faith healers?

being called a faith healer != actually healing anyone via faith

pgwenthold · 17th December 2009, 08:43 AM

I won't look for it or anything, but Michelangelo Signorele played a clip of Roberts yesterday doing an anti-gay rant. It was in one respect, absolutely disgusting the amount of vile this guy was spewing, but I have to admit, it was also kind of hot, as he was pretty explicit in describing the passion of gay sex.

Nursefoxfire · 17th December 2009, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by pgwenthold

I won't look for it or anything, but Michelangelo Signorele played a clip of Roberts yesterday doing an anti-gay rant. It was in one respect, absolutely disgusting the amount of vile this guy was spewing, but I have to admit, it was also kind of hot, as he was pretty explicit in describing the passion of gay sex.

probably this one, although I'm at work and can't listen to it right now:

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I AGREE

Cainkane1 · 17th December 2009, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Nursefoxfire

probably this one, although I'm at work and can't listen to it right now:

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I AGREE

If you want to see a anti gay fundy rhetoric go to jack Chick tracts and they have a tract that actually shows two gay guys kissing in Sodom. It also shows a terrified child cowering from a gorilla like pervert.

pgwenthold · 17th December 2009, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Nursefoxfire

probably this one, although I'm at work and can't listen to it right now:

YouTube Video This video is not hosted by the ISF. The ISF can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website.

I AGREE

The part I heard starts at about 3:30 or so in this clip, and then goes on from there. The part where "the arousal is so great, the person goes insane." I'm like, man, if this is what gay sex is like, I might get me some of that. That's hot!!!

ponderingturtle · 17th December 2009, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by paximperium

While I do hope his "university" collapses into ruin and his crap based beliefs die with him, his family and friends do miss him.

Evidence?

16th December 2009, 11:18 AM	#41
Brown Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,984	Originally Posted by Beerina Compared to what? I wonder if anybody died because of a faith heal (did he do those?) or because they relied on prayer. Did he do faith healing? No, he didn't. There is no credible evidence that Oral in any way contributed to any supernatural healing. He did, however, CLAIM to be able to provide or facilitate or intercede for or otherwise bring about supernatural intervention in people's lives, which included supernatural healing. At one time he was the most well-known individual for pushing this totally bogus claim. Even into the 1990s, he was on the air, urging his viewers to send him money and telling them to "Expect your miracle!" One of the last memories of my grandmother was her watching this rogue on TV and agreeing with Oral when he falsely promised that miracles would come to those who believed. This is not a pleasant memory to have. As far as anyone in my family could tell, she received no miracle of any kind. Oral kept her money anyway. On May 1, 2003, it was my great pleasure to shake the hand of a man who exposed rascals like Oral for what they were. That man was James Randi.
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16th December 2009, 07:49 PM	#43
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 70,994	Originally Posted by KingMerv00 No such thing. Yeah. Fast zombies are a fiction cooked up by fearmongering media outlets.
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17th December 2009, 07:23 AM	#46
kbm99 Critical Thinker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 271	Originally Posted by Silly Green Monkey Didn't one of the earliest posts in this thread claim that James Randi's book Faith Healers included Oral Roberts in the list of faith healers? being called a faith healer != actually healing anyone via faith
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17th December 2009, 08:43 AM	#47
pgwenthold Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 20,213	I won't look for it or anything, but Michelangelo Signorele played a clip of Roberts yesterday doing an anti-gay rant. It was in one respect, absolutely disgusting the amount of vile this guy was spewing, but I have to admit, it was also kind of hot, as he was pretty explicit in describing the passion of gay sex.
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17th December 2009, 11:19 AM	#51
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 50,732	Originally Posted by paximperium While I do hope his "university" collapses into ruin and his crap based beliefs die with him, his family and friends do miss him. Evidence?
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16th December 2009, 03:36 PM	#42
KingMerv00 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 14,458	Originally Posted by billw A fast zombie... No such thing.

17th December 2009, 01:21 AM	#44
Silly Green Monkey Cowardly Lurking in the Shadows of Greatness Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,248	Originally Posted by Brown Did he do faith healing? No, he didn't. There is no credible evidence that Oral in any way contributed to any supernatural healing. On May 1, 2003, it was my great pleasure to shake the hand of a man who exposed rascals like Oral for what they were. That man was James Randi. Didn't one of the earliest posts in this thread claim that James Randi's book Faith Healers included Oral Roberts in the list of faith healers?

17th December 2009, 06:26 AM	#45
KingMerv00 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 14,458	Originally Posted by arthwollipot Yeah. Fast zombies are a fiction cooked up by fearmongering media outlets. Not fearmongering...lamemongering.