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Old 20th October 2021, 02:12 PM   #2281
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
A better question is how much will not.
Forget Swiss, she can do better in South Dakota.
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Old Yesterday, 03:59 AM   #2282
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Greene on Bannon's podcast

""January 6 was just a riot at the Capitol and if you think about what our Declaration of Independence says, it says to overthrow tyrants," Greene told Bannon." CNN Op-Ed
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Old Yesterday, 04:07 AM   #2283
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Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides View Post
""January 6 was just a riot at the Capitol and if you think about what our Declaration of Independence says, it says to overthrow tyrants," Greene told Bannon." CNN Op-Ed
I get the impression this type of argument worked when she was three years old and lied to her mom about stealing cookies even with the crumbs on her face. And she has been trying it ever since.
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Old Yesterday, 04:25 AM   #2284
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Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides View Post
""January 6 was just a riot at the Capitol and if you think about what our Declaration of Independence says, it says to overthrow tyrants," Greene told Bannon." CNN Op-Ed
I guess that argument has some kind of internal consistency, and the US does have "form" in that regard.

The US threw off the shackles of English oppression in the first place, the South attempted to ensure that their constitutionally assured states' rights were maintained when they tried to rid themselves of Yankee oppression.

At least that's the way it appears to the GOP.
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Old Yesterday, 04:30 AM   #2285
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
I get the impression this type of argument worked when she was three years old and lied to her mom about stealing cookies even with the crumbs on her face. And she has been trying it ever since.
<usual suspects> Well her claim is perfectly valid. After all the libs celebrate the BLM riots. </usual suspects>
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Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides View Post
""January 6 was just a riot at the Capitol and if you think about what our Declaration of Independence says, it says to overthrow tyrants," Greene told Bannon." CNN Op-Ed
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I get the impression this type of argument worked when she was three years old and lied to her mom about stealing cookies even with the crumbs on her face. And she has been trying it ever since.
It is kind of a childishly loose (and dangerous) use of the word "tyrant" to define nothing more than "people I voted against." The Jan 6 rioters weren't "overthrow[ing] tyrants," they were trying to overthrow a process that just had an outcome they didn't like. (Not to mention that the Declaration was written against a king and government that had, after all, been in place for a while at the time, and earned the sobriquet- it seems that the least the rioters could do before overthrowing a tyranny is to let it take office first and prove to be one)
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
And now she is in a major ****-show spat with Lin Wood. Two cats fighting in a bag, and that bag should be thrown in the river.



https://www.businessinsider.com.au/t...1-10?r=US&IR=T
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Originally Posted by turingtest View Post
It is kind of a childishly loose (and dangerous) use of the word "tyrant" to define nothing more than "people I voted against." The Jan 6 rioters weren't "overthrow[ing] tyrants," they were trying to overthrow a process that just had an outcome they didn't like. (Not to mention that the Declaration was written against a king and government that had, after all, been in place for a while at the time, and earned the sobriquet- it seems that the least the rioters could do before overthrowing a tyranny is to let it take office first and prove to be one)
I also notice that people shouting about Tyrants are not really against Tyrants, they just want the job for themselves....
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Old Yesterday, 02:23 PM   #2289
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Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides View Post
""January 6 was just a riot at the Capitol and if you think about what our Declaration of Independence says, it says to overthrow tyrants," Greene told Bannon." CNN Op-Ed
iMHO the GOP has unleashed forces that it cannot control,and in the end the Mob will turn on the GOP as well as the Dems. The Frankenstein monster always turns on it's creator in the end.
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The US threw off the shackles of English oppression in the first place, the South attempted to ensure that their constitutionally assured states' rights were maintained when they tried to rid themselves of Yankee oppression.

This is one of those things that annoys me, because fundamentally, she's right. People do have a right to throw off a government that they feel has become tyrannical. Had Trump's coup succeeded, and he started tossed "libtards" in jail, I would support those people taking up arms to overthrow Trump's government.

The problem is, these wankers don't understand the corollary: When you decide it's time to start shooting at the government, the government is allowed to shoot back.

That's why you don't start civil wars over trivial ****. You only start them when you feel the cause is righteous enough that you're willing to risk death to achieve it. The level of whining we've seen from the Right wing idiots over the Jan 6th insurrection proves that they don't believe it's worth their lives, so that means they're just violent ********.
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Further proof that the GOP has created a monster they cannot control:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...oo/8570812002/

The writer of this is right:Trump and GOP own this guy, and trying to shift the blame will not work with other then true beleivers.
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She's on another rampage.

Marjorie Taylor Greene: Build Back Better = boys into girls and segregation of children by race! (reddit.com)
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This is getting old. SHE is getting old.
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
This is getting old. SHE is getting old.
Getting older and stupider and crazier....i.e. grooming herself for entry into the higher ranks of her party. She's on her way.
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Getting older and stupider and crazier....i.e. grooming herself for entry into the higher ranks of her party. She's on her way.
...to jail, more likely.
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...to jail, more likely.


I think one of the things demonstrated in the last few years is that senior figures in the GOP typically don't go to jail and those that do are quickly pardoned.

Matt Gaetz seems to be demonstrating that you can claim that any attempt to bring you to justice is politically motivated if it's within a couple of years of a primary - in effect making house members above the law.

Steve Bannon is currently showing how completely toothless congress is by simply refusing to participate in the Jan 6 investigation and ignoring all subpoenas - with apparently no meaningful penalty.

Donald Trump has demonstrated that the wheels of justice can be jammed by someone willing and able to drag out processes indefinitely.
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I think one of the things demonstrated in the last few years is that senior figures in the GOP typically don't go to jail and those that do are quickly pardoned.

Matt Gaetz seems to be demonstrating that you can claim that any attempt to bring you to justice is politically motivated if it's within a couple of years of a primary - in effect making house members above the law.

Steve Bannon is currently showing how completely toothless congress is by simply refusing to participate in the Jan 6 investigation and ignoring all subpoenas - with apparently no meaningful penalty.

Donald Trump has demonstrated that the wheels of justice can be jammed by someone willing and able to drag out processes indefinitely.
In the past, this was undoubtedly true. However as the noose tightens on those at the top, they will be more than willing to throw the willing dupes to the sharks in order to escape themselves. MTG is definitely not a Mensa type, and i expect she will be one of the many sacrifices the conspirators will be willing to make. Especially as she is also a loudmouth blabbering moron who could screw up everything completely by accident.

Also, I gather it takes time and considerable process to achieve a jail cell for contempt of Congress. So Bannon is trying to run out the clock. But he hasn't yet stopped the game so his ass is still deeply in jeopardy. Frankly, I expect him to find a reason soon to take a sudden and unexpected and lengthy vacation in some country that has no extradition treaty with the USA.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Further proof that the GOP has created a monster they cannot control:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...oo/8570812002/

The writer of this is right:Trump and GOP own this guy, and trying to shift the blame will not work with other then true beleivers.
I'm thinking that the GOP is going to start requiring all members have an IQ of =/<90 and/or have been diagnosed with at least one mental disorder that affects their ability to make rational decisions. Making it official won't affect their numbers very much but it would weed out the few who have flown under the radar concealing their >90 IQ's and stable mental health.
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In the past, this was undoubtedly true. However as the noose tightens on those at the top, they will be more than willing to throw the willing dupes to the sharks in order to escape themselves.
I'm not so sure the noose is tightening.

We've got reports in the liberal media that some GOP Representatives were involved in the planning of Jan 6. I'm sure that they will respond that they were planning a peaceful protest against the stealing of the election (which is now GOP orthodoxy) and that
  • The protest was peaceful
  • And if not, ANTIFA were responsible for the violence

I suspect that will allow plausible deniability. The House doesn't want a large number of their colleagues facing legal problems.

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MTG is definitely not a Mensa type, and i expect she will be one of the many sacrifices the conspirators will be willing to make. Especially as she is also a loudmouth blabbering moron who could screw up everything completely by accident.
She also reflects the current view of the majority of the GOP. It's the "others" who are the outliers now.

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Also, I gather it takes time and considerable process to achieve a jail cell for contempt of Congress. So Bannon is trying to run out the clock. But he hasn't yet stopped the game so his ass is still deeply in jeopardy. Frankly, I expect him to find a reason soon to take a sudden and unexpected and lengthy vacation in some country that has no extradition treaty with the USA.
I don't think he's in any actual danger.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Further proof that the GOP has created a monster they cannot control:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...oo/8570812002/

The writer of this is right:Trump and GOP own this guy, and trying to shift the blame will not work with other then true beleivers.

If I were a Democrat living in America right now, my no.1 priority from here on in is to arm myself and my family to the teeth with powerful firearms, and take intensive training on how to use them too shoot to kill.
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