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28th May 2012, 05:28 PM | #121 |
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It looks like Bill is crunching numbers again
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Funny thing...the usual way is for a fraud artist to get money directly from the marks - but they wouldn't support his $75,000 scam. Therefore - the TV shows must be promising $$$ or that is what he is hoping for. Does that make the TV shows the frauds and the watchers the marks?
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If the TV shows' producers know its all a scam and sell it as true or possibly true, then yes, they are indeed part of the scheme.
Snake oil salesmen/women. Seems they found a home at the History Channel. |
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Details....details...pesky little details...
I calculate the probability at approximately 100%....that Dfoot's "recreation" of Patty......"D-sucks". Anyone else wanna give it a try??......and fail...miserably, laughably...[/quote] and more pointless doodles with numbers on.that prove nothing. |
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Professor Jurgen Konczak did an experiment with the Patterson film and he has found that it's not possible for a normal human to replicate the walk seen in the film.
Philip Morris couldn't properly recreate the "suit", even with today's vastly superior materials. The materials required to replicate some of Patty's features with a suit didn't even exist in the 60's. Bill Munns demonstrated how Patty's anatomical features are impossible for a human to have and even more so with a suit on. Could the PGF have been hoaxed? I think so, but not with a human wearing a suit. The evidence is there, we just need to open our eyes to it. |
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If anything the monkey has got me
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One facet of pseudoscience is that however solidly something is debunked, IT NEVER GOES AWAY. Not only is this one debunked, but it's EASILY debunked. Even Jeff Meldrum has conceded this ON TV.
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He was mistaken. The walk has been replicated on video by a man in a heavy ape suit, while Meldrum looks on gape-mouthed and incredulous. At the end of the video segment, Meldrum pretends it never happened.
Then Morris is either an idiot or he wasn't trying to "recreate" the Patty suit. The full-body ape-man suits in Beneath the Planet of the Apes and 2001: A Space Odyssey, both produced in the same period as the PGF, show that your assumptions are mistaken. No he hasn't. You first. |
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Maybe it's the walk?
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With your bigfoot knowledge you must know that Patterson heavily modified the suit.
This isn't the BFF and you're not dealing with a bunch of wide-eyed rubes, like the ones you're used to. |
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So what? Either Morris is lying about supplying the original suit, or Patterson modified whatever suit(s) he did supply.
Surely you're not suggesting, OS, that such suits cannot be made... today or at any time in the past. We have muscled ape-suits as far back as the 1930s for the MGM Tarzan films, and certainly in the 60s the Planet of the Apes movies and 2001 full-body ape-suits show that convincing ape-man costumes were being produced. I feel like it's 2009 all over again. We've been over this stuff ad nauseam in the hundreds of pages of PGF threads. |
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That's one of the many things BobH has claimed. BobH also claimed Roger Patterson filmed him while on a horse while in the actual film Roger Patterson is seen running to get closer to the creature.
I haven't seen any costumes close to Patty. Or any costume that could show the outlines of muscles and bones. |
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So? Bob H could be lying or mistaken. And...?
Then you're not doing the necessary research. Try the following films: Tarzan and His Mate (1934) 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1968) King Kong (1976) Greystoke (1983) Gorillas in the Mist (1987) George of the Jungle (1994?) Mighty Joe Young (1997) All of the above films have various levels of convincing muscled ape suits. You're out of your depth here, OS. ETA: I forgot: Trading Places (1983) Congo (1995) Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1970?) |
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Nor have you or your pal, Old Hickory looked at the past Threads on this Forum.
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" Nor have you or your pal, Old Hickory looked at the past Threads on this Forum" Pal? It is acceptable to question evidence...if you watched the video "pal" the man did issue a challenge. Possibly you are up to the challenge with video instead of attempting to beat people down with your posts. You claim to be a skeptic. Be a knowledgeable hands on skeptic and prove the man wrong. |
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By observing the film. But I guess you can watch it for yourself and decide if he was running or sitting on a horse. According to the original story, the horses became afraid (especially Roger's) so he slid off the horse and ran across the creek to get closer to Patty (as seen in the film). It doesn't match BobH's story. |
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No one is beating you down.. certainly not me. Go back on the threads and you will see this has all been done before. Please do some research on the JREF before you start posting things and pictures that have already been covered.
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OS, tube is right:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=BTL7sR2E8p4#! from 29:00 This has already been posted several times both here and on the bff. Don't you think you should lurk a little more and post a little less ? |
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I've seen the documentary twice. The subject couldn't replicate every aspect of the walk.
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This has all been discussed before. Do you people have something new to add to the topic ?
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