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18th August 2017, 02:49 PM | #201 |
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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What's your take DD? do you accept the surviving hypothesis? Or would you be willing to entertain alternative hypotheses? Tell what I'd put my money on, Electrostatic forces on grains near asteroids and comets Christine Hartzell and Dylan Carter
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20th August 2017, 08:58 AM | #206 |
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20th August 2017, 02:24 PM | #207 |
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Sol88: I did not answer an ignorant and deluded derail
21 August 2017 Sol88: I did not answer an ignorant and deluded derail.
But since you insist on documenting even more ignorance and delusions about comets I will answer.
The nucleus bulk density of comets is less than that of water as measured for over 60 years as Sol88 knows ! |
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20th August 2017, 02:32 PM | #208 |
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Sol88: "Interesting" ignorance - main belt comets debunk his comets are rock delusion
21 August 2017 Sol88: "Interesting" ignorance because main-belt comets show that his comets are rocks delusions are just that!
According to your delusions, the only bodies that can be comets are ones coming from the other system to the inner system. Main-belt comets cannot exist in your ignorant and deluded dogma ! On the other hand, there is the real world. In the real world ices sublimate within the snow line (about 5 AU). Asteroids may have ices. These ices can be exposed making some main-belt asteroids into temporary comets. |
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20th August 2017, 02:42 PM | #209 |
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Sol88: "Curiouser" ignorance - main belt comets debunk his comets are rock delusion
21 August 2017 Sol88: "Curiouser" ignorance because main-belt comets show that his comets are rocks delusions are just that!
21 August 2017 Sol88: Inane lying about real science that is not his comets are rocks, etc. delusions. He lies by highlighting text irrelevant to his delusions and quote mining. THE EXTRAORDINARY MULTI-TAILED MAIN-BELT COMET P/2013 P5
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20th August 2017, 03:00 PM | #210 |
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Sol88: A lie about Jewitt et. al.
21 August 2017 Sol88: A lie about Jewitt et. al.
THE EXTRAORDINARY MULTI-TAILED MAIN-BELT COMET P/2013 P5 list electrostatic levitation of dust and exclude it in the text Sol88 does not quote !
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20th August 2017, 03:09 PM | #211 |
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This is Sol88 showing his ignorance yet again by not knowing that main-belt comets are nothing to do with his delusions about comets. Their existence even debunks his delusions because they do not have cometary orbits and the activity can even be unrelated to the orbit, e.g. impacts exposing ices.
Aside from that there is some interesting science about the causes of asteroids becoming temporary comets. The Active Asteroids by Dave Jewitt (one of the authors of the cited paper) lists them
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21st August 2017, 03:37 PM | #214 |
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A homogeneous nucleus for comet 67P/Churyumov– Gerasimenko from its gravity field. M. Pätzold1, T. andert2, M. Hahn1, S. W. asmar3, J.-P. barriot4, M. K. bird1, b. Häusler2, K. Peter1, S. Tellmann1, e. Grün5, P. r. Weissman6, H. Sierks7, L. Jorda8, r. Gaskell6, f. Preusker9 & f. Scholten9 Geomorphology of comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko Samuel P. D. Birch,1‹ Y. Tang,2 A. G. Hayes,1,2 R. L. Kirk,3 D. Bodewits,4 H. Campins,5 Y. Fernandez,5 R. de Freitas Bart,2 N. W. Kutsop,2 H. Sierks,6 J. M. Soderblom,7 S. W. Squyres1,2 and J-B. Vincent6,8 Surface changes on comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko suggest a more active past B. Davidsson,5 X. Hu,6 S. F. Hviid,7 J. Knollenberg,7 C. Güttler,6 C. Tubiana,6 S. Fornasier,8 C. Feller,8 P. Hasselmann,8 J.-B. Vincent,7 H. Sierks,6 C. Barbieri,9 P. Lamy,10 R. Rodrigo,11,12 D. Koschny,13 H. U. Keller,7,14 H. Rickman,15,16 M. F. A’Hearn,17 M. A. Barucci,8 J.-L. Bertaux,18 I. Bertini,9 S. Besse,13 D. Bodewits,17 G. Cremonese,19 V. Da Deppo,20 S. Debei,21 M. De Cecco,22 J. Deller,6 J. D. P. Deshapriya,8 M. Fulle,23 P. J. Gutierrez,24 M. Hofmann,6 W.-H. Ip,25 L. Jorda,3 G. Kovacs,6 J.-R. Kramm,6 E. Kührt,7 M. Küppers,13 L. M. Lara,24 M. Lazzarin,9 Z.-Yi Lin,25 J. J. Lopez Moreno,24 S. Marchi,26 F. Marzari,9 S. Mottola,7 G. Naletto,20,27,28 N. Oklay,7 A. Pommerol,1 F. Preusker,7 F. Scholten,7 X. Shi6 Tell you what, have a bit of a read and see what ya reckon, Dancing David, Reality Check. |
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Sol88: The idiocy of citing papers on comets made of ices and dust
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Sol88: Repeats the idiocy of citing papers on comets made of ices and dust
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22 August 2017 Sol88: Repeats the idiocy of citing papers on comets made of ices and dust in a thread about his comet delusions, e.g. they are rocks. It gets worse: 22 August 2017 Sol88: A double delusion that comets are only dust and that dust is "very similar to Carbonaceous chondritic meteorites". Comets are dust and ices. No cited measurement of the composition of dust. ETA: Composition of comet Halley dust particles from VEGA observations
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Sol88: Why are all asteroids with cometary obits not comets
And a blast from the past!
22 August 2017 Sol88: Why are all asteroids with cometary obits not comets as in your comet delusions? Electric comets still do not exist! EC predicts that 100,000's of asteroids should be comets ! |
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Bedrock?? Like as if in bedrock? You think they say what they mean and call it compressed dust with some ice! Why would they call it bedrock, like in this context...
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“No rock. Any charge separation is limited. The electric field is pointing in the wrong direction. Currents are doing nothing.” Jonesdave116. “The 'electric comet' is physically IMPOSSIBLE to model using mainstream science! PERIOD! True story! End of story!” Indagator |
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So what would happen to the MUPUS-PEN if it had hit bedrock, one has to wonder!
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Then we can move onto the REAL interesting stuff!
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Is there actually a point to this drivel?
Still no evidence whatsoever for the electric comet hypothesis. |
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Sol88: Deluded comments about papers on ice and dust comets
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Sol88: Does not know he cited a journal issue on comets made of ices and dust
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Sol88: Repeated idiocy of citing papers on comets made of ices and dust
23 August 2017 Sol88: Repeated idiocy of citing papers on comets made of ices and dust in a thread on his comet are rocks, etc. delusions.
23 August 2017 Sol88: Ignorant fantasies and lies about the papers he cites on ices and dust comets. Geomorphology of comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko is about the surface ices and dust geology of 67P. Electrostatic forces on grains near asteroids and comets is about electrostatic forces on dust grains near asteroids and comets. Observation of charged nanograins at comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko is about charged nanograins far from the surface of 67P. |
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Sol88: Inane obsession with the word bedrock
Yet another obvious attempt to derail from 8 years of the ignorant and deluded idea that comets are rocks, etc.
23 August 2017 Sol88: Inane obsession with the word bedrock in a paper about comets made of ices and dust. This is a persistent obsession over the last few years with words and phrases used to describe ices and dust comets, e.g. "rock-like". |
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No, one has to test like Marczewski et al. did, not wonder.
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Sol88: Idiotic question - comets are not made of rock=MUPUS was not tested into rock
24 August 2017 Sol88: An idiotic question - comets are not made of rock so MUPUS-PEN was not tested into rock!
Idiotic because we already have 15 August 2017 Sol88: Two lies about a Spohn & Ball paper ("A sintered near-surface microporous dust-ice layer with a porosity of 30 to 65% is consistent with the data") 15 August 2017 Sol88: An ignorant delusion about the MUPUS-PEN calibration in the lab being what MUPUS detected on 67P. where there are calibration materials that did not include rock because anyone who can read and do basic arithmetic (e.g. scientists) are not deluded enough to think that comets are rock. The evidence when MUPUS-PEN was designed, built and tested before 2004 was that comets were relatively soft nuclei of loosely packed ices and dust. The density of 67P was lower than what we now measure it (from memory ~0.4 g/cc) because we did not know about its shape and overestimated its volume. |
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You have a problem RC!
A homogeneous nucleus for comet 67P/Churyumov– Gerasimenko from its gravity field
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And then you run into the old chestnut of 'how is the dust ending up in the coma?'
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