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3rd February 2017, 10:52 AM | #441 |
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Gee, that sounds like something that would sound right in place in Germany or Italy or Russia in the 1930's.....
I am now convinced you are not even a sincere conservative. You are somebody who has drunk the Trump Kool Aid,probably because you find him "Anti Establishment and Edgy "and your only political belief is Donald J. Trump. If Trump were to do a 180, and start spouting liberal dogma,you would swing right along with him. |
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The only arrests mentioned in the article are those of attackers who attacked two Berkeley College Republicans. It is those attackers the story says are not affiliated with the University. How many attackers? We don't know. It could be as few as two, which would leave a sizeable number of possible university-affiliated attackers to produce the $100,000 in property damage to the University and a much larger amount of monetary damage throughout the city. Again, we don't know the affiliation of other attackers or Black Blocs. Yet, based on that article, you concluded the $100,000 in damage to the University was caused by people not affiliated with the University. Moreover, you concluded that at least most of the agitators came from the outside and started riots. You do this by equating the victim status of the University with the victim status of the College Republicans and therefore conclude that both sets of attackers and rabble-rousers must be the same group of people. That is quite a bit of strained logic.
The fact is, we have absolutely no idea if the monetary damage was caused by university-affiliated knuckleheads or not. Yet you concluded otherwise. Puppycow, I went to the doctor and told him it hurts when I lift my arm. He said, "Don't do that." |
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Here he is telling an audience why he postponed his planned speech about pizzagate.
It's rather stunning that a lying conspiracy theorist such as Milo is held in such high esteem. Welcome to Trump alt-reality folks. (Dangit, I was trumped by Resume) |
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3rd February 2017, 10:55 AM | #444 |
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Everyone can look at the comments under the linked facebook post, where sources are provided as well as sources establishing a prior pattern where Milo outs students during his speeches.
The real question is though, why should anyone consider liberals allies? Leftists such as anarchists will take action to stop Milo outing undocumented students, successfully since his speech was cancelled because of it. Liberals on the other hand are the ones who stand there whining about Milo's freedom to out students being suppressed by those evil anarchists in black bloc outfit. "I may not agree with outing undocumented people, but I'll defend your right to do so." "I may not agree with genocide, but I'll defend your right to organize it". "I may not agree with telling the SS officer where the local Jews are hiding, but I'll defend your right to tell him." ... aka why everyone hates liberals. |
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Yeah, although I wanted it to work between YT tags.
At least using "?t=" doesn't barf, but it also doesn't start it at the right place. |
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3rd February 2017, 10:57 AM | #446 |
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Milo and the Rioters are both world class jerks,and deserve each other.
I don't get why so many people here who despise Trump here...and put me at the head of the line as a Trump Despiser...don't get that the crap like what happened in Berkeley HELPS Trump. |
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Why does Milo deserve the rioters? Milo has never been violent. As far as I know, he's never hurt anybody except perhaps for witty bitty feelings. Furthermore, Milo stands ready to debate anybody anytime about his views and the claims he has made. He allows antagonistic questions at his talks and responds in good faith (albeit with some snark).
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3rd February 2017, 11:14 AM | #457 |
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I'll address it right now: I'm not anti-speech. I often disagree with Milo but I agree with him on a few points. Regardless, he's definitely a troll, but that doesn't mean that what he has to say isn't worth listening to, and I disagree with those who try to use intimidation and violence to silence him. Good or bad, let him talk and challenge what he says with more free speech. Fight ignorance with knowledge.
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No, I don't care enough about this person to have a belief in his beliefs. Actually, he seems like a younger, gayer version of Ann Coulter, and as such, a rabble-rouser. He references things like pizzagate to be provocative and pimp to a certain audience. It's not as if this is something new.
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Good for you.
I don't think logger was claiming that every single individual on the left is against free speech. He merely said that the left has a problem with free speech these days - a comment that is difficult to dispute.
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How many undocumented people getting deported or forced to stop their education is letting Milo organize these events worth to you? 1? 10? 100?
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When the NYPD starting arresting the agitators Thursday night outside NYU, one woman screamed at the police that they should be protecting the protestors from the Nazi inside the building -- Gavin McInnes, by the way, is a libertarian and a comedian who says things which aren't politically correct. Watch the video of this insane woman in an hysterical frenzy: Here (Warning: the woman has a foul mouth and claims to be a professor) |
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I know why you consider Milo a total jerk. It's because he says things you disagree with but can't refute. He is a persuasive and effective advocate for policies that you don't like. No doubt I am considered a total jerk by many here for the same reason. But I don't see why he deserves having his speech shut down and having his physical safety threatened. Do you think I do? Are you prepared to dox me and come to my house to give me what I deserve?
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Any amount I guess. Not sure we should start figuring out a value base before free speech is allowed. If it is legal, let him speak it. If not, have him prosecuted for the speech that breaks any given law. If individuals feel they were wronged in some way that is libel, let them sue.
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