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Old Today, 06:27 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by Distracted1 View Post
Good post. You are, however, crafting an argument that draws a stark line between "nature and nurture" when you assert that "either one or the other" would be responsible for a disparity in outcome.
Isn't it more likely some combination of the two?
If it's some combination, then inequality of opportunity still exists and still needs to be addressed.

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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I thought only old racist grandmas said 'blacks' as a noun.
They usually say, "coloreds or blacks, whatever we're suppose call them now, I can't keep up."

I think equality of opportunity should be the goal but we clearly aren't there yet and its not exactly easy to measure, so outcomes are a decent indirect measure. Even if it is true that equality of outcome is even less possible than equality of opportunity.....without some sort of Harrison Bergeron leveling.
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Originally Posted by ahhell View Post
They usually say, "coloreds or blacks, whatever we're suppose call them now, I can't keep up."
Followed, sotto voce, by "I don't see why we can't call them ********s any more, nobody ever used to complain about it."

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Originally Posted by Dave Rogers View Post
If it's some combination, then inequality of opportunity still exists and still needs to be addressed.

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I agree. However, ignoring "nature" and how little or how much of a role it plays hinders attempts at crafting fair policies- if we are using "outcome" as the measure of success or failure of such policy.
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