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Ah! Didn't see this before commenting in Tony Sz's thread. It makes much more sense now.
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There were no planes.
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Inflationary theory.
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[quote=Tony Szamboti;11676012]When viewing video of the collapse of the 17 story Plasco building in Tehran it appears there were a couple of violent expulsions (not just billowing smoke) just before the back of the building started to come apart.
Could an explosion of something inside the building have caused the walls to collapse?[/QUOTE] Fire fire dit it fire reported floors on fire many floors on fire fire trucks and firemen on the scene spectators watching the fire smoke from the fire flames from the fire through the wndows the building was on fire on many floors firemen hosing the fire firemen were fighting the fires fire did it fire. |
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[quote=BasqueArch;11676208]
Tony can't understand fires, he doesn't understand how fires heat steel or the dangers of soot rich fires.
This video demonstrates why IS wrong. Carbon black soot is a very dangerous fuel in building fires understanding it allows you to understand the fire. It might be possible to predict the fire behavior and when a building is likely to collapse based on rate of pyrosis over time. The deaths in Tehran might have been avoided if I could have come up with a better fire model, to indicate when the building might succumb to fire. |
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Aaaaahahahaha
Coffee on my screen........... Starting the day off with a laugh, Tony you are the greatest(not that you didn't already know that) I thought it would be the DIFbats. I call Poe. Tony is having us on, pulling chains, pushing buttons, |
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Me: So what you're saying is that, if the load carrying ability of the lower structure is reduced to the point where it can no longer support the load above it, it will collapse without a jolt, right? Tony Szamboti: That is right |
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By the looks of it, the floor collapses propagated downward and then the columns lost lateral support. I guess someone didn't tell Iranian girder connections that consecutive floors can never collapse according to your modeling work, and they also forgot to tell Iranian fires that they can't heat the connections enough to make even one floor collapse according to your heating theories. |
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This report says that an investigation has been ordered immediately. (at the end of the video)
Global News One fire fighter says he survived because he jumped out a window. He cries as he recalls his co-workers who were too far from the window and were trapped inside. |
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Looking at various views of the collapse it seems pretty straight forward:
.... a floor at about the 10th-14th level collapsed (where the most intense fire was at the time) first. The floors below were weakened from the fires and the initial floor collapse then caused multiple floor failures down to the lower levels. Interior failures progressed as the exterior failed near the area of initial floor failure. With the floors failed the exterior walls fell inwards. Some columns remained, stripped of floor connections and they then fell due to lack of lateral support and buffeting from debris. |
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Me: So what you're saying is that, if the load carrying ability of the lower structure is reduced to the point where it can no longer support the load above it, it will collapse without a jolt, right? Tony Szamboti: That is right |
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What explosion? There was no explosion.
As you have been schooled many times before, explosive CD is identical to creating shockwaves to break the structure, and shockwaves are identically equal to loud bangs - it is the sound that makes the CD. So why can't you hear any explosions consistent in timing, loudness, number and brisance with CD? Here are some examples of what to expect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGfX6XA1rNM&t=40s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCtFQOHJKuc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC4e_CodhLw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfbH9lX9rs These awesomely loud explosions reverberate mightily - do you not hear that? None of that is heard in Teheran. None of that is heard at the WTC. As you have been schooled many many times. You won't even deny that you honestly can't hear any such CD explosions at the WTC - though, coward and dishonest as you fundamentally are, you won't ever admit this truth ever. |
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Never been bombed, near an explosion which damages structure? No experience? Trying to back in CD for a current fire event? This fire event was fought, unlike 7. Fantasy never ends. It does not matter why the building fell, for WTC 7, it was fire. Got any time in a combat zone?
Keep spreading the lie of CD, it makes people who hate the US feel better; aid and comfort to terrorists. |
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Perhaps the Iranian engineers and fire fighting community are brainwashed by their leadership to believe every anti-American conspiracy theory, and thus they take their "knowledge" from AE911Truth and their chief engineer, Tony Sz.
In that case, Tony would now have the lives of 30+ Iranians on his soul. Because he is spreading dangerous disinfo. |
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[quote=Oystein;11676509]Perhaps the Iranian engineers and fire fighting community are brainwashed by their leadership to believe every anti-American conspiracy theory, and thus they take their "knowledge" from AE911Truth and their chief engineer, Tony Sz.
In that case, Tony would now have the lives of 30+ Iranians on his soul. Because he is spreading dangerous disinfo. I don't think so but one never knows about idiots. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...1-mystery.html |
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Did we really need another thread on the Tehran building fire?
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Hahaha. The AE911 Dolts posted this on their Facebook page.
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From AE911
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these mutts are not just full of it they are dangerous. |
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To further the point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UkU-jfLaHY |
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Doubling down on the dumb. Way to go, AE911T, can't admit your whole shtick is shtucked
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