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3rd February 2017, 12:16 PM | #486 |
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Why should anyone care whether you think he's a ****? Do you find yourself so self-important that you think everything revolves around your random personal impressions of peoples' characters?
You say it's "too bad the event was cancelled" so let me ask you the same question: how many undocumented people exactly would you have preferred to see get into trouble? 1? 10? 100? How far does it go exactly? 60 million? Historically liberals have chosen the left option there, one would have expected them to have learned something from history, but alas... |
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Wow, another thrilling picture from the facebooks!
When did Godwin's Law get rescinded anyway, because it appears that your bible for got to "arguments" about anything is this one: Good job, good effort |
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Several thoughts about this: first, how many have actually been deported? Second, what's wrong with deporting those here (or there) illegally? Third, I consider freedom of expression, both the kind respected by the government and the kind respected by my peers, to be the foremost of our rights, so it'll take more than that for me to consider curtailing it.
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That's kind of tough; if they're here illegally, that's a risk they take. I've seen friends and co-workers deported and it's very sad, but they knew it could happen. I hope as a country we can find a solution, but we currently have no amnesty or moratorium. If the law sucks, we need to change it, not pretend it doesn't exist.
ETA: And all this assuming Milo even had this information, or that it would have any consequence. |
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I don't think Coulter is the least bit amusing. I think she is a troll who is serving up red meat. I have only seen bits of Milo but what I have makes me think he is a turd. Yes, Stewart and Colbert are comics and not pundits in that they don't write deep books like say Christopher Hitchens who I find unmatched in erudition even though I strongly disagreed with him on Iraq.
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Oh there's no question Coulter is a troll, as is Yiannopoulos, I just wish they'd admit they're doing schtick, even if they believe in some of it.
I like Hitchen's prose and find him more serious than these people, but he served up some turds too, and I don't just mean Iraq. |
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That all depends. For example, I was very close to some folks who were "repatriated" but I wouldn't have hidden them in my basement. I have a family to consider, and they wouldn't have asked anyway.
Now, if I were hiding them from certain death a la Anne Frank, that might be different. It's all good to advocate a haughty principled stance, quite another to act on it responsibly. |
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I prefer not to self-identify however I'll chime in: I agree wholeheartedly.
If it's true that Milo was intending to get students deported, as Caveman claims (though fails to adequately support), rather than violently shut down the event, people could be warned as they approach the venue. |
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Yes on all of it. I'm a 100 percent with Hitch on religion. He attacked Kissinger pretty hard and I thought he was over the top on his attacks on the Clintons and a weird defense of George W. But the man could write and he made me think. His books on Thomas Jefferson and Tom Paine were excellent.
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I'll count you as in favour of handing them over? Would it be correct to state you arrive at this through liberalism? I'm going with liberalism here because of legalistic nationalism combined with approaching social & political questions by base emotional appeals ("it's very sad" or "Milo is a ****").
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Do you have reason to believe that deportation would've been the consequence of this event? Otherwise this is a hypothetical at best, and an attempt at shaming me at worst.
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Yeah, it shows how dishonest Stewart and Colbert are. Sure, they can be very funny (or at least Stewart can), but they are clearly very political people who use their celebrity status and platform to advocate for progressive policies. Both of them would certainly pass up a good joke (or make a bad one) for the "cause."
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Oddly, I agree both with deporting them and giving them a path (in the sense that both options have good arguments and reasons in their favour). But I find your justification weird. I agree with the path idea because it's a good way to help these people become productive citizens rather than potentially break families apart and costing the state a bunch of money and workers in the process. Complacency by the state is no excuse.
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What "huh?"? You said that you think others dislike you because they can't refute your points. I'm pointing out the hubris of that statement. Maybe they dislike you because of your attitude, and absolutely can refute your points, but you can't see it because you can't refute their points and can't see through your bias, leading you to pretend like it's the other way around. Just maybe.
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