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Old 22nd November 2022, 12:29 PM   #201
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I'll let you know if the GOP ever does any work for the American People.
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Old 22nd November 2022, 12:31 PM   #202
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
Also wasn't crime supposedly out of control at some point recently? I guess all these problems that Republicans have been harping on for months just magically solved themselves after the election, and now we can move on to the really important issues.

It's like the magically disappearing immigrant caravans.
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Old 22nd November 2022, 07:01 PM   #203
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Now, now, people...I'm 100% positive that, if one of Trump's children had been proved to have committed a crime, that our resident conservatives would have been howling for Trump's resignation. Right? Right? Hello?
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Now, now, people...I'm 100% positive that, if one of Trump's children had been proved to have committed a crime, that our resident conservatives would have been howling for Trump's resignation. Right? Right? Hello?

I think it would depend on how complicit Trump was in the matter. Besides, we don't need Biden to resign...we just need to smear him a bit.
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Old 22nd November 2022, 07:13 PM   #205
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
I think it would depend on how complicit Trump was in the matter.
No, it wouldn't.

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Besides, we don't need Biden to resign...we just need to smear him a bit.
Of course you do. Thanks for being so honest about it.
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Old 23rd November 2022, 02:10 AM   #206
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Well, they need to start digging up some dirt...2024 is quickly approaching.
No they don't.

I recently saw a clip featuring a couple of former republicans talking about how the republicans are handling Hunter Biden. They both said the same thing... "What is the GOP doing?". Rather than bring up policy suggestions that might actually improved people's lives, they are about to try to engage in character assassination, which many voters just don't care for.

One of them compared the situation to the way the GOP handled Bill Clinton. They too thought they could tarnish Clinton. But after the impeachment, after all their attempts to embarrass him, he ends up leaving office with an approval rating of >60%.

See: MSN
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Old 23rd November 2022, 02:18 AM   #207
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
No they don't.

I recently saw a clip featuring a couple of former republicans talking about how the republicans are handling Hunter Biden. They both said the same thing... "What is the GOP doing?". Rather than bring up policy suggestions that might actually improved people's lives, they are about to try to engage in character assassination, which many voters just don't care for.

One of them compared the situation to the way the GOP handled Bill Clinton. They too thought they could tarnish Clinton. But after the impeachment, after all their attempts to embarrass him, he ends up leaving office with an approval rating of >60%.

See: MSN
On the other hand, Trump just keeps tarnishing himself.
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Old 23rd November 2022, 05:31 AM   #208
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
No they don't.

I recently saw a clip featuring a couple of former republicans talking about how the republicans are handling Hunter Biden. They both said the same thing... "What is the GOP doing?". Rather than bring up policy suggestions that might actually improved people's lives, they are about to try to engage in character assassination, which many voters just don't care for.

One of them compared the situation to the way the GOP handled Bill Clinton. They too thought they could tarnish Clinton. But after the impeachment, after all their attempts to embarrass him, he ends up leaving office with an approval rating of >60%.

See: MSN

I don't know. A little dirt can go a long way. Look at the rewards in 2016, for example.
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Old 23rd November 2022, 05:38 AM   #209
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I don't know. A little dirt can go a long way. Look at the rewards in 2016, for example.
Only if your target electorate gives a **** about that kind of thing.

It seems that a small amount of dirt is sufficient to persuade enough potential Democratic Party voters to stay at home or vote for someone else to influence the outcome of the election.

It seems to take a lot of dirt to do the same for GOP voters.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
I don't know. A little dirt can go a long way. Look at the rewards in 2016, for example.
I'm still not clear on how throwing dirt on Clinton covered up Trump's personal mud bath. I don't think think that trick will work twice though.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
I don't know. A little dirt can go a long way. Look at the rewards in 2016, for example.
Much different dynamics.

In 2016 neither candidate was an incumbent. Furthermore, in 2016 there were at least some issues at play. Granted, the ideas pushed by Trump were largely racist, but people could at least decide on the merits of his policies.

What republicans did against Clinton (and what they are doing with Biden) is trying to make integrity the central focus, with issues of policy all but pushed to the side.
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I forget if I've posted this before, but a quick search says I didn't do it in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
I don't know. A little dirt can go a long way. Look at the rewards in 2016, for example.
Lying and innunendo and skulduggery can cause a lot of damage, and one can say the damage is a reward to the liar, but in the big picture, which I seem to recall some are fond of, a result is not always a reward.
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Now, now, people...I'm 100% positive that, if one of Trump's children had been proved to have committed a crime, that our resident conservatives would have been howling for Trump's resignation. Right? Right? Hello?
It's only wrong if a lib/Democrat does it. Our resident righties have been very clear on that.

It's ok that Trump instigated a potential coup and insurrection, but heaven forbid that Hunter Biden may have done something wrong and had a laptop! One party conservative rule NOW!
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Old 24th November 2022, 06:45 PM   #215
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Musk teases releasing details of Twitter censoring Hunter Biden's laptop: 'Necessary to restore public trust'
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Twitter CEO Elon Musk teased on Wednesday that he might release more information on how the social media company censored the Hunter Biden laptop story during the 2020 presidential election.

News personality Alex Lorusso asked followers to "raise your hand" if they supported making "all internal discussions about the decision to censor the @NYPost's story on Hunter Biden’s laptop" public.

Musk responded, "This is necessary to restore public trust."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/musk-t...e-public-trust

I'm just sayin'. It has been speculated that leftist media conspired to suppress the story, so that there would not be a repeat of 2016. Could it be true?
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Old 24th November 2022, 07:39 PM   #216
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Musk teases releasing details of Twitter censoring Hunter Biden's laptop: 'Necessary to restore public trust'
Iím not sure what Musk could possibly do to restore public trust.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
Musk teases releasing details of Twitter censoring Hunter Biden's laptop: 'Necessary to restore public trust'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/musk-t...e-public-trust

I'm just sayin'. It has been speculated that leftist media conspired to suppress the story, so that there would not be a repeat of 2016. Could it be true?
Hmmmm... Trump 'teasing' releasing so many things in "two weeks" that he never did comes to mind.
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Iím not sure what Musk could possibly do to restore public trust.
It depends on the 'details' that were to be released.

If what he releases are internal discussions like "How dumb do you have to be to believe this bunk? Should we post anything about his laptop given the broken chain of custody and obvious corrupted files?" then maybe posting the details about the "censoring" of the laptop story might be useful.
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I've been involved on the talk page of the laptop article in Wikipedia about a year ago. It has since then shaped up well.
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In March 2022, The Washington Post published the findings of two forensic information analysts it had retained to examine 217 gigabytes of data provided to the paper on a hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey, who represented that its contents came from the laptop. One of the analysts characterized the data as a "disaster" from a forensics standpoint. The analysts found that people other than Hunter Biden had repeatedly accessed and copied data for nearly three years; they also found evidence that people other than Biden had accessed and written files to the drive, both before and after the New York Post story.
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It depends on the 'details' that were to be released.

If what he releases are internal discussions like "How dumb do you have to be to believe this bunk? Should we post anything about his laptop given the broken chain of custody and obvious corrupted files?" then maybe posting the details about the "censoring" of the laptop story might be useful.

What if he releases internal discussions like, "We don't want to promote this and foster another situation like the HRC email scandal that cost her the election in 2016".

People who think that Hunter and the "The Big Guy" could not have some dirt on them are quite naive, imo.
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
It depends on the 'details' that were to be released.

If what he releases are internal discussions like "How dumb do you have to be to believe this bunk? Should we post anything about his laptop given the broken chain of custody and obvious corrupted files?" then maybe posting the details about the "censoring" of the laptop story might be useful.
Even then, would you trust Musk to not use Twitter solely for his own purposes?
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People who think that Hunter and the "The Big Guy" could not have some dirt on them are quite naive, imo.
Quite the strawman, akin to conspiracy theorists who go "You're all sheeple! You think the government would never do anything bad!" when you don't believe their idiocy.

It's not that people have a hard time believing that anyone could have some dirt on them. It's that they can see when Republicans are scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to come up with anything they can use to smear the POTUS. It was inevitable that the Republicans would go after Biden once they took the House, no matter what excuse they had. What else are they going to do, actually govern? Hah!
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What if he releases internal discussions like, "We don't want to promote this and foster another situation like the HRC email scandal that cost her the election in 2016".

People who think that Hunter and the "The Big Guy" could not have some dirt on them are quite naive, imo.
OK, follow the money. What is Biden's net worth? It is estimated at 8 million. how much came from "China"?

Hunter Biden is broke. You might google and find 230 million. Nice round number, could be real. I think his net worth is less than 5 million and he does have some debt as well.
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Quite the strawman, akin to conspiracy theorists who go "You're all sheeple! You think the government would never do anything bad!" when you don't believe their idiocy.

Come on, now.

How do you think Disco Dope Fiend got his position at Burisma? I mean, it doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to figure there my be some damning evidence related to the contents of that laptop. And it takes even less to imagine that the story was suppressed in order to protect Biden in the election. Of course the GOP should pursue this and try to smear Biden with it.
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Come on, now.

How do you think Disco Dope Fiend got his position at Burisma? I mean, it doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to figure there my be some damning evidence related to the contents of that laptop. And it takes even less to imagine that the story was suppressed in order to protect Biden in the election. Of course the GOP should pursue this and try to smear Biden with it.
I certainly agree with your assessment that people pushing and buying into this narrative lack cognitive capacity.

But I guess Republicans need to do something with their slim majority in the House. Itís not like theyíre going to govern or have any actual policies to help the American people.
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Come on, now.

How do you think Disco Dope Fiend got his position at Burisma? I mean, it doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to figure there my be some damning evidence related to the contents of that laptop. And it takes even less to imagine that the story was suppressed in order to protect Biden in the election. Of course the GOP should pursue this and try to smear Biden with it.
How did the ex-president of Poland get a post at Burisma? He is not even a lawyer. Burisma had some PR problems and the CEO had his own problems. Hiring two foreigners for the board was to boost the image of the company. For stock holders.
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How did the ex-president of Poland get a post at Burisma? He is not even a lawyer. Burisma had some PR problems and the CEO had his own problems. Hiring two foreigners for the board was to boost the image of the company. For stock holders.

Is that what you would portray this as, "Hiring two foreigners"? Yeah, Ok.

I'm anxious to see what the GOP can dig up, and also what Musk might have related to suppression of the story.
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Typical CT logic: "I know there is evidence somewhere. Here is somewhere, so the evidence must be here."
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Is that what you would portray this as, "Hiring two foreigners"? Yeah, Ok.

I'm anxious to see what the GOP can dig up, and also what Musk might have related to suppression of the story.
Considering the GOP has had the laptop data for three years I don't think they are gonna dig up anything new.
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The laptop is equivalent to the stolen election CT. Always innuendo, never evidence to take to court.
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Hooray! After three and a half years of intense investigation, Republicans have proven that Hunter Biden owned a laptop...

Don't forget there is verified "data" on it! Can't wait to see the "data"!

It doesn't matter. Many Republicans don't need the truth, they just need to know that "data" was found so they can tell all their friends and add it to their list of memorized bullet points.

"Hey you hear about the Hunter data?"

"Ya, stupid Pelosi sanctuary jerkoff baby killers."

"Exactly! High five!"

That's about as intelligent as it gets.
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I, for one, look forward to pro-Second Amendment GQP representatives sending an indictment recommendation to DOJ on the only crime there is any actual evidence of Hunter breaking: lying on a gun permit application.

That mental dissonance should be fun to watch play out.
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Is that what you would portray this as, "Hiring two foreigners"? Yeah, Ok.

I'm anxious to see what the GOP can dig up, and also what Musk might have related to suppression of the story.
Yes, because when I think competence and legal acumen, I think Republicans and Elon Musk.
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Hunter Biden laptop investigation: the new Durham report.
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