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12th September 2017, 07:24 PM | #321 |
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So what's do YOU think is going on here Reality Check? Because your wrong, again, here silicatic or icy or both Can't be both and would have great difficulty silicatic or icy, if the icy part had no absorption band from water ice or indeed CO2. |
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12th September 2017, 07:28 PM | #322 |
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Should be pretty obvious now that the (dust) is be ejected electrically!
So ANY paper that chooses to IGNORE the fact the dust is charged and coupled to the plasma that surrounds the nucleus, only has value in case the date roll runs out! And even when it is included the assumptions are so simplified that there're pretty well worthless (1D, 1r etc) just like JD116 back of the napkin calculation. |
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12th September 2017, 08:14 PM | #323 |
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Sol88: Gibberish and lies
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12th September 2017, 08:15 PM | #324 |
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Sol88: A delusion about a post having a "back of the envelope calculation"
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12th September 2017, 08:17 PM | #325 |
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Sol88: Idiocy of citing a paper about mainstream comets made of ices and dust
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12th September 2017, 08:19 PM | #326 |
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Sol88: A lie of dust being ejected electrically as in his comet delusions
13 September 2017 Sol88: A lie of dust being ejected electrically as in his comet delusions.
Nothing he has cited states that the dust is ejected by delusions of electrical discharges on comets. Nothing he has cited states that the dust is ejected by delusions of the Sun having a physically significant electric field. Nothing he has cited even states that the dust has been found to be ejected by anything electrical. |
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12th September 2017, 08:21 PM | #327 |
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12th September 2017, 08:33 PM | #328 |
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Sol88: A lie about wanting a link when he knows the link
13 September 2017 Sol88: A lie about wanting a link when he knows the link.
254 items of ignorance, delusion and lies dating from 29 August 2016 to 23August 2017 (maybe hundreds more in the last 8 years!) Two years and counting of fear of doing basic physics: 25 June 2015 Sol88: Use a impact calculator to calculate the size of the crater on a comet made of rock by the Deep Impact impactor. The parroting of the Thunderbolt cult ignorance, delusions and lies in this thread alone (continuation of a thread that is now 8 years of delusions from Sol88) 10th April 2015: The ignorance, delusions and lies in the Thunderbolts web site, videos, etc. |
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A reminder that the Thunderbolt cult that Sol88 mindlessly parrots is not just his comets are rocks delusion.
20 July 2017: A Thunderbolts follower with a ignorant "cosmic climate model" delusions. 21 July 2017: The mostly ignorant and deluded cranks speaking at the EU2017 conference. 24 July 2017: Thornhill shows again that he has gone off the deep end with a "gravity = EM" speech. 31 July 2017: All sorts of idiocy in the Thunderbolts dogma listed for EU2017 (Big Bang denial, black hole denial, delusion that stars are not powered by fusion, etc.) |
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12th September 2017, 08:43 PM | #331 |
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Wheel this baby out again, ay!
Surface charging and electrostatic dust acceleration at the nucleus of comet 67P during periods of low activity
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SIMULATION OF THE ELECTROSTATIC CHARGING OF PHILAE ON 67P/CHURYUMOV-GERASIMENKO AND OF ITS INTERACTION WITH THE DUSTS. S. L. G. Hess1, P. Sarrailh1, J.-C. Mateo-Velez1, J. Forest2, B. Jeanty-Ruard2 and F. Cipriani3
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Why would those CRANKS say something so stupid Reality Check? [sarcasm] are they also a part of the the THUNDERBOLTS mob?[/sarcasm] just so RC doesent get all confused. |
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12th September 2017, 11:02 PM | #333 |
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Mmmmmmmm.....Where do we see the "jets" mainly? The dust being dragged out by gas drag is negligible?? Well according Yu. V. Skorov1, L. Rezac1, P. Hartogh1 and H. U. Keller2, it's a complete non starter!
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12th September 2017, 11:13 PM | #334 |
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Evidence of Electrical Activity on Comet 67P: Towards an Electrochemical Framework for Cometary Phenomena
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Coincidental that jets are seen to occur in the boundary between lit areas and shadowed areas? or linked? |
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Sol88: A repeated lie of dust being ejected electrically as in his comet delusions
Idiocy and a lie in this post.
14 September 2017 Sol88: A repeated lie of dust being ejected electrically as in his comet delusions [by electrical discharges between the comet and Sun]. 14 September 2017 Sol88: Idiocy of citing an electrostatic dust acceleration paper about mainstream comets made of ices and dust 14 September 2017 Sol88: Idiocy of citing an electrostatic charging paper about mainstream comets made of ices and dust |
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Sol88: Lies again about there being no links
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Sol88: Usual mindless parroting of the ignorant and deluded Thunderbolts cult
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Sol88: A lie about his comet delusions which do not include this jets fantasy
Not coincidental that this is more les:
14 September 2017 Sol88: A lie about his comet delusions which do not include jets happen in the "boundary between lit areas and shadowed areas". His cometary jets delusion is that jets are electrical discharges between the comet and the Sun. That means jets can only happen on high points of the lit areas. 14 September 2017 Sol88: A lie because he knows that the actual location of jets is part of what makes his comet ideas into delusions. Jets issue from the neck of 67P which is the lowest part of the comet. Jets issue from inside pits. Jets issue from fissured cliff faces. Jets issue from the back, dark side of 67P which is the furthest part of the comet from the Sun. 14 September 2017 Sol88: A lie because the ignorant and deluded page he cites is not about comet jets. 14 September 2017 Sol88: Maybe a lie because he does not cite any observations of jets "seen to occur in the boundary between lit areas and shadowed areas". |
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3 or maybe 4 lies packed into one rather short post is something you should not repeat. Not that will happen given 254 items of ignorance, delusion and lies dating from 29 August 2016 to 23 August 2017 (maybe hundreds more in the last 8 years!)
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The grunt is on Thunderdolts, as the obviously have not understood Ingo's paper. This comment:
Originally Posted by TD
And electric fields, that is, the motional or convective electric fields, created by the moving magnetic field of the solar wind still work the same as they used to in the pick-up and mass-loading process. No use to read any further. |
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Any movement on your tail excursion paper?
Keen as to read it. |
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Tom's simulations and estimates by others seem to indicate the possibility of such fields here.
Whether or not they actually occur on the surface of 67P is another question. |
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Devils advocate,
Say they do happen (small scale strong electric fields) what then for the interpretation of what dust 'jets' are and how they operate? I.e is gas drag necessary? |
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Well there seems to be strong evidence of those same fields accelerating electrons to high energies...
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Sorry but the board seems to cutting the fl out of the copy and paste And that same plasma is coupled to the rest by, as you said,
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Whole zoo of interesting plasma phenomena? Please, do tell more to this ignorant sob. Pretty much the ELECTRIC COMET right there, it's got it all! |
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Whipple never saw a comet up close in the 50s of the last century.
Ofcourse, after the first picture of a cometary nucleus, it became clear that Whipple's model needed to be modified, and with every successful mission to comets we learn more, which is exactly what Fulle et al. are writing. It is just YOU who is keeping on insisting that the mainstream model is Whipples dirty snowball. Yes, it keeps on being used in popular literature, it is hard to get rid of terms that have taken foothold but don't describe reality, just think about the term "big bang" which was used to ridicule the theory. |
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but it's the only model available to the mainstream! And it's wrong. Trying to fit the data to that model (the dirty Snowball) has led to some pretty wild claims!
So where does that leave us? |
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