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Old 12th August 2022, 02:10 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Listen we need to have a real talk here. If it comes down to it, we're screwed.

Listen I love and adore my liberal friends. They are kind and wonderful and smart and caring and the world is a better place for them being in it.

What they are NOT is scary or threatening or tough. Nobody is scared of people who posts memes about how they can't order their own pizza because of anxiety.

At least the Right can still fire a gun from their mobility scooters.
Civil War II: The Battle of the Mobility Scooters.
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Presumably these are gas-powered mobility scooters? It's got to be hard to keep up your MAGA-cred on a battery-powered one.
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Old 12th August 2022, 02:35 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
That won't be hard they surround me here in Kentucky by the Thousands.
“Sir, do you know they’ve cut us off? We’re entirely surrounded.”
“Those poor bastards,” Puller said. “They’ve got us right where we want ’em. We can shoot in every direction now.”
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Not many would have been killed. As soon as the first volley of shots was fired, almost all of them would have bravely run away.
And likely have stayed away.
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Old 12th August 2022, 05:55 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I have been saying that for some time.
Problem is the "All Gun Ownership Is Evil" has become pure Dogma and is not to be questioned.
Fortunately I am not Liberal, though at times like this I wish I still had My six Pound Civil War Cannon.
I am surrounded Not By MAGA but By Ultra MAGA, I guess they have the Super power of Complete Imbecility or something like that.
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Old 12th August 2022, 06:10 PM   #46
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If somebody is out to kill you you have every right to take steps to protect yourself.
Completely agree.
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Old 12th August 2022, 06:12 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Listen we need to have a real talk here. If it comes down to it, we're screwed.

Listen I love and adore my liberal friends. They are kind and wonderful and smart and caring and the world is a better place for them being in it.

What they are NOT is scary or threatening or tough. Nobody is scared of people who posts memes about how they can't order their own pizza because of anxiety.

At least the Right can still fire a gun from their mobility scooters.
I think the stereotype you describe might be less proportionate among liberals than you think, depending on how you box them. Not going to question whether it's accurate about your friend circle. Just overall. As well, if the hard right turns violent en masse, lots of people might be on the other side besides those that consider themselves liberal.
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Old 12th August 2022, 06:19 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by Galaxie View Post
“Sir, do you know they’ve cut us off? We’re entirely surrounded.”
“Those poor bastards,” Puller said. “They’ve got us right where we want ’em. We can shoot in every direction now.”
Always wondered what attaching a hot saw to a Gatling Gun would do?
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Old 12th August 2022, 09:32 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by gnome View Post
I think the stereotype you describe might be less proportionate among liberals than you think, depending on how you box them. Not going to question whether it's accurate about your friend circle. Just overall. As well, if the hard right turns violent en masse, lots of people might be on the other side besides those that consider themselves liberal.
Yeah, you also have the ex-military, demolitions-trained, gun owning liberals out there
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Old 12th August 2022, 11:34 PM   #50
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So the unredacted search warrant was leaked to breitbart, presumably by Trump, and breitbart published names of fbi agents involved with the raid. It's stochastic terrorism.

And even if no threats of violence are carried out against them this time, the harassment and threats can lead to more decent and rational people leaving important positions throughout our government and being replaced by right wing lunatics.

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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I have been saying that for some time.
Problem is the "All Gun Ownership Is Evil" has become pure Dogma and is not to be questioned.
It’s your dogma, not the dogma of any of the organised “liberal” political and campaigning groups.
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The need to be prepared for violent backlash is real. But if militant right-wingers outnumbered everyone 50-1 it would already be over. Meet the threat, don't puff it up.
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I have been saying that for some time.
Problem is the "All Gun Ownership Is Evil" has become pure Dogma and is not to be questioned.
Yeah, you can tell the liberals trying to arm themselves 'cause the go into gun shops and ask to buy one a those "salt weapons".
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Yeah, you can tell the liberals trying to arm themselves 'cause the go into gun shops and ask to buy one a those "salt weapons".
Well I would personally like to have an STG 44.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_rifles
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Well I would personally like to have an STG 44.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_rifles
I'll take a ZF-1, please.
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Two members of the Brookville Police Department are suspended following allegations they arrested a man thought to be anti-police whom they did not want running for town board, which has oversight of the police department.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...l/65399770007/

As a result of the experience the candidate dropped out so either way they got the result they wanted
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https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...l/65399770007/

As a result of the experience the candidate dropped out so either way they got the result they wanted
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I think Jan 6th, Charollesville, and back in the 90's Oklahoma City got plenty of attention.
Thing is except for those the Right wing terorists have not done anything that spectacular.
I don;t buy there is some conspiracy by the evil media to hide Right wing terrorism.
No conspiracy necessary, just a collective bias that's highly charitable to good ol' white folk who are "fighting for what they believe in" by carrying out terrorist acts.

And there's plenty of denial, deflection about the January 6th attack. And even many small scale plots in the last 20 years have been unmentioned or dismissed as lone wolf activities. I'm saying if these were perpetrated by Islamists, "antifa" or some black-identity group, we already know the reaction.
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Two men convicted of plotting to kidnap the Govermnor of Michigan

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...tmer-rcna44430

A jury on Tuesday convicted two men of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020, in a plot prosecutors described as a rallying cry for a U.S. civil war by anti-government extremists.

The jury also found Adam Fox and Barry Croft Jr. guilty of conspiring to obtain a weapon of mass destruction, namely a bomb to blow up a bridge and stymie police if the kidnapping could be pulled off at Whitmer’s vacation home.

Croft, 46, a trucker from Bear, Delaware, was also convicted of another explosives charge.


Another pair of MAGA morons duped by the lies of The Fat Orange Turd and his sycophantic followers.
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I don't think this gets talked about enough in the media. Good honest election officials, both Democratic and Republican, are resigning all over the country due to harassment and threats from all the MAGA morons.

I wouldn't want to deal with the bs either but at the same time resigning is exactly what they want. Now they can take the empty spot and rig future elections.
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No conspiracy necessary, just a collective bias that's highly charitable to good ol' white folk who are "fighting for what they believe in" by carrying out terrorist acts.

And there's plenty of denial, deflection about the January 6th attack. And even many small scale plots in the last 20 years have been unmentioned or dismissed as lone wolf activities. I'm saying if these were perpetrated by Islamists, "antifa" or some black-identity group, we already know the reaction.

Uh, seems to me a lot of them were lone wolf or three or four people plots.
Yes, they had similiar ideology behind them, but that is different then some vast planned consipiracy.
And I still maintain Right wing extremism has gotten pleny of mainstream media attention. Problem you have is it does not push a vast conspiracy theory.
It would be so much easier if I could buy into a "Left GOOD, Right BAD" ideology, but it's much more complex then that.
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Wake me up when they start flying jumbo jets into skyscrapers...then they will have caught up with the hot ticket from two decades ago. Of course, those folks are largely "peace-loving". But not these right-wingers, I'll tell ya.
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Wake me up when they start flying jumbo jets into skyscrapers...then they will have caught up with the hot ticket from two decades ago. Of course, those folks are largely "peace-loving". But not these right-wingers, I'll tell ya.
They are not far from it.
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Wake me up when they start flying jumbo jets into skyscrapers...then they will have caught up with the hot ticket from two decades ago. Of course, those folks are largely "peace-loving". But not these right-wingers, I'll tell ya.
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They are not far from it.

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The fact of the matter is Trump and his minion/scum tried to overthrow a democratically elected government.

Anyone who excuses or mollifies him and his swine are complicate in his traitorous deeds.
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They are not far from it.
Give them time
I can easily see Christian fanatics becoming just as murderous as their Islamic counterparts.
I get very annoyned at the way some on the left are apologists for Islamic extremists ...but for the Right Wingers to start pointing fingers when they scream bout how we have to "undersantd" the Jan 6th radicals is, well, pretty hypocritical.
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Uh, seems to me a lot of them were lone wolf or three or four people plots.
Yes, they had similiar ideology behind them, but that is different then some vast planned consipiracy.
And I still maintain Right wing extremism has gotten pleny of mainstream media attention. Problem you have is it does not push a vast conspiracy theory.
It would be so much easier if I could buy into a "Left GOOD, Right BAD" ideology, but it's much more complex then that.
You're losing track of the discussion. You brought up "it's not a conspiracy" when I never claimed such. I'm saying people are far more charitable to what they're familiar with.

And I don't think anything I've said here warrants that last sentence. *facepalm*
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Wake me up when they start flying jumbo jets into skyscrapers...then they will have caught up with the hot ticket from two decades ago. Of course, those folks are largely "peace-loving". But not these right-wingers, I'll tell ya.
That's right, Warp...handwave away far-right attacks because they haven't killed as many as the Islamist extremists on 9/11 did twenty-one years ago.

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The FBI director, Christopher Wray, told Congress that the 6 January insurrection wasn’t an isolated event and “the problem of domestic terrorism has been metastasizing across the country for a number of years”.

Wray added that white supremacists comprise “the biggest chunk of our domestic terrorism portfolio overall” and “have been responsible for the most lethal attacks over the last decade”
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That's right, Warp...handwave away far-right attacks because they haven't killed as many as the Islamist extremists on 9/11 did twenty-one years ago.

I am trying to maintain some perspective on the matter...instead of characterizing right-wing folks as deadly terrorists. That would be ridiculous.

Like I say, we can just say that most are peace-loving, and leave it at that. I am sure that is what will be said by libs if some right-wing terrorists fly planes into buildings...right?
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I am trying to maintain some perspective on the matter...instead of characterizing right-wing folks as deadly terrorists. That would be ridiculous.
No, you aren't "trying to maintain some perspective on the matter." No one was "characterizing right-wing folks as deadly terrorists". Reporting on actual convictions like the MI idiots who plotted to kidnap and kill Whitmer and actual acts of right-wing terrorism or violence is not painting ALL right-wingers as 'deadly terrorists'.

What you're doing is handwaving away facts that you don't like and trying to 'trigger the libs'.

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Like I say, we can just say that most are peace-loving, and leave it at that.
No one said most conservatives are deadly terrorists so why didn't you leave it at that?

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I am sure that is what will be said by libs if some right-wing terrorists fly planes into buildings...right?
That chip on your shoulder must get heavy.
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No, you aren't "trying to maintain some perspective on the matter." No one was "characterizing right-wing folks as deadly terrorists". Reporting on actual convictions like the MI idiots who plotted to kidnap and kill Whitmer and actual acts of right-wing terrorism or violence is not painting ALL right-wingers as 'deadly terrorists'.

What you're doing is handwaving away facts that you don't like and trying to 'trigger the libs'.



No one said most conservatives are deadly terrorists so why didn't you leave it at that?



That chip on your shoulder must get heavy.

There is a clear emphasis on the "evil" of the right-wing in this thread (and the forum, in general). I believe they call this, "conservaphobia".

Nobody is saying that threats and such should not be investigated. However, the presentation reeks of a political motivation, both here and in the media.
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There is a clear emphasis on the "evil" of the right-wing in this thread (and the forum, in general). I believe they call this, "conservaphobia".

Nobody is saying that threats and such should not be investigated.
Oh, that's exactly what you implied when you said, "Wake me up when they start flying jumbo jets into skyscrapers...then they will have caught up with the hot ticket from two decades ago.. . ."

Denial: A defense mechanism in which an individual refuses to recognize or acknowledge objective facts or experiences. It’s an unconscious process that serves to protect the person from discomfort or anxiety.

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Wake me up when they start flying jumbo jets into skyscrapers...then they will have caught up with the hot ticket from two decades ago. Of course, those folks are largely "peace-loving". But not these right-wingers, I'll tell ya.
In what sense are the Taliban left wing?
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In what sense are the Taliban left wing?


Nobody said they were, nor were "The Taliban" the group I was referring to.

I won't be debating that with you.
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Nobody said they were, nor were "The Taliban" the group I was referring to.

I won't be debating that with you.
So you just gave us more examples of right wing terrorism in an effort to downplay right wing terrorism. Cool
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Nobody said they were, nor were "The Taliban" the group I was referring to.

I won't be debating that with you.
Both the Taliban and the Christian Alt Right are Religious Zelots and Conspiracy theorists, the Funny thing is they want to go back too 1776, and that would mean Trashing the Constitution and Second Amendment.
So I say OK, that would allow the government too take the Guns away from Right Wing Terrorists.
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I am trying to maintain some perspective on the matter...instead of characterizing right-wing folks as deadly terrorists. That would be ridiculous.

Like I say, we can just say that most are peace-loving, and leave it at that. I am sure that is what will be said by libs if some right-wing terrorists fly planes into buildings...right?
Does it have to be a plane, or does blowing up a building count? Maybe something like in Oklahoma City?
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Old 25th August 2022, 05:51 AM   #77
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Does it have to be a plane, or does blowing up a building count? Maybe something like in Oklahoma City?

Certainly has nothing to do with how loudly this is being used to characterize conservatives as a general threat in the US.

The event you reference is small potatoes compared to the one I cited. Still, I don't see libs clamoring to defend conservatives as "mostly peace-loving" (like they have done for other "victimized" groups). I wonder why that is?

Because it is just politics, that's why.
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"Democrats won't let me hate Muslims so therefore they are the real terrorists" is a very bold stance that I can't wait for you to refuse to debate.
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"Democrats won't let me hate Muslims so therefore they are the real terrorists" is a very bold stance that I can't wait for you to refuse to debate.

That's not the stance...but you know that. Amusing, though.
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This is why conservatives have to either outright lie ("ANTIFA HAS BURNED DOWN THE ENTIRE CITY OF PORTLAND!") or make egregious comparison to maintain their whataboutism.
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