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Old 24th October 2020, 08:14 AM   #441
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The so-called gravitational redshift of light is based on the fact that expanding lights work in space as they expand
No.

First off, gravitational red shift is different than cosmological red shift. Gravitational red shift happens when light moves from low gravitational potential to high gravitational potential, and it red shifts because time moves slower at lower gravitational potential. It has nothing to do with expanding space.

Cosmological red shift has nothing to do with gravitational potential, and is caused by expanding space. This is a different thing.

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The expanding light is constantly working as it expands, i.e., the expanding waves of expanding light push each other away from each other
No. Light doesn't push against light. That's why you can't bounce light off of other light. They don't interact like that.

Imagine a rubber band. Draw a wave on the rubber band. Now stretch the rubber band. What happens to the wavelength when you stretch the rubber band? It gets longer.

That's what cosmological red shift is like.

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The farther the expanding waves reach from the expanding star, the more they will be subjected to the pushing force of those expanding waves of light from other expanding stars.
No. The rate of cosmological red shift has nothing to do with how far away from any stars that light is. It's caused by the rate of expansion of space. Light that has traveled farther is more red shifted because it has spent more TIME being red shifted.

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As a result, the expanding wave going forward escapes the expanding waves protruding slightly behind and thus the expanding light is called. gravitational red shifts.
No. This is nonsense.

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Ok, we can study light moving in space scientifically and develop a scientific experiment that will prove whether this is the case or not.

But how do you study expanding space scientifically.
Buy me a new universe, and I'll show you.

Otherwise, we watch our existing universe and see what happens. We can see what happened billions of years ago up until now.
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Old 24th October 2020, 08:30 AM   #442
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I have 60 bucks here for anyone who can scientifically manipulate a red dwarf.

I believe that a Mrs Tasker was once accused of repeatedly pushing a number of red-bearded dwarfs into a hallway and leaving them there. Does that count?
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Old 25th October 2020, 02:49 AM   #443
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The so-called gravitational redshift of light is based on the fact that expanding lights work in space as they expand

So, the light expanding in space is called gravitational red moves from its initial journey as it protrudes away from the expanding star from which it originates.

The expanding light is constantly working as it expands, i.e., the expanding waves of expanding light push each other away from each other and at the same time away from the expanding star from which they originate.

The farther the expanding waves reach from the expanding star, the more they will be subjected to the pushing force of those expanding waves of light from other expanding stars.

As a result, the expanding wave going forward escapes the expanding waves protruding slightly behind and thus the expanding light is called. gravitational red shifts.

Ok, we can study light moving in space scientifically and develop a scientific experiment that will prove whether this is the case or not.

But how do you study expanding space scientifically.

How do you manipulate this so-called expanding space so that you get information about the success of the manipulation that proves the existence of expanding space?

Tell me.

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So, if you want to try to manipulate the trajectory of light expanding in space, you have to go far from Earth.

That is, space but a very long wall.

The width of the telescope mirror diameter.

In fact, the wall could be in the form of a gutter and then but at the other end of the gutter a telescope is used to detect a distant galaxy whose location is known.

The billions of years old space-expanding lights protruding from the open side towards the bottom of the gutter contain the kind of pushing force that collides with the expanding photons protruding towards the telescope in the gutter shield and thus the trajectory of these photons bends towards the bottom of the gutter.

Now the distant galaxy seems to be in a different place than it is known to be.

Ok, let’s tell the scientific where the expanding space has been attempted to be manipulated scientifically.

You can't do that.

So you can still believe in the existence of your Gods, i mean expanding space and curving space, but don’t push the gods of your sect to anyone scientifically proven.

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Old 25th October 2020, 03:09 AM   #444
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
So, if you want to try to manipulate the trajectory of light expanding in space, you have to go far from Earth.

That is, space but a very long wall.

The width of the telescope mirror diameter.

In fact, the wall could be in the form of a gutter and then but at the other end of the gutter a telescope is used to detect a distant galaxy whose location is known.

The billions of years old space-expanding lights protruding from the open side towards the bottom of the gutter contain the kind of pushing force that collides with the expanding photons protruding towards the telescope in the gutter shield and thus the trajectory of these photons bends towards the bottom of the gutter.

Now the distant galaxy seems to be in a different place than it is known to be.

Ok, let’s tell the scientific where the expanding space has been attempted to be manipulated scientifically.

You can't do that.

So you can still believe in the existence of your Gods, i mean expanding space and curving space, but don’t push the gods of your sect to anyone scientifically proven.

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And yet, the team from Cornell U led by PL Kelly were able to correctly predict the apparition of the supernova down to within few weeks, and without reference to any of the nonsensical, pseudo-scientific claptrap you are trying (and failing) to peddle on this forum!
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
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Ok, let’s tell the scientific where the expanding space has been attempted to be manipulated scientifically.

You can't do that.

...


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As has already been cited to you before.

White–Juday warp-field interferometer




So, have you actually tried that rope experiment as described yet?


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?

It would clearly demonstrate the difference between pulling and pushing forces. Particularly on materials that, well, react differently to such differing forces.

How do the observations of that experiment support your "point of view", particularly about there being no pulling forces?
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Old 25th October 2020, 01:45 PM   #446
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As has already been cited to you before.

White–Juday warp-field interferometer




So, have you actually tried that rope experiment as described yet?


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?

It would clearly demonstrate the difference between pulling and pushing forces. Particularly on materials that, well, react differently to such differing forces.

How do the observations of that experiment support your "point of view", particularly about there being no pulling forces?

"The White–Juday warp-field interferometer is an experiment designed to detect a microscopic instance of a warping of spacetime. If such a warp is detected, it is hoped that more research into creating an Alcubierre warp bubble will be inspired. A research team led by Harold "Sonny" White in collaboration with Dr. Richard Juday[1] at the NASA Johnson Space Center and Dakota State University was conducting experiments, but results were inconclusive. In 2014, it was contended that it was unable to detect any warp fields [2], and since then it appears the device has been abandoned or at least not in use for any published experiment over the last half decade"


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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
"The White–Juday warp-field interferometer is an experiment designed to detect a microscopic instance of a warping of spacetime. If such a warp is detected, it is hoped that more research into creating an Alcubierre warp bubble will be inspired. A research team led by Harold "Sonny" White in collaboration with Dr. Richard Juday[1] at the NASA Johnson Space Center and Dakota State University was conducting experiments, but results were inconclusive. In 2014, it was contended that it was unable to detect any warp fields [2], and since then it appears the device has been abandoned or at least not in use for any published experiment over the last half decade"


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Glad to see you looked at the article. You asked for "where the expanding space has been attempted to be manipulated scientifically" and you got a link that was given to you before, perhaps even over half a decade ago.
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Glad to see you looked at the article. You asked for "where the expanding space has been attempted to be manipulated scientifically" and you got a link that was given to you before, perhaps even over half a decade ago.
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Ghost hunting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_hunting

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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
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Ghost hunting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_hunting

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That link doesn't meet the requirements of your question.


While 'Zombie Thread' seems an apt descriptor of how this tread keeps popping back up and stumbling about aimlessly in search of some "BRRRAAIINNNZZZ".
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Expanding space is naked empire.

Ghost which dont exist.

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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
Expanding space is naked empire.

Ghost which dont exist.

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Stars don't exist either. You can't make a star in a laboratory.
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Exclamation More repeated lies from Pixie of key

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
1. You develop a scientific experiment in which you somehow manipulate an expanding space somehow....
The same total gibberish, ignorance, delusions and lies about science in this 11 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread
  • Pixie of key knows that we have already detected the expansion of spacetime from the "manipulations" that the universe has presented to us.
  • Pixie of key knows that the expansion of the universe cannot be detected locally e.g. in the Solar System because it does not happen locally. electromagnetic forces keep atoms, etc. from expanding. Gravity keeps the Solar System and galaxies from expanding.
  • Pixie of key is abysmally ignorant about science.
    We do not have to "manipulate" something in order to know it exists. We do not manipulate the Sun but it would be insane to say the Sun does not exist !
  • Pixie of key knows that the physical evidence of the expansion f the universe has been published for almost a century.
  • Pixie of key knows that those observations have been repeated many times.

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Exclamation Abysmally ignorant gibberish from Pixie of key about gravitational redshift

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The so-called gravitational redshift of light is based on the fact that expanding lights work in space as they expand ...
The same total gibberish, ignorance, delusions and lies about science in this 11 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread

Pixie of key's usual spate of lies, gibberish and abysmal ignorance.
  1. Gravitational redshift is actually called gravitational redshift because we do experiments that show it is redshift caused by gravity !
  2. Gravitational redshift is not based on the expansion of the universe. They are both predictions from general relativity that have been supported by physical evidence.
  3. Gravitational redshift is measured in experiments here on Earth.
    Anyone who knows about gravitational redshift knows the Pound–Rebka experiment.
  4. It is a lie that we detect gravitational redshift from exploding stars.
    We detect gravitational redshift in light from white dwarf stars.
  5. His usual idiotic "expanding/pushing/etc." gibberish.
    A fantasy of "waves" of light from an exploding star.
    A delusion that expensing waves of light from an exploding star "push" on each other. His fantasy will have separate waves.
    Abysmal ignorance about light which doe snot interact with itself so no "pushing".
    A lie that we detect the expansion of the universe with light from "exploding stars". The cosmological redshift is measured from the light of a galaxy. Variable stars, supernova and other techniques are used to measure the distance to those galaxies.
  6. A "we can" lie when only Pixie of key has these ignorant delusions about gravitational redshift
    [*}A "how do you study expanding space scientifically." when Pixie of key has known that answer for many years.
    We make predictions of what an expanding universe will do and have found for the last ~80 years that the empirical data we collect match those predictions .
  7. Pixie of key's stupid "manipulate" fantasy.
    We do not have a spare universe to experiment on !
    We cannot move galaxies around!
  8. A "Tell me" lie.
    Pixie of key has known the answer for many years.

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Exclamation Abysmally ignorant gibberish from Pixie of key about gravitational redshift

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With my mother language...
The same total gibberish, ignorance, delusions and lies about science in this 11 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread

Repeated abysmally ignorant gibberish from Pixie of key about gravitational redshift in his mother language.
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Exclamation As usual, Pixy of key writes ignorant gibberish unrelated to the real world.

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
So, if you want to try to manipulate the trajectory of light expanding in space, you have to go far from Earth. ...
The same total gibberish, ignorance, delusions and lies about science in this 11 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread

Pixy of key repeats his lie that we have to manipulate light in order to detect the expansion of the universe. Pixy of key has known for years that the universe does this for us.
Pixy of key writes idiotic gibberish about a "very long wall", "gutter" etc.
Pixy of key writes an abysmal lie that science is religion (" existence of your Gods")
Pixy of key writes a lie that he is someone "scientifically proven" when he has been spewing out ignorant, unsupported in the real world, gibberish for 11 years. Pixy of key even makes demands that show how idiotic his fantasies are - where are his experiments manipulating light from exploding stars !
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Expanding space is naked empire.

Ghost which dont exist.
The same total gibberish, ignorance, delusions and lies about science in this 11 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread

Pixy of key is lying because Pixy of key has known the empirical evidence for the expansion of the universe for many years. Endlessly repeating his lies about science does not make the real universe go away.
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Physicists still don’t realize that the problem with current small-scale and large-scale theories is precisely because they both contain a force that keeps the pieces close together.

1. Strong interaction

"Strong interactions (color force, strong force, strong nuclear power, sometimes also nuclear power) are the strongest of the three basic interactions in the standard model of particle physics. It binds quarks to hadrons. [1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_interaction

2. Curved space

"According to general relativity, the gravity observed between two bodies is due to the masses of the bodies curving space-time. In general relativity, therefore, gravity is interpreted as the curvature of space, that is, the change in the geometry of space."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relationality theory

And these forces can never be combined mathematically because they don’t really even exist !!!

No particle can transmit a pulling force. How could a particle do that? By hitting an object, it can only transmit its kinetic energy to the object, which would push the object where the particle itself was pushing.

Thus

https://youtu.be/WxWHm8V4lZo

So this is what we know !!! When a body of thrust impinges on another body of thrust, the scattering of the thrust / energy in both over a larger area of ​​space accelerates.

That is, the expanding pushing force is activated, it begins to take up space more quickly for itself, and at the same time applies a strong pushing force to its environment.

When that understanding is transferred to a small scale and one wonders what the expanding densities moving at the speed of expanding light cause to expanding quarks when they collide with expanding quarks in a continuous current from all directions,

understands that the expanding pushing force in expanding quarks in space explodes / dissipates all the time into a larger and larger area of ​​space.

Please watch this video again and for the first time reflect on this view with thought over time.

https://youtu.be/WxWHm8V4lZo

1.00 onwards.

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It seems that this view of mine may be too frightening. So it is a rather strange idea that one's own body would consist of densities that recycle explosive pushing force all the time, so that the "ever"-exploding pushing force in these expanding densities would change completely with time.

There is no way that can be?? Should we feel that in our body somehow?!? Isn't it?!? But how could that feel? Our expanding body was built of matter that has expanded in that way throughout its history ��

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Pixie of key. Failing to follow simple experiments since 2014.

So, have you actually tried that rope experiment as described yet?


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?

It would clearly demonstrate the difference between pulling and pushing forces. Particularly on materials that, well, react differently to such differing forces.

How do the observations of that experiment support your "point of view", particularly about there being no pulling forces?
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No particle can transmit a pulling force. How could a particle do that? By hitting an object, it can only transmit its kinetic energy to the object, which would push the object where the particle itself was pushing.
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...polite snip...

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It seems that this view of mine may be too frightening. So it is a rather strange idea that one's own body would consist of densities that recycle explosive pushing force all the time, so that the "ever"-exploding pushing force in these expanding densities would change completely with time.

There is no way that can be?? Should we feel that in our body somehow?!? Isn't it?!? But how could that feel? Our expanding body was built of matter that has expanded in that way throughout its history ��

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I doubt an assertion that 'I have framed my idea such that it is not falsifiable and basically has no measurable consequences' has ever frightened anyone it was presented to, nor is it actually all that strange around here.

By all means please, provide any evidence "these expanding densities would change completely with time". As already mentioned to you, if your 'everything is always expanding' is correct and density is not changing then space, or how we measure distances in space (the spatial metric) must also be expanding as well. In other words your assertions are less directly self-contradictory if space can expand as well.

Also, as I have mentioned here and on other related threads the idea that everything is expanding at the speed of light has been around on the internet since at least the late 90's. At least that's when I first encountered it. We've had two or three others touting that notion around here before. So it is not even exclusively your view. All suffer form the same problem, in order to comport with current evidence there must be no evidence directly related to the notion itself.
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Physicists still don’t realize that the problem with current small-scale and large-scale theories is precisely because they both contain a force that keeps the pieces close together.

1. Strong interaction

"Strong interactions (color force, strong force, strong nuclear power, sometimes also nuclear power) are the strongest of the three basic interactions in the standard model of particle physics.
What the heck are those? "color force, strong force, strong nuclear power, sometimes also nuclear power"

There are indeed 4 fundamental forces. None of them are those.

So what on earth are you talking about?
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What the heck are those? "color force, strong force, strong nuclear power, sometimes also nuclear power"

There are indeed 4 fundamental forces. None of them are those.

So what on earth are you talking about?
That text is in wikipedia. With finnish and i just using googletranslation.

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That text is in wikipedia. With finnish and i just using googletranslation.

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While that is indeed a google translation of the text immediately preceding reference "[1]" in the Suomi language version of that article.

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In nuclear physics and particle physics, the strong interaction is the mechanism responsible for the strong nuclear force, and is one of the four known fundamental interactions, with the others being electromagnetism, the weak interaction, and gravitation. At the range of 10−15 m (1 femtometer), the strong force is approximately 137 times as strong as electromagnetism, a million times as strong as the weak interaction, and 1038 times as strong as gravitation.[1]
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Physicists still don’t realize that the problem with current small-scale and large-scale theories is precisely because they both contain a force that keeps the pieces close together.
The same total gibberish, ignorance, delusions and lies about science in this 11 year old Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark? thread

More lies from Pixie of key about science and the real world. The real world is not a problem ! We measure forces such as gravity, electromagnetism, the strong interaction and the weak interaction.

An idiotic "they don’t really even exist" lie - we measure that these forces exist.
An idiotic "No particle can transmit a pulling force" lie - we measure that these pulling forces exist. Children know that magnets pull. Children know that the pull their toys with strings. Children know that they cannot push a toy with a rope.

Deluded citations of a Apophis in 2029 or 2036 when the paths of asteroids are calculated using pulling gravity . Also deluded because this is 99942 Apophis. By the time of this video (Nov 25, 2008) an impact has been ruled out.
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Small size of the Antarctic sea ice, the record-breaking hurricane season post to be

The warm autumn, the small size of the Antarctic sea ice and the record-breaking hurricane season would have been predictable as early as April 28?!?

A fast radio burst flashed by a billion Suns was traced to a Milky Way neutron star - “Magnetar theory” confirmed

https://tekniikanmaailma.fi/miljardi...i-vahvistusta/

"" MAGNETAR THEORY was not supported by previous magnetar observations of our own galaxy, as the energy they released was significantly weaker than FRBs from other galaxies. ""

That's interesting.

What about when most of the energy released is released as dark energy, i.e. energy that our devices cannot register?

Over a sufficiently long distance, could such dark energy, due to the entropy it experiences, expand into a registrable energy / pushing force?

How much energy did the center of the Earth receive from, for example, the energy pulse observed on December 27, which came from a magnetic star in our own galaxy?

So if only a fraction of that energy pulse was observed and most of it was dark energy for us?

What caused the tsunami and earthquake on December 26, 2004

https://youtu.be/UDLDU10O7uI

The excitement that 2005 was a record year in terms of the number of designated hurricanes, as well as a record number of powerful hurricanes.

Do you still remember Emily, Katrina, Rita and Wilma?

All category 5 hurricanes.

And December was that very powerful energy pulse that modern physics can’t associate with the Asian earthquake and tsunami about a day earlier.

Excited by chance or anyway but "coincidence"?

Watch the video and wonder.

https://youtu.be/UDLDU10O7uI

��

"Scientists base their findings on the exceptionally intense rapid radio burst observed on April 28, which came from the direction of a well-known magnetar."

By the way, were there also a record number of named storms this autumn and also a record number of hurricanes?

For the first time since 2005 so much?!?

��

It's been pretty warm, too.

Indeed, have you paid attention to how warm it has been?

And Antarctic sea ice has been at its lowest since the fall of 2012.

The thrill is that in January 2012 it was the series of powerful Solar Eruptions that had a big impact on the Earth’s magnetic field and in July 2012 it was the 150th most powerful Solar Eruption.

And the canopy canopy, just then in the fall of 2012 the Antarctic sea ice reached a record low.

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Thus, a massive solar storm struck the ground

"On 17 January 2012, a few days after a huge mass eruption in the sun, the eruption had a strong impact on the earth's magnetic field.

The University of New Hampshire is currently investigating the phenomenon. What makes it rare is that as a result of the mass eruption, there were energy particles in space that migrated towards the earth as a result of the solar eruption.

In space, interference can cause problems with electrical networks, satellites, navigation systems, and other devices. Flight routes may also need to be changed. Astronauts outside the Earth's atmosphere can also be in danger.

The solar eruption that took place now was very close in intensity to the x-class, which is the strongest possible level of a solar storm. The impact was increased by a series of eruptions. "

http://www.co2-raportti.fi/?page=ilm...a&news_id=3295

And in July, so this

Nasa: Unknowingly, we averted a global catastrophe in July 2012 - the biggest solar storm in 150 years didn't hit

https://www.tekniikkatalous.fi/uutis...c-25ce3d3f62ac

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Detection of a short, intense radio burst in Milky Way

https://phys.org/news/2020-11-short-...dio-milky.html

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YES YES YES!!!!

Expanding galaxies was born centre / inside to outside!!!

Of course!!!

Curving space is naked empire!!!

Expanding space is also naked empire!!!

First Ever Large Survey of Distant Galaxies Yields Surprises for Astrophysicists

https://scitechdaily.com/first-ever-...trophysicists/


"ALMA can quantify dust, a sign of maturity in galaxies, and cold gas, which provides information about their rate of growth and the number of stars they can form, as well as the motion of this gas, thus revealing the dynamics of galaxies. And this turned up some surprising data.

For a start, the observed galaxies proved to be very rich not only in cold gas, which fuels star formation, but also in dust, which is thought to be a by-product of stars at the end of their lives. So despite their young age, these galaxies had apparently seen the formation and death of a first generation of stars!

The galaxies surveyed also exhibit an astonishing diversity of shapes: some are disordered, others already have a rotating disc that may end up as a spiral structure like the Milky Way, while yet others have been spotted in the process of merging.

Another surprising observation is that certain galaxies appear to be ejecting gas, forming mysterious haloes around them."

Why that happening

"Another surprising observation is that certain galaxies appear to be ejecting gas, forming mysterious haloes around them."

It happening because when two expanding supermassive concentrations collide togerher, there is expanding dark matter which start expanding very very fast and then born new expanding stars quickly and also, of course, new expanding material like gas.

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Guess we're catching up to the world.
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I predict that Jupiter’s red dot / spot will intensify over the next year. Or Jupiter gets himself another storm. This was the case in 2006. With a delay of a little over a year, after a strong energy pulse from a magnetar came into the solar system in December 2004.

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Well. We live in interesting times.

The first was that energy from the magnetic star discharge on April 28 this year.

Then Jupiter was just in the area between the Sun and the supermassive object of the center of the galaxy, and right now in the area between the Sun and Saturn.

It is therefore very easy to predict that clear signs will be observed in Jupiter's atmosphere due to these events.

After the December 2004 energy pulse, the delay was a little over a year and then Red Spot Jr. appeared on Jupiter.

So nothing more than waiting for what to come pushes.

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After all, significant changes have already taken place there. Om it's just exciting that these coincidences always come out.

😮😮😮

After an energy pulse on December 27, 2004, the delay was a little over a year and then Red Spot Jr. appeared on Jupiter in early 2006.

Apparently the smaller storms merged into another red dot.

But yeah, the delays are now known and this is how one can expect how the storms of Jupiter will develop more strongly.

There is even more energy available to the center of Jupiter from Neptune in 2022 and from Uranus in 2024

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This, too, is very interesting

Solar Storm of 2012

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_2012

The solar Storm of 2012 was an unusually large and strong coronal mass ejection (CME) event that occurred on July 23 that year. It missed the Earth with a margin of approximately nine days, as the Equator of the Sun rotates around its own axis with a period of about 25 days. [1] The region that produced the outburst was thus not pointed directly towards the Earth at that time. The strength of the eruption was comparable to the 1859 Carrington event that caused damage to electrical equipment worldwide, which at that time consisted Mostly of Telegraph systems. [2]

So, pretty rabbit coincidences these yeah 😃😃😃

December 27, 2004 The solar system has a really powerful energy pulse inside the Sun and the planets.

In the fall of 2005, four Category 5 hurricanes off the east coast of the United States.

2005 In the sun there seems to be at least one very strong eruption so that the next time as powerful only in March 2012. January 2012 was also a strong solar eruption and in July 2012 the 150th strongest.

Do you remember the events of March 2011 in Japan?!?

Not that a lot of unregistered expanding dark energy / pushing force pushed into the Solar System even then, causing its Japanese tsunami and earthquake?!?

So that that energy also pushed inside other planets and the Sun, etc.

❤️

No niin. Elämme mielenkiintoisia aikoja.

Ensinnäkin oli tuo magnetartähden purkauksesta peräisin oleva energia tämän vuoden huhtikuun 28 päivä.

Sitten Jupiter oli vast ikään Auringon ja galaksin keskustan supermassiivisen kohteen välisellä alueella ja juuri nyt Auringon ja Saturnuksen välisellä alueella.

Onkin hyvin helppo ennustaa että Jupiterin kaasukehässä tullaan havaitsemaan näiden tapahtumien takia selkeitä merkkejä.

2004 joulukuun energiapulssin jälkeen viive oli vähän yli vuosi ja sitten Jupiteriin ilmestyi Red Spot Jr.

Joten eipä muuta kuin odotellaan mitä tuleman työntyy.

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Siellähän onkin jo tapahtunut merkittäviä muutoksia. Om se vaan jännä että näitä sattumia työntyy esiin aina vaan.

😮😮😮

2004 joulukuun 27 päivän energiapulssin jälkeen viive oli vähän yli vuosi ja sitten Jupiteriin ilmestyi 2006 alkuvuodesta Red Spot Jr.

Ilmeisesti pienemmät myrskyt yhdistyivät toiseksi punaiseksi pilkuksi.

Mutta joo, viiveet on nyt tiedossa ja näin voidaan odotella miten Jupiterin myrskyt kehittyvät voimakkaammiksi.

Tuossa on vielä lisäenergiaa tarjolla Jupiterin keskustaan Neptunukselta vuonna 2022 ja Uranukselta vuonna 2024

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Tämäkin erittäin mielenkiintoista

25.03.2012 | Sakari Nummila

Aurinkomyrsky pumppasi Maan ilmakehään 26 miljardia kilowattituntia energiaa
Maaliskuun 8.-10. päivinä riehunut aurinkomyrsky toi maapallon yläilmakehään yhtä paljon energiaa kuin New Yorkin asukkaat käyttävät kahdessa vuodessa. Suomessa tapahtuma näkyi komeina revontulina.

https://www.avaruus.fi/uutiset/maa-j...-energiaa.html

""Tämä oli suurin lämpöannos, minkä olemme saaneet aurinkomyrskystä sitten vuoden 2005", väittää Martin Mlynczak Nasasta. "Se oli suuri tapahtuma, ja näytti miten Auringon aktiivisuus voi suoraan vaikuttaa planeettaamme."

Niin, aika jänskiä sattumia nämä joo 😃😃😃

2004 joulukuun 27 Aurinkokuntaan todella voimakas energiapulssi jota Auringon ja planeettojen sisälle.

2005 syksyllä neljä 5 kategorian hurrikaania USAn itärannikolla.

2005 Auringossa näköjään ainakin yksi erittäin voimakas purkaus siten että seuraavan kerran yhtä voimakas vasta vuonna 2012 maaliskuussa.

Muistatteko 2011 maaliskuun tapahtumat Japanissa?!?

Ettei vaan Aurinkokuntaan työntynyt silloinkin paljon rekisteröimätöntä laajenevaa pimeää energiaa / työntävää voimaa, saaden aikaan sen Japanin tsunamin ja maanjäristyksen?!?

Siten että tuota energiaa työntyi myös muiden planeettojen ja Auringon sisälle jne.

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Pixie of key. Failing to follow simple experiments since 2014.

So, have you actually tried that rope experiment as described yet?


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?

It would clearly demonstrate the difference between pulling and pushing forces. Particularly on materials that, well, react differently to such differing forces.

How do the observations of that experiment support your "point of view", particularly about there being no pulling forces?
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"This burst in less than a second contained about the same amount of energy that our sun produces in a month, and still that's far weaker than the radio bursts detected coming from outside our galaxy, said Caltech radio astronomer Christopher Bochenek. He helped spot the burst with handmade antennas."

https://phys.org/news/2020-11-luck-a...io-source.html

That says it all.

The closer such an energy pulse originates, the less entropy has had time to affect the expansive densities in which the pulse consists.

Therefore, it is for the most part unregistered dark expanding energy / pushing force for us.

But within the planets and the Sun, an expanding pushing force pushes inside them, internal pressure increases, and they begin to collide with the expanding nuclei of atoms in the centers of the objects, and so on.

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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
The warm autumn, the small size of the Antarctic sea ice and the record-breaking hurricane season would have been predictable as early as April 28?!?

I recall the predicted results of global warming being well before April 28.


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A fast radio burst flashed by a billion Suns was traced to a Milky Way neutron star - “Magnetar theory” confirmed

https://tekniikanmaailma.fi/miljardi...i-vahvistusta/

"" MAGNETAR THEORY was not supported by previous magnetar observations of our own galaxy, as the energy they released was significantly weaker than FRBs from other galaxies. ""

That's interesting.
Yes new observations can often support already existing theories. Heck, they could also support theories that don't exist yet, but there would be no way to know about that now.

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post

What about when most of the energy released is released as dark energy, i.e. energy that our devices cannot register?
Exactly what Magnetar theory projects them releasing dark energy?

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Over a sufficiently long distance, could such dark energy, due to the entropy it experiences, expand into a registrable energy / pushing force?
Dark energy is already the place holder for the cause of the acceleration of the metric expansion of the universe.

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How much energy did the center of the Earth receive from, for example, the energy pulse observed on December 27, which came from a magnetic star in our own galaxy?
Not much, heck even ground penetrating radar only goes down about 100 feet in non-conductive materials.

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So if only a fraction of that energy pulse was observed and most of it was dark energy for us?
Again that is not what the term dark energy represents, it doesn't mean energy simply too weak to measure. Further, since dark energy does represent the cause of the accelerating metric expansion of the universe. By asserting it you are in fact asserting an accelerating metric expansion of the universe. As you have asserted there is no metric expansion, let alone accelerating expansion, the assertion of dark energy would be contradictory to those previous assertions.

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What caused the tsunami and earthquake on December 26, 2004

https://youtu.be/UDLDU10O7uI
Plate Tectonics.

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The excitement that 2005 was a record year in terms of the number of designated hurricanes, as well as a record number of powerful hurricanes.

Do you still remember Emily, Katrina, Rita and Wilma?

All category 5 hurricanes.

And December was that very powerful energy pulse that modern physics can’t associate with the Asian earthquake and tsunami about a day earlier.

Excited by chance or anyway but "coincidence"?

Watch the video and wonder.

https://youtu.be/UDLDU10O7uI

��

"Scientists base their findings on the exceptionally intense rapid radio burst observed on April 28, which came from the direction of a well-known magnetar."

By the way, were there also a record number of named storms this autumn and also a record number of hurricanes?

For the first time since 2005 so much?!?

��

It's been pretty warm, too.

Indeed, have you paid attention to how warm it has been?

And Antarctic sea ice has been at its lowest since the fall of 2012.
Again projected long ago due to global warming .


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The thrill is that in January 2012 it was the series of powerful Solar Eruptions that had a big impact on the Earth’s magnetic field and in July 2012 it was the 150th most powerful Solar Eruption.

And the canopy canopy, just then in the fall of 2012 the Antarctic sea ice reached a record low.

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The NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, tracks such solar activity and its potential impact on the Earth and surrounding satellites. Know as space weather.


https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/
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YES YES YES!!!!

Expanding galaxies was born centre / inside to outside!!!

Of course!!!

Curving space is naked empire!!!

Expanding space is also naked empire!!!

First Ever Large Survey of Distant Galaxies Yields Surprises for Astrophysicists

https://scitechdaily.com/first-ever-...trophysicists/


"ALMA can quantify dust, a sign of maturity in galaxies, and cold gas, which provides information about their rate of growth and the number of stars they can form, as well as the motion of this gas, thus revealing the dynamics of galaxies. And this turned up some surprising data.

For a start, the observed galaxies proved to be very rich not only in cold gas, which fuels star formation, but also in dust, which is thought to be a by-product of stars at the end of their lives. So despite their young age, these galaxies had apparently seen the formation and death of a first generation of stars!

The galaxies surveyed also exhibit an astonishing diversity of shapes: some are disordered, others already have a rotating disc that may end up as a spiral structure like the Milky Way, while yet others have been spotted in the process of merging.

Another surprising observation is that certain galaxies appear to be ejecting gas, forming mysterious haloes around them."

Why that happening

"Another surprising observation is that certain galaxies appear to be ejecting gas, forming mysterious haloes around them."

It happening because when two expanding supermassive concentrations collide togerher, there is expanding dark matter which start expanding very very fast and then born new expanding stars quickly and also, of course, new expanding material like gas.

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MOPE, NOPE, NOPE.

The very paragraphs you quote demonstrate the cited article supports the nebular condensation notion of galaxy formation and not that "galaxies was born centre / inside to outside!"

Again, if even just your quotations from your citations clearly demonstrate they don't claim what you assert. I again recommend, you read your quotations and citations more thoroughly, work to find citations actually reflective of your assertions or simply make better assertions.
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"This burst in less than a second contained about the same amount of energy that our sun produces in a month, and still that's far weaker than the radio bursts detected coming from outside our galaxy, said Caltech radio astronomer Christopher Bochenek. He helped spot the burst with handmade antennas."

https://phys.org/news/2020-11-luck-a...io-source.html

That says it all.

The closer such an energy pulse originates, the less entropy has had time to affect the expansive densities in which the pulse consists.

Therefore, it is for the most part unregistered dark expanding energy / pushing force for us.

But within the planets and the Sun, an expanding pushing force pushes inside them, internal pressure increases, and they begin to collide with the expanding nuclei of atoms in the centers of the objects, and so on.

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A continually increasing internal pressure within the sun would disrupt its hydrostatic equilibrium. The sun would quite obviously and detectably be expanding. That is unless some other attractive force like gravity countered the expansive force. Now before you go and assert that your "pushing force pushes" the outside in as well as the inside out. That would simply mean is is self canceling and results in no net force on the sun at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrostatic_equilibrium
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I predict that Jupiter’s red dot / spot will intensify over the next year. Or Jupiter gets himself another storm. This was the case in 2006. With a delay of a little over a year, after a strong energy pulse from a magnetar came into the solar system in December 2004.

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Yes yes.

It already happening for Jupiter.

Same thing what happend after 2004 december.

Hubble captures crisp new portrait of Jupiter's storms

https://phys.org/news/2020-09-hubble...jupiter-1.html

"This latest image of Jupiter, taken by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope on Aug. 25, 2020, was captured when the planet was 406 million miles from Earth. Hubble's sharp view is giving researchers an updated weather report on the monster planet's turbulent atmosphere, including a remarkable new storm brewing, and a cousin of the famous Great Red Spot region gearing up to change color—again."

Entäs tämä 😮😮😮

"Another feature researchers are noticing has changed is Oval BA, nicknamed by astronomers as Red Spot Jr., which appears just below the Great Red Spot in this image. For the past few years, Red Spot Jr. has been fading in color to its original shade of white after appearing red in 2006. However, now the core of this storm appears to be darkening slightly. This could hint that Red Spot Jr. is on its way to turning to a color more similar to its cousin once again."

Lue ajatuksella.

"For the past few years, Red Spot Jr. has been fading in color to its original shade of white after appearing red in 2006. However, now the core of this storm appears to be darkening slightly. This could hint that Red Spot Jr. is on its way to turning to a color more similar to its cousin once again."

Interesting to see how much this Jupiter storms getting stonger.

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Eight years ago today—on Dec. 27, 2004—the Earth was rocked by a cosmic blast so epic its scale is nearly impossible to exaggerate.

https://slate.com/technology/2012/12...r-27-2004.html

"The flood of gamma and X-rays that washed over the Earth was detected by several satellites designed to observe the high-energy skies. RHESSI, which observes the Sun, saw this blast. INTEGRAL, used to look for gamma rays from monster black holes, saw this blast. The newly-launched Swift satellite, which was designed and built to detect bursts of gamma-ray from across the Universe, not only saw this blast but was so flooded with energy its detectors completely saturated—think of it as trying to fill a drinking glass with a fire hose. Even more amazingly, Swift wasn’t even pointed anywhere near the direction of the burst: In other words, this flood of energy passed right through the body of the spacecraft itself and was still so strong it totally overwhelmed the cameras."

There was also lot of dark expanding pushing force for expanding Earth, expanding Jupiter and other expanding planets.

Also for expanding Sun.

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There was also lot of dark expanding pushing force for expanding Earth, expanding Jupiter and other expanding planets.

Also for expanding Sun.

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See, there you go, don't try to co-opt words and phrases that already mean what you explicitly don't wan to say. Instead come up with words and phrases that express your intended meaning.

Again, what evidence is there that any of these bodies are actually expanding? With no evidence of expansion there is no evidence of an "expanding pushing force", "dark" or otherwise. Heck, your own apparent use of the term "dark" appears to be reflective of your understanding that there is not any direct evidence for such an "expanding pushing force"
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New feature found in energy spectrum of universe's most powerful particles

https://phys.org/news/2020-10-featur...-powerful.html

"Previously, scientists thought these ultra-high-energy cosmic ray particles were mostly protons of hydrogen, but this latest analysis confirms that the particles have a mix of nuclei—some heavier than oxygen or helium, such as silicon and iron, for example."

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That is, the supermassive objects in the centers of the galaxies expand and "radiate" expanding dark matter.

A small portion of the expanding dark matter protruding from the expanding supermassive objects in the centers of the galaxies expands into a detectable detectable substance.

This if the expanding particle / density of the expanding dark matter accidentally is directed into the Earth's atmosphere as it enters directly into the nucleus of some atomic atmosphere and still happens to collide with a quark there.

It then expands into a detectable substance and can be registered.

That is, these expanding densities of expanding dark matter protrude through the expanding Earth in zillions and a small portion stops inside the expanding Earth.

In this way, the Earth, which is expanding in space, is gradually gaining more space-expanding matter in its center.

This explains the perceived expansion that the space-expanding Earth has experienced throughout its history.

In addition to this, there is, of course, expansion due to the expansion of matter itself, so that the expanding nuclei of atoms recycle an expanding pushing force that has e.g. the nature of the expanding light.

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