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Old 5th October 2021, 06:12 AM   #1
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Milita Groups and the loss of the first Amendment in Red states.

My own experience with the Constitutionalist Militia has taught me that Freedom of speech is dead in Red States. If I had openned up more about what I knew about Jerome Corsi, and his Crazy theories World Net Daily, and Fox News, History might have been Radically different.
Infact Donald John Trump may not have even been elected President, do you believe that was one of the reasons the Militia groups formed in The Red States, to suppress opposition though Violent intimidating Tactics?
Even Now I have to be carefull of what I say and where I say it, because of the Radical Right.
Your Thoughts please.
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Old 5th October 2021, 06:16 AM   #2
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Your Thoughts please.
My thoughts? Well right now that the caps lock key is a privilege, not a right.
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My thoughts? Well right now that the caps lock key is a privilege, not a right.
Artistic License, is supposed to be a Freespeach right.
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Frank Speech, not free speech. That's how they want it.

Oh and "speach" is wrong spelling unless you are referring to fruit somehow.
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Old 5th October 2021, 07:24 AM   #5
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Frank Speech, not free speech. That's how they want it.

Oh and "speach" is wrong spelling unless you are referring to fruit somehow.
I thought they just wanted Lie speech, and you are correct on the spelling posted before Coffee this morning.
Really I don't think Free Speech ever really existed in the United States after what happened to me because of trying to debunk Conspiracy theorists I knew were lying, but the Finacial and Political gain ment the Liars at Fox News and World Net Daily, had to shut me up, least their Cash cow be exposed as nothing but a Huge Pile of Male Bovine Excrement, I think that was the incentive for paying people to Target me and My Family.
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f I had openned up more about what I knew about Jerome Corsi, and his Crazy theories World Net Daily, and Fox News, History might have been Radically different.
Infact Donald John Trump may not have even been elected President
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
My own experience with the Constitutionalist Militia has taught me that Freedom of speech is dead in Red States. If I had openned up more about what I knew about Jerome Corsi, and his Crazy theories World Net Daily, and Fox News, History might have been Radically different.
Infact Donald John Trump may not have even been elected President, do you believe that was one of the reasons the Militia groups formed in The Red States, to suppress opposition though Violent intimidating Tactics?
Even Now I have to be carefull of what I say and where I say it, because of the Radical Right.
Your Thoughts please.
If thngs are as bad a you say, only solution for the Other SIde to arm up and form Miltia groups of their own. People have every right to defend their freedoms by any means necessary.
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Old 5th October 2021, 03:21 PM   #8
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If thngs are as bad a you say, only solution for the Other SIde to arm up and form Miltia groups of their own. People have every right to defend their freedoms by any means necessary.
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The original Black Panther Party was more about theatrics then actual armed resistence.
There high point was invading the California State Capitol buidling in 1968 with a few surplus World War 2 rifles and proclaiming the revolution.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Uh.
Jerome Corsi's Wrote a Book on Soros and Bush Blowing up the twin towers, in 2001 because as Corsi said, No way I H*** a Sand
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in a Cave in Afghanistan, On dialysis is going to be Able to Launch an Attack on the United States.
I made the mistake of Trying to be nice contacting Fox News and world net Daily trying to reason with them, that's when I started being attacked by the Constitutionalist Militias.

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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
If thngs are as bad a you say, only solution for the Other SIde to arm up and form Miltia groups of their own. People have every right to defend their freedoms by any means necessary.
The Militia groups are linked to law enforcement.
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Old 5th October 2021, 08:37 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Uh.

Ya me too LOL
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
Jerome Corsi's Wrote a Book on Soros and Bush Blowing up the twin towers, in 2001 because as Corsi said, No way I H*** a Sand
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in a Cave in Afghanistan, On dialysis is going to be Able to Launch an Attack on the United States.
I made the mistake of Trying to be nice contacting Fox News and world net Daily trying to reason with them, that's when I started being attacked by the Constitutionalist Militias.
You keep dropping hints that you're some personage of renown or influence, a thorn in the side of and hence a target for powerful actors. This mystique you're fostering is becoming tiresome. And your lack of command of language does not buttress the image.

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You keep dropping hints that you're some personage of renown or influence, a thorn in the side of and hence a target for powerful actors. This mystique you're fostering is becoming tiresome. And your lack of command of language does not buttress the image.
Yes I wonder why Fox News the Right Wing Site wouldn't just love to have it known, that they were lying, about a current President, lies told by a man who
Thought G.W.B. The Former Republican president , had the United States Navy fire a Cruise Missle into the Pentagon Naval Annex, on 9/11/2001, (Killing Navy Personal). I am absolutely sure they would be fine with their finding out Corsi was also a Racist anti Semite.
They also would have loved Finding out that it was RTV Mosow that called me up and asked me to talk to Corsi and that WNDs Cover Story,
That they Rejected Corsi Story was a scam in fact Corsi was debunked by me,
and I sent Fox News the Emails that proved it.
Not only did WND plan on Publishing Corsi's articles they funded the Research for his 9/11 truther 500 page Book, he promised to send me a copy of For Christmas 2008!

I really wonder why they Wanted to keep that secret, not let that be openly Known?
No Not a Reason for the Constitutionalist Militias to target me at all, not like Birtherism was a cash cow for Fox News, and WND, and helped promote an Incompetent Reality TV Star to the Presidency of the United States.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
Yes I wonder why Fox News the Right Wing Site wouldn't just love to have it known, that they were lying, about a current President, lies told by a man who
Thought G.W.B. The Former Republican president , had the United States Navy fire a Cruise Missle into the Pentagon Naval Annex, on 9/11/2001, (Killing Navy Personal). I am absolutely sure they would be fine with their finding out Corsi was also a Racist anti Semite.
They also would have loved Finding out that it was RTV Mosow that called me up and asked me to talk to Corsi and that WNDs Cover Story,
That they Rejected Corsi Story was a scam in fact Corsi was debunked by me,
and I sent Fox News the Emails that proved it.
Not only did WND plan on Publishing Corsi's articles they funded the Research for his 9/11 truther 500 page Book, he promised to send me a copy of For Christmas 2008!

I really wonder why they Wanted to keep that secret, not let that be openly Known?
No Not a Reason for the Constitutionalist Militias to target me at all, not like Birtherism was a cash cow for Fox News, and WND, and helped promote an Incompetent Reality TV Star to the Presidency of the United States.
Honestly....I have no idea what you are on about. This in no way explains what you have been alluding to for a long time. It's just more rambling with accusations that make little sense.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
Jerome Corsi's Wrote a Book on Soros and Bush Blowing up the twin towers, in 2001 because as Corsi said, No way I H*** a Sand
Edited by Darat:  Breach of Rule 10 removed.
in a Cave in Afghanistan, On dialysis is going to be Able to Launch an Attack on the United States.
I made the mistake of Trying to be nice contacting Fox News and world net Daily trying to reason with them, that's when I started being attacked by the Constitutionalist Militias.
Again I say, Uh.
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The Militia groups are linked to law enforcement.
Proof? And what kind of Link?
The Miltia have no legal standing , and certainly none with the feds or the states.
There is only one official Miltia, and it's called The National Guard.
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Well we saw the chainsaw, I guess now weíre seeing the other part. Thing is, nobody cares about Jerome Corsi. I donít think Jerome Corsi cares about Jerome Corsi.
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Proof? And what kind of Link?
The Miltia have no legal standing , and certainly none with the feds or the states.
There is only one official Miltia, and it's called The National Guard.
https://www.newsweek.com/oath-keeper...ilitia-1634356

That said, I'm puzzled by much of what the OP here has said. Lunatic ravings?
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Originally Posted by lobosrul5 View Post
https://www.newsweek.com/oath-keeper...ilitia-1634356

That said, I'm puzzled by much of what the OP here has said. Lunatic ravings?
The NY cops, if this is true, should be fired immediately.
Problem is the OP seemed to imply some official connection between Law enforcement and the miltia morons.
And, yeah, we seem to be getting a big helping of word salad in thread.
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Again I say, Uh.

Amazing and disturbing that anyone here could say more than that in response, yet here we go again.
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Honestly....I have no idea what you are on about. This in no way explains what you have been alluding to for a long time. It's just more rambling with accusations that make little sense.
It goes back to this very Forum in 2008, in the 9/11 Thread.
If you understood Corsi's and WNDs Contribution to building Trump's political career then you would understand more. CORSI was a 9/11No Planer, back during the Birtner movement he was as Much a leader as Trump.
Corsi once ran for President on the Constitution party platform, he is a huckster Scam artist and Russian Useful idiot.
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I don't know which of these propositions is more depressing. That the fate of America rests squarely on Crazy Chainsaw's shoulders, that it all hinges on the 9/11 conspiracy theories, or that Jerome Corsi is the arch-nemesis.
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Proof? And what kind of Link?
The Miltia have no legal standing , and certainly none with the feds or the states.
There is only one official Miltia, and it's called The National Guard.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-police-report
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I don't know which of these propositions is more depressing. That the fate of America rests squarely on Crazy Chainsaw's shoulders, that it all hinges on the 9/11 conspiracy theories, or that Jerome Corsi is the arch-nemesis.
It's the danger of Insane Conspiracy theories, spoon feed to Insane Extremists in this very country with some of them being in Law enforcement.
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I don't know which of these propositions is more depressing. That the fate of America rests squarely on Crazy Chainsaw's shoulders, that it all hinges on the 9/11 conspiracy theories, or that Jerome Corsi is the arch-nemesis.
There is a Sheriff's Deputy here Locally who thinks Antifa Storm the Capitol and that it was Nancy Pelosi's Fault I kid you not.
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Yes I wonder why Fox News the Right Wing Site wouldn't just love to have it known, that they were lying, about a current President, lies told by a man who
Thought G.W.B. The Former Republican president , had the United States Navy fire a Cruise Missle into the Pentagon Naval Annex, on 9/11/2001, (Killing Navy Personal). I am absolutely sure they would be fine with their finding out Corsi was also a Racist anti Semite.
They also would have loved Finding out that it was RTV Mosow that called me up and asked me to talk to Corsi and that WNDs Cover Story,
That they Rejected Corsi Story was a scam in fact Corsi was debunked by me,
and I sent Fox News the Emails that proved it.
Not only did WND plan on Publishing Corsi's articles they funded the Research for his 9/11 truther 500 page Book, he promised to send me a copy of For Christmas 2008!

I really wonder why they Wanted to keep that secret, not let that be openly Known?
No Not a Reason for the Constitutionalist Militias to target me at all, not like Birtherism was a cash cow for Fox News, and WND, and helped promote an Incompetent Reality TV Star to the Presidency of the United States.
Dude, get a grip. Why would you think Fox would even care? You're not a thought leader of anything as far as I know. You're not even what most people would call an influencer. Fox is making a decision based on advertising revenue. They're not going to be concerned about the input from some rando, no matter how well he did his research. Fox programing is based on what Fox News Corp leadership thinks will bring a certain set of eyeballs to their programing.
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There is no question that many police officers are Trump supporters. That can't be disputed. Police have always tended toward the conservative and far-right view point. At least 31 police officers are being investigated for their participation in the insurrection. My husband's eldest brother was a CA policeman, is definitely a conservative, and he said fellow officers' racism and Trump support was the norm where he worked.
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Following the riot, Insider spoke with three experts on policing. They said they weren't surprised to learn that off-duty officers were involved in the storming of the Capitol.

They said the police always had ties to far-right groups, with the Capitol riot merely exposing them.

They also said Americans had a right to be concerned about some officers becoming radicalized but added steps could be taken to ensure that extremists don't continue to infiltrate police departments.
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Elliott Currie, a criminology professor at the University of California at Irvine, said "it's always surprising when you see people who were supposed to be defending the Constitution .... violating that in this very stark way."

He said, however, that "we have a long history of that kind of behavior both by police and former police" — a point both Kenney and Nolan agreed on.

"This is nothing new," Nolan said. "Law-enforcement officers have a history of being associated with right-wing extremists, white supremacists, and right-wing militia groups. That goes back decades."

"In fact, in the early history of policing in the United States, there were strong associations with organizations like the Ku Klux Klan."
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Currie said he thought "the Trump era has probably" fueled police politicization, because Trump's apparent support for far-right movements gave officers with these political ideologies a sense of "impunity."

"I think we sometimes underestimate just how much it matters that people in the highest levels of authority are basically telling you it's OK, it's OK to do stuff you thought you weren't supposed to do," Currie said.
https://www.businessinsider.com/capi...g-issue-2021-1
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Dude, get a grip. Why would you think Fox would even care? You're not a thought leader of anything as far as I know. You're not even what most people would call an influencer. Fox is making a decision based on advertising revenue. They're not going to be concerned about the input from some rando, no matter how well he did his research. Fox programing is based on what Fox News Corp leadership thinks will bring a certain set of eyeballs to their programing.
Yes but I had Corsi's own Emails proving he, Hannity and World Net Daily were lying to everyone.
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There is no question that many police officers are Trump supporters. That can't be disputed. Police have always tended toward the conservative and far-right view point. At least 31 police officers are being investigated for their participation in the insurrection. My husband's eldest brother was a CA policeman, is definitely a conservative, and he said fellow officers' racism and Trump support was the norm where he worked.





https://www.businessinsider.com/capi...g-issue-2021-1
The FBI warned that police organizations were being infiltrated by White Supremacist in 2003.
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The FBI warned that police organizations were being infiltrated by White Supremacist in 2003.
But nobody listened to them because you didn't speak up?
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But nobody listened to them because you didn't speak up?
Many people spoke up in that time but they were so focused of The War on Terrorism that they didn't do much against home grown Terrorists.
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i'm having a bit of trouble understanding the "Chainsaw" part of your username.
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Yes but I had Corsi's own Emails proving he, Hannity and World Net Daily were lying to everyone.
In more breaking news: Trump is a narcissist.
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The Militia groups are linked to law enforcement.
Here's one link, anyway:
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A data leak of membership records from the Oath Keepers...WNYC/Gothamist was able to identify dozens of names that appeared to match those of current and former police, court, and corrections officers in New York City and other jurisdictions, including Nassau County on Long Island, and Dutchess and Greene Counties in upstate New York...Three public officials listed on the logs have told the news outlet that they had previously signed up to be members but are no longer active with the organization.

The two active [New York City Police Department] members have been identified as a sergeant with the NYPD's Firearms and Tactics Section and a Staten Island officer assigned to the department's Strategic Response Group, which is often deployed to mitigate protest efforts. Newsweek link
Stewart Rhodes is the reported founder of the Oath Keepers -- supposedly formed in the wake of the election of Barack Obama to President in 2008 -- and Rhodes has claimed that the Oath Keepers have "successfully recruited tens of thousands of present and former law enforcement officials and military veterans." It is very concerning. Let's not ignore the message because we may have a problem with the messenger.
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If the situation is as dire as you say, why are you telling us? It's not like the forum or its members are very influential. Shouldn't you be busy bending the ear of the authorities?
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
If the situation is as dire as you say, why are you telling us? It's not like the forum or its members are very influential. Shouldn't you be busy bending the ear of the authorities?
Shouldn't you be busy admitting that there is a link between a lot of police and
the extreme right wing?
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Yes but I had Corsi's own Emails proving he, Hannity and World Net Daily were lying to everyone.
Oh, you're adorable. You think reality and truth have anything to do with this.
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In more breaking news: Trump is a narcissist.
ņnd a Racist.
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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
Here's one link, anyway:


Stewart Rhodes is the reported founder of the Oath Keepers -- supposedly formed in the wake of the election of Barack Obama to President in 2008 -- and Rhodes has claimed that the Oath Keepers have "successfully recruited tens of thousands of present and former law enforcement officials and military veterans." It is very concerning. Let's not ignore the message because we may have a problem with the messenger.
Stewart is a Ron Paul's Waco Whacko, a Constitutionalist Oklahoma Bombing Conspiracy theorist. Corsi is also a Constitutionalist crazy.

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