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Old 16th September 2021, 08:08 AM   #1
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The "Best of Jen Psaki" Thread

Gotta love her.

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‘I don’t think the president is looking for the guidance of members of Congress who stood by while… the leader of their party fomented an insurrection’ — Jen Psaki on GOP criticism of Gen. Milley
https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/stat...92781692973059
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I used to think that Republicans were just jerks. Now I'm convinced that they're all sick, evil, twisted pieces of [first of George Carlin's seven dirty words].

"Biden's a Commie, like the Rockefellers!" -- some idiot overheard
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Fanboying over elected officials who wield tremendous power is weird behavior.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Fanboying over elected officials who wield tremendous power is weird behavior.
zero. she wields zero power
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And she's not elected, is she?
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Fanboying over elected officials who wield tremendous power is weird behavior.
I'm sorry, are you referring to me or to Trump fanboys?
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"Biden's a Commie, like the Rockefellers!" -- some idiot overheard
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Originally Posted by shemp View Post
I'm sorry, are you referring to me or to Trump fanboys?
Either, both.

Psaki's job is to be a mouthpiece of the presidency, spinning stories and carefully managing public perception of the most powerful office in our government.

It's a role that merits a lot of vigilant skepticism, if not outright adversarial caution.
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We must remain vigilant and ensure that she continues to wield no power and remains unelected. I promise to do my bit, however small.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Fanboying over elected officials who wield tremendous power is weird behavior.
LoL what an odd as hell response. Psaki has done a great job handling the misinformation and aggressive questions by Doocy, OAN, etc. She's been a welcome change from the previous Press Secretary and has returned normalcy to the daily briefings.

"Fanboying" her is no more weird than "fanboying" anything else (shoe brands, athletes, cars, clothes, etc.). It's part of making a choice and being proud of that choice.
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Originally Posted by plague311 View Post
LoL what an odd as hell response. Psaki has done a great job handling the misinformation and aggressive questions by Doocy, OAN, etc. She's been a welcome change from the previous Press Secretary and has returned normalcy to the daily briefings.

"Fanboying" her is no more weird than "fanboying" anything else (shoe brands, athletes, cars, clothes, etc.). It's part of making a choice and being proud of that choice.
To be fair, I would say the same of pre-Trump press secretaries as well.

Don't mind me, I'm just grumpy and not a fan of "pep-rally" politics. Go team!
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
To be fair, I would say the same of pre-Trump press secretaries as well.

Don't mind me, I'm just grumpy and not a fan of "pep-rally" politics. Go team!
That's not pep-rally politics, it's just welcoming people who actually display some competence in what their appointed position.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
To be fair, I would say the same of pre-Trump press secretaries as well.

Don't mind me, I'm just grumpy and not a fan of "pep-rally" politics. Go team!
This is not a pep rally, she is doing a great job and she does it with style, grace and wit. Unlike her predecessor, the screeching harpy.
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That's not pep-rally politics, it's just welcoming people who actually display some competence in what their appointed position.
It's entirely possible to respect the intelligence and professionalism Psaki brings to her job without buying into every policy position. The Trumpers were stupid, belligerent liars, starting with Sean Spicer's transparent Inaugural Day lies about the size of Trump's crowd.
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Has Psaki even had a Spicer moment? Has Biden trotted her out to tell a bald-faced lie with absolutely no remorse?
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This is not a pep rally, she is doing a great job and she does it with style, grace and wit. Unlike her predecessor, the screeching harpy.
Agreed. Psaki is a professional, credible, well-spoken, intelligent, and competent WH Press Secretary. She holds regular press conferences, answers reporters' questions without repeatedly and blatantly lying. IOW, she's everything that Trump's menagerie of press secretaries were not.
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Gee, Owen...maybe because Biden doesn't think HIS religion should determine what OTHER people do. Maybe you should ask Trump why he committed serial adultery on all three of his wives when he claims he's a Christian and holds up a Bible to prove it ...or to use as a prop.


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Owen Jensen, a reporter with EWTN, a Catholic news network, asked Psaki during her daily press briefing why the president supports abortion "when his own Catholic faith teaches abortion is morally wrong."

"He believes that it is a woman’s right, it’s a woman’s body and it’s her choice," Psaki answered.

Jensen pressed, "Who does he believe then should look out for the unborn child?"

Psaki reiterated that the president believes abortion is a woman’s right and then reminded Jensen of his biological makeup.

"He believes it is up to a woman to make those decisions and up to a woman to make those with her doctor," she said. "I know you’ve never faced those choices, nor you have never been pregnant, but for women out there who have faced those choices this is an incredibly difficult thing and the president believes their rights should be respected."

Jensen tried to ask another question but Psaki dismissed him, saying, "I think we have to move on. You’ve had plenty of time today."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/psa...n-bidens-faith
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Fox's Peter Doocey got an earful from Psaki:

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Is the White House concerned that Major League baseball is moving their All-Star Game to Colorado, where voting regulations are very similar to Georgia?” Doocy asked Psaki.


“Well, let me just refute the first point you made,” Psaki responded. “First, let me say, on Colorado, Colorado allows you to register on Election Day. Colorado has voting by mail where they send, to 100 percent of people in the state who are eligible, applications to vote by mail."

“Ninety-four percent of people in Colorado voted by mail in the 2020 election, and they also allow for a range of materials to provide, even if they vote on Election Day, for the limited number of people who vote on Election Day,” she added.

Georgia does not allow voter registration on Election Day, nor does it regularly send applications for absentee ballots to all eligible residents.
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“I think it’s important to remember the context here,” Psaki added. “The Georgia legislation is built on a lie. There was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election; Georgia’s top Republican election officials have acknowledged that repeatedly in interviews. And ultimately, let me add one more thing: It’s up to Major League Baseball to determine where they’re holding their All-Star Game.”
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Mod WarningShed load of off topic and personal bickering moved to AAH. I've allowed to remain a small bit of discussion of her performance, but the topic of this thread is quite clear from the thread title and the opening post, keep to it or don't post. As ever ignoring a mod box warning may result in further moderation which can include infractions, suspensions and even banning.
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Now THAT is what I call hot!
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
Now THAT is what I call hot!
How so? In what sense? You mean, politically so?

I don't find this commentary of hers to be compelling, tbh.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
How so? In what sense? You mean, politically so?

I don't find this commentary of hers to be compelling, tbh.
Not enough lies in it to be compelling, eh? Here...this should do it for ya:

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Not enough lies in it to be compelling, eh? Here...this should do it for ya:

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What does this have to do with Psaki? Isn't that off-topic?
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What does this have to do with Psaki? Isn't that off-topic?
It shows just what a professional and competent press sec she is compared to KC. You know, one who doesn't have to rely on "alternative facts". LOL!!
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In light of the ghoulish photos and videos of mounted border patrol agents whipping Haitian asylum seekers at the border:

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WH Press Secretary Jen Psaki on Haitian asylum seekers in Texas: "Our message continues to be…now is not the time to come"
https://twitter.com/aidachavez/statu...12603858866177

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In light of the ghoulish photos and videos of mounted border patrol agents whipping Haitian asylum seekers at the border:



https://twitter.com/aidachavez/statu...12603858866177

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If anyone would like more information rather than a just random ass, out of context, incomplete quote from a journalist, here's another link. Sorry, I don't have a quip or hashtag to go with it, so I'll just quote some more context.

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White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Monday called images of a U.S. Border Patrol agent on horseback chasing Haitian migrants “horrific,”

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"I have seen some of the footage. I don't have the full context. I can't imagine what context would make that appropriate, but I don't have additional details," she told reporters at the daily White House briefing. "I don't think anyone seeing that footage would think it's acceptable or appropriate."

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She called footage of the incident "horrible to watch," but added "we just have to get more information on that" before she could comment further. Asked if the agent should be fired, she said, "Of course they should never be able to do it again."
She condemned it, but is definitely doing a bit of ass covering.

Any other dope quips or hashtags I missed, ST? Got any other out of context tweets to drop?
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If anyone would like more information rather than a just random ass, out of context, incomplete quote from a journalist, here's another link. Sorry, I don't have a quip or hashtag to go with it, so I'll just quote some more context.



She condemned it, but is definitely doing a bit of ass covering.

Any other dope quips or hashtags I missed, ST? Got any other out of context tweets to drop?

Maybe she's being careful not to over-commit without having enough knowledge about the subject.
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Maybe she's being careful not to over-commit without having enough knowledge about the subject.
Or maybe she is just another spin doctor and mouthpiece, like anyone in her position? This sort of behavior is to be expected.
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Or maybe she is just another spin doctor and mouthpiece, like anyone in her position? This sort of behavior is to be expected.
Or maybe she's being careful not to over-commit without having enough knowledge about the subject instead of just making crap up.
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Either way, ST's out of context nonsense painted Psaki as flippantly saying, "Well, we said not to come. This is what happens when you don't listen" as if she were condoning it. I just didn't want that to stand as she obviously condemned it, but did say they were gathering information.
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Either way, ST's out of context nonsense painted Psaki as flippantly saying, "Well, we said not to come. This is what happens when you don't listen" as if she were condoning it. I just didn't want that to stand as she obviously condemned it, but did say they were gathering information.
Clearly I was out of line. Psaki confirms that the administration has identified the problem at the border, which is horses.

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#BREAKING: Jen Psaki announces that horses will now be BANNED from being used in Del Rio by Border Patrol agents, citing the "horrible and horrific" use of them to prevent Haitian illegal immigrants from crossing into the U.S. https://t.co/hlyZeJVbU2
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/stat...436687872?s=19
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Clearly I was out of line. Psaki confirms that the administration has identified the problem at the border, which is horses.

https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/stat...436687872?s=19
Yeah, so I've already confirmed that the twitter sources you use have a tendency to be, what's the word I'm looking for, cherry picking ass hattery. Got anything else or are you ******* seriously getting your news from twitter now? I mean, seriously.

ETA:

Actually, upon reading an actual news source, it's not twitter but I'll post it here anyway, it looks like horses partly enabled the actual problem. It allowed the officers to chase the migrants down rather than confront them face-to-face on foot, and speak with them more plainly. It was also the lariats that they were using to hit the migrants. They're still investigating and speaking with the individual agents in the photos.

It appears they're trying to be proactive. GOD DAMN YOU PSAKI!!!!!!!!! #YAS #HASHTAG #TWITTERISMYNEWSSOURCE
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Clearly I was out of line. Psaki confirms that the administration has identified the problem at the border, which is horses.

https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/stat...436687872?s=19
That's why I admire her so much. Her ability to tackle the tough issues, and bring a certain amount of zany irreverence to the mix.

But, on a serious note, I hate to see her invoke "equine shaming", as has been common, historically.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Clearly I was out of line. Psaki confirms that the administration has identified the problem at the border, which is horses.



https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/stat...436687872?s=19
You are being dishonest there, ST. Psaki never said "the problem is horses".


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"The footage is extremely troubling and the facts learned from the full investigation, which will be conducted swiftly, will define the appropriate disciplinary actions to be taken," the spokesperson said.

"I have seen some of the footage. I don't have the full context. I can't imagine what context would make that appropriate, but I don't have additional details," she told reporters at the daily White House briefing. "I don't think anyone seeing that footage would think it's acceptable or appropriate."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bide...ry?id=80144223

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"I can't imagine what the scenario is where that would be appropriate, I'm certainly not suggesting that, but we've just seen the footage earlier this morning," she said. Asked if the agents seen in the footage should be fired for their actions in dealing with migrants, Psaki said: "Of course they should never be able to do it again."

"I don't know what the circumstances would be. It's obviously horrific, the footage. I don't have any more information on it, so let me venture to do that and we'll see if there's more to convey," she added.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/polit...deo/index.html

Those border agents involved have been put on desk duty.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
That's why I admire her so much. Her ability to tackle the tough issues, and bring a certain amount of zany irreverence to the mix.

But, on a serious note, I hate to see her invoke "equine shaming", as has been common, historically.
Once again, you jump to an erroneous conclusion before bothering to investigate the accuracy of the post you're responding to. Suburban Turkey misrepresented what Psaki said but it fit your bias, so.......
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Old 23rd September 2021, 04:22 PM   #34
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Clearly I was out of line. Psaki confirms that the administration has identified the problem at the border, which is horses.



https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/stat...436687872?s=19

No she didn't. What she confirmed is what the administration actually said and did. What does this have to do with her?
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No she didn't. What she confirmed is what the administration actually said and did. What does this have to do with her?
It has to do with her in that her job is to spin bad press for the administration. That's kinda been my whole point, it's weird that a "skeptics forum" would fawn over someone who has a job to massage the facts.
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It has to do with her in that her job is to spin bad press for the administration. That's kinda been my whole point, it's weird that a "skeptics forum" would fawn over someone who has a job to massage the facts.
Um, no. She reported what the admin did: it suspended the use of horses. That's not 'spinning'.
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Um, no. She reported what the admin did: it suspended the use of horses. That's not 'spinning'.
Horses were not the critical factor of the plain fact that border patrol agents were abusing human beings. Focusing on inconsequential factors is spin.
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Jen Psaki is clearly a sincere and wonderful person at her job. Remember the last administration?
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If anyone would like more information rather than a just random ass, out of context, incomplete quote from a journalist, here's another link. Sorry, I don't have a quip or hashtag to go with it, so I'll just quote some more context.
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White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Monday called images of a U.S. Border Patrol agent on horseback chasing Haitian migrants “horrific,”

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"I have seen some of the footage. I don't have the full context. I can't imagine what context would make that appropriate, but I don't have additional details," she told reporters at the daily White House briefing. "I don't think anyone seeing that footage would think it's acceptable or appropriate."

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She called footage of the incident "horrible to watch," but added "we just have to get more information on that" before she could comment further. Asked if the agent should be fired, she said, "Of course they should never be able to do it again."

She condemned it, but is definitely doing a bit of ass covering.

Any other dope quips or hashtags I missed, ST? Got any other out of context tweets to drop?
The worst aspect of this is, that if you wind back the clock a year or two to when the Trump immigration were tearing children away from their parents, and then locking them up in wire cages, the very same people like Peter Douchebag who are asking all the "tough" questions now, were utterly silent, and the networks they worked for had nothing but lame excuses for the Trump's reprehensible policies.
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Jen Psaki is clearly a sincere and wonderful person at her job. Remember the last administration?

Sarah Huckery-Sanders, and Kayliar McNinny?
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